Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Please keep in mind that the RX IN/Out solution is after the K3/K3S Low 
pass Filters.  So for instance if you want to monitor 15 meters while 
listening to 40 meters, the signals will be greatly attenuated.


There will be no attenuation if you are listening to a band below the 
frequency the K3 is tuned to.


There are compromises to every solution - rule of life as well as radios.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/13/2018 11:39 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:

Actually, Don, that is not the case. Depending on your software, you can
use the SDRplay as a panadapter using either IF or RF (RX Ant In/Out). I
use my SDRplay both ways. The software has to be told which connection you
are using in order to label frequencies correctly in the display, but they
both work and produce similar displays.

Likewise, you can use the SDRplay as a second (or third) receiver using
either feed method. Again, the SDR software has to know which connection
you are using in order to know what frequency to demodulate the audio from,
but there is software that will work either way.

One caveat with using an SDR using a separate RX antenna: you may need some
way to isolate the SDR from the antenna while you are transmitting, such as
an external TX/RX switch, or some kind of receiver protection circuit;
otherwise, the voltages induced on the receive antenna by your nearby
transmitted signal may be high enough to damage the SDR. That is not an
issue using either the RX Ant In/Out loop or the IF output from the K3; the
RX Ant loop is behind the K3's TX/RX switch (the isolation is not perfect,
but it is good enough to protect the SDR), and the IF Out level during
transmit is also too low to be a problem.

73,
Rich VE3KI


W3FPR wrote:

Your subject line indicates that you are using SDRPlay as a panadapter,
and in that case, you would want to connect it to the K3 IF OUT and tune
it to the K3 1st IF of 8.215 MHz.  The display will show you what is in
the K3 IF.

If instead you are using it as a sub-receiver, you would connect it to
the K3 RX IN and OUT, or use a separate RX antenna on SDRplay.
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-13 Thread Richard Ferch
Actually, Don, that is not the case. Depending on your software, you can
use the SDRplay as a panadapter using either IF or RF (RX Ant In/Out). I
use my SDRplay both ways. The software has to be told which connection you
are using in order to label frequencies correctly in the display, but they
both work and produce similar displays.

Likewise, you can use the SDRplay as a second (or third) receiver using
either feed method. Again, the SDR software has to know which connection
you are using in order to know what frequency to demodulate the audio from,
but there is software that will work either way.

One caveat with using an SDR using a separate RX antenna: you may need some
way to isolate the SDR from the antenna while you are transmitting, such as
an external TX/RX switch, or some kind of receiver protection circuit;
otherwise, the voltages induced on the receive antenna by your nearby
transmitted signal may be high enough to damage the SDR. That is not an
issue using either the RX Ant In/Out loop or the IF output from the K3; the
RX Ant loop is behind the K3's TX/RX switch (the isolation is not perfect,
but it is good enough to protect the SDR), and the IF Out level during
transmit is also too low to be a problem.

73,
Rich VE3KI


W3FPR wrote:

Your subject line indicates that you are using SDRPlay as a panadapter,
and in that case, you would want to connect it to the K3 IF OUT and tune
it to the K3 1st IF of 8.215 MHz.  The display will show you what is in
the K3 IF.

If instead you are using it as a sub-receiver, you would connect it to
the K3 RX IN and OUT, or use a separate RX antenna on SDRplay.
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Drew,

Your subject line indicates that you are using SDRPlay as a panadapter, 
and in that case, you would want to connect it to the K3 IF OUT and tune 
it to the K3 1st IF of 8.215 MHz.  The display will show you what is in 
the K3 IF.


If instead you are using it as a sub-receiver, you would connect it to 
the K3 RX IN and OUT, or use a separate RX antenna on SDRplay.


Two entirely different uses of SDRplay.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/13/2018 5:41 PM, Drew AF2Z wrote:
I just got a RSP1A and am missing something here: if I connect my 
receive antenna to the K3 RX In, then connect the K3 RX Out to the SDR, 
what is the use of the tee?



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-13 Thread Drew AF2Z

I figured it out...

I am using a separate receive only antenna: just connect it to RX IN, 
then connect the SDR to RX OUT; no tee needed.


The tee version is for routing the K3 ANT1 and ANT2 (tx/rx antennas) to 
the SDR.


73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 11/13/18 17:52, r...@eversoles.com wrote:

Allow other tools to look at RX out ?

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Drew AF2Z
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

I just got a RSP1A and am missing something here: if I connect my receive
antenna to the K3 RX In, then connect the K3 RX Out to the SDR, what is the
use of the tee?

73,
Drew
AF2Z




On 11/08/18 10:19, John Simmons wrote:

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output
(must activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna
of the RSP1. You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3.
Purists use an RF splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video
that shows the results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE

If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use
HDSDR software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this
email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to
jasimm...@pinewooddata.com


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email
list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to
pu...@af2z.net



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message
delivered to n6...@arrl.net




__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-13 Thread rick
Allow other tools to look at RX out ?

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Drew AF2Z
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

I just got a RSP1A and am missing something here: if I connect my receive
antenna to the K3 RX In, then connect the K3 RX Out to the SDR, what is the
use of the tee?

73,
Drew
AF2Z




On 11/08/18 10:19, John Simmons wrote:
> Isaac,
> 
> I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output 
> (must activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna 
> of the RSP1. You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3.
> Purists use an RF splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video 
> that shows the results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE
> 
> If you need further help, let me know.
> 
> 73,
> -John NI0K
> TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use 
>> HDSDR software to start with.
>> Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?
>>
>> TIA
>> Isaac, 4Z1TL
>>
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>
>> __
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this 
>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to 
>> jasimm...@pinewooddata.com
> 
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> 
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email 
> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to 
> pu...@af2z.net
> 

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message
delivered to n6...@arrl.net

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-13 Thread Drew AF2Z
I just got a RSP1A and am missing something here: if I connect my 
receive antenna to the K3 RX In, then connect the K3 RX Out to the SDR, 
what is the use of the tee?


73,
Drew
AF2Z




On 11/08/18 10:19, John Simmons wrote:

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output 
(must activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna of 
the RSP1. You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3. 
Purists use an RF splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video that 
shows the results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE


If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use HDSDR
software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to pu...@af2z.net



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



I've used it both ways and found with the IF output signal to the SDR
that the sidebands were inverted.

Simple solution ... in HDSDR Options -> RF front-end frequency options
& Calibration, *check* "Mirror RF Spectrum in general", "Mirror RF
Spectrum for Tune >+ 30,000 KHz", "Operate CW in lower sideband (LSB)"
and "Swap CW and CWR for Omni-Rig"


73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-11-08 5:15 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
Yes and it gives you a much wider RF spectrum.  It is protected when you 
transmit thus no switching or muting is needed.  I've used it both ways 
and found with the IF output signal to the SDR that the sidebands were 
inverted.  Thus a LSB signal appears as above the carrier while a USB 
signal appears below the carrier. Also it makes for a nice 2nd receiver 
with good detected audio for most all modes.


There are many other software applications for the SDR receivers.   Most 
are FREE which is the better part while some get really sophisticated in 
their implementation and features.  As to how they interface with 
various logging applications, I don't have a clue.


Glad to be of assