Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-20 Thread Lyn Norstad 
I prefer Wireman #531.

 

From thewireman.com:

 

Tough coat ‘Silky’ with a tough outer jacket (nominal OD, 0.120″ including 
0.020″ jacket).

Weight per ft is .03 ounces.

VF=.95

 

Designed for through-the-trees, sea coast, acid rain or other inclement 
atmospheric conditions. Our most rugged, longest-lived, stranded antenna wire 
for any purpose. Jacket has minimal effect on performance – less than that of a 
year’s accumulation of oxidation product on bare wire, with less noise. Break 
strength 400 lbs. Price is per foot.

 

Specifications Wire Type 19x stranded copper-clad steel (40%) Wire Gauge 14 AWG 
Jacket High density, low-gloss polyethylene Break Strength 400 lbs

 

Our number one seller in antenna wire for permanent installations.

 

https://thewireman.com/product/antenna-wire-13-awg-copper-clad-steel-stranded-jacketed/

 

73

Lyn, W0LEN

 

 

 

 

 

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I third the selection of “The Wireman” products.  Excellent quality.  I use the 
26-ga myself. 

 

72,

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Grid: FN20is

 

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 20:03, Ronnie Hull  wrote:

> 

> What Wayne said! That Silky 26 g is the way to go. Easy to break though so 
> don’t put the John Wayne on it!

> Ron W5SUM 

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

>> 

>> 26 AWG "Silky" from the Wireman.

>> 

>> Wayne

>> 

>> 

>>>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt  wrote:

>>> 

>>> Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne 
>>> style end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a 
>>> smaller wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and Ground 
>>> Plane?  Rugged, straightens nice etc.?

>>> 

>>> Burt

>>> 

>>> K4SRQ

>>> Sarasota

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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-20 Thread Julia Tuttle 
They're not very similar, they're identical! There's literally a website
address on the SOTAbeams winder I got from DX Engineering that goes to a
place that sells kite winders.

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 15:19 Dennis Moore  wrote:

> Very similar to kite string winders available on Amazon.
>
> 73, Dennis NJ6G
>
> On 12/20/2021 09:28, Walter Underwood wrote:
> > I was using the Coghlan’s laundy reels, but it took a long time to wind
> up the wire, they would bind (not smooth turning), and would pop open when
> dropped.
> >
> > Now I use the Midi Winders from SOTAbeams. Wind the wire on in a
> figue-8, no kinks and quck to get on and off. SOTAbeams makes three sizes.
> The Midi Winders are the same length as my KX3.
> >
> > https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/
> >
> > wunder
> > K6WRU
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-20 Thread Dennis Moore 

Very similar to kite string winders available on Amazon.

73, Dennis NJ6G

On 12/20/2021 09:28, Walter Underwood wrote:

I was using the Coghlan’s laundy reels, but it took a long time to wind up the 
wire, they would bind (not smooth turning), and would pop open when dropped.

Now I use the Midi Winders from SOTAbeams. Wind the wire on in a figue-8, no 
kinks and quck to get on and off. SOTAbeams makes three sizes. The Midi Winders 
are the same length as my KX3.

https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/

wunder
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-20 Thread Walter Underwood 
I was using the Coghlan’s laundy reels, but it took a long time to wind up the 
wire, they would bind (not smooth turning), and would pop open when dropped. 

Now I use the Midi Winders from SOTAbeams. Wind the wire on in a figue-8, no 
kinks and quck to get on and off. SOTAbeams makes three sizes. The Midi Winders 
are the same length as my KX3.

https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/midi-winders/

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Dec 20, 2021, at 6:48 AM, email  wrote:
> 
> I have been using a couple of "things"...
> 
> First see: 
> https://www.amazon.com/Coghlans-Camp-Laundry-Reel-21-Foot/dp/B001QBZM4Q/ref=sr_1_29?crid=3GJ5K4I006OGB=camping+clothesline=1640011049=camping+clothesline%2Caps%2C109=8-29
>  as a wire winder.
> 
> I use 24ga Teflon wire.  The copper strands are silver plated, with a banana 
> plug attached.  I have been using the winder + Teflon wire for many years.  
> Works great.
> 
> For my 135' ladderline fed dipole, I use 24ga silver plated wire that is (I 
> think) nylon coated.  I picked it out of the "junk box" (trash) at work YEARS 
> ago.  The closest replacement would be Teflon wire.  The silver plating makes 
> for GREAT conduction.
> 
> Otherwise, I would use Wireman stealth wire either 26ga or 18ga.
> 
> 73, steve WB3LGC
> 
> On 12/19/21 6:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt wrote:
>> Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne style 
>> end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a smaller 
>> wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and Ground Plane?  
>> Rugged, straightens nice etc.?
>> 
>> Burt
>> 
>> K4SRQ
>> Sarasota
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-20 Thread Gwen Patton 
I'm partial to the Kev-Flex kevlar core wire sold by Dave Cripe Nm0s. It's
small in diameter, wicked strong, and the PVC jacket is slick as snot on a
doorknob.  I but mine from him on eBay. He usually sells it in 75 foot
lengths, but if you want a longer piece, just drop a note in the order and
he'll leave multiple lengths in one piece.

https://qrper.com/tag/dave-cripe-nm0s/

73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Sun, Dec 19, 2021, 6:54 PM K4SRQ-Burt  wrote:

> Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne
> style end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a
> smaller wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and
> Ground Plane?  Rugged, straightens nice etc.?
>
> Burt
>
> K4SRQ
> Sarasota
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-20 Thread email 

I have been using a couple of "things"...

First see: 
https://www.amazon.com/Coghlans-Camp-Laundry-Reel-21-Foot/dp/B001QBZM4Q/ref=sr_1_29?crid=3GJ5K4I006OGB=camping+clothesline=1640011049=camping+clothesline%2Caps%2C109=8-29 
as a wire winder.


I use 24ga Teflon wire.  The copper strands are silver plated, with a 
banana plug attached.  I have been using the winder + Teflon wire for 
many years.  Works great.


For my 135' ladderline fed dipole, I use 24ga silver plated wire that is 
(I think) nylon coated.  I picked it out of the "junk box" (trash) at 
work YEARS ago.  The closest replacement would be Teflon wire.  The 
silver plating makes for GREAT conduction.


Otherwise, I would use Wireman stealth wire either 26ga or 18ga.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 12/19/21 6:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt wrote:
Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne 
style end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a 
smaller wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and 
Ground Plane?  Rugged, straightens nice etc.?


Burt

K4SRQ
Sarasota

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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-20 Thread Ed Cole 

Well Rich,

Guess you are a late comer.

I got my ham license at age 14 and I am now 77.  I've been married 18 
years.  She was married to ham before me, so had been "broke-in" before 
getting "saddled" with me (western sayin).  That was the good news and 
the bad news.


When she arrived north to live with me, I already had a 50-foot tower up 
and 8-foot dish inside a "golfball" radome.  She wanted a nicer home but 
knew there were two requirements: room for my 13 sled dogs and room for 
my antennas (and ham shack).  Now I have four towers and a 16-foot dish. 
 All the sled dogs have passed onto "dog heaven" and only have one 
house dog which is hers.


She knows the money goes into ham stuff and not beers at the local pub 
(plus skirt chasing).


And she is even the NA sales rep for Dubus Magazine (which she gets a 
little 'pin' money from).  Dubus is published in Germany and is VHF/mw 
ham technical magazine + European VHF activity news.  She even has 
accompanied me to ham conferences.


She is not a ham.  But she is a good one and I'm keeping her!

73, Ed - KL7UW, ex-AL7EB, ex-K8MWA

From: Rich WC3T 
To: Wayne Burdick 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High bands open
Message-ID: 
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I?ve been married for 38 years.
I?ve been a ham since 2015.
Gotta pick my battles.

72,
Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread Walter Underwood 
Beat me to it. This is the 26 AWG. Breaking strength is 25 pounds, though I’ve 
never broken it.

https://thewireman.com/product/antenna-wire-26-awg-copper-clad-steel-stranded-jacketed/
 


For my 53 foot wire, I use the 18 AWG, also light, but with a breaking strength 
of 125 pounds.

https://thewireman.com/product/antenna-wire-18-awg-copper-clad-steel-stranded-jacketed/
 


wunder
K6WRU
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CM87wj
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> On Dec 19, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> 26 AWG "Silky" from the Wireman.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne style 
>> end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a smaller 
>> wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and Ground Plane?  
>> Rugged, straightens nice etc.?
>> 
>> Burt
>> 
>> K4SRQ
>> Sarasota
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread Bill Frantz 
I like the Wireman silky wire too 
. 
I had a 20M two wire beam made from the stuff that survived a 
small ice storm. (I've now replaced it with the QRO version, #14 wire.)


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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread D Remy 
The 24ga speaker wire is tougher, inexpensive and available locally.  Postage 
for long distance orders would be more than the wire itself.

I’m just sayin’浪

David, NS4V


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> On Dec 19, 2021, at 20:24, Rich WC3T  wrote:
> 
> I third the selection of “The Wireman” products.  Excellent quality.  I use 
> the 26-ga myself. 
> 
> 72,
> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737  
> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL PIO
> Grid: FN20is
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 20:03, Ronnie Hull  wrote:
>> 
>> What Wayne said! That Silky 26 g is the way to go. Easy to break though so 
>> don’t put the John Wayne on it!
>> Ron W5SUM 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 19, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 26 AWG "Silky" from the Wireman.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt  wrote:
 
 Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne 
 style end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a 
 smaller wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and Ground 
 Plane?  Rugged, straightens nice etc.?
 
 Burt
 
 K4SRQ
 Sarasota
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread Rich WC3T 
I third the selection of “The Wireman” products.  Excellent quality.  I use the 
26-ga myself. 

72,
Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737  
Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL PIO
Grid: FN20is

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 20:03, Ronnie Hull  wrote:
> 
> What Wayne said! That Silky 26 g is the way to go. Easy to break though so 
> don’t put the John Wayne on it!
> Ron W5SUM 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> 26 AWG "Silky" from the Wireman.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne 
>>> style end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a 
>>> smaller wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and Ground 
>>> Plane?  Rugged, straightens nice etc.?
>>> 
>>> Burt
>>> 
>>> K4SRQ
>>> Sarasota
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread Ronnie Hull 
What Wayne said! That Silky 26 g is the way to go. Easy to break though so 
don’t put the John Wayne on it!
Ron W5SUM 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> 26 AWG "Silky" from the Wireman.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne style 
>> end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a smaller 
>> wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and Ground Plane?  
>> Rugged, straightens nice etc.?
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread Wayne Burdick 
26 AWG "Silky" from the Wireman.

Wayne


> On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt  wrote:
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> Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne style 
> end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a smaller 
> wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and Ground Plane?  
> Rugged, straightens nice etc.?
> 
> Burt
> 
> K4SRQ
> Sarasota
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread jerry 

Good stuff.  That's what they wire aircraft with.

  - Jerry KF6VB


On 2021-12-19 16:01, Bryan wrote:

I have had very good luck with this stranded Tefzel in 22 AWG:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/262473900779

It is super slick.  I typically have it on a winder with a strap or
hair tie to keep it together.

72 de Bryan, k0emt

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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread David Rutledge via Elecraft 
Stranded 26 awg PFTE or other slick coated wire has worked very well for both 
antennas & ground plane(s). I bought a military surplus spool of PFTE years ago 
off Ebay. Great stuff. 
73,DavidAL5M


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On Sunday, December 19, 2021, 5:52 PM, K4SRQ-Burt  wrote:

Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne 
style end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a 
smaller wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and 
Ground Plane?  Rugged, straightens nice etc.?

Burt

K4SRQ
Sarasota

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Re: [Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread Bryan 
I have had very good luck with this stranded Tefzel in 22 AWG: 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/262473900779 
It is super slick.  I typically have it on a winder with a strap or hair tie to 
keep it together.

72 de Bryan, k0emt

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[Elecraft] Best Portable Wire

2021-12-19 Thread K4SRQ-Burt 
Ok, quick question for all you portable geeks.  I am running the Wayne 
style end fed random wire thrown over a tree.  Using AWG 14 but need a 
smaller wire.  Anyone have a favorite wire you use for the Ant and 
Ground Plane?  Rugged, straightens nice etc.?


Burt

K4SRQ
Sarasota

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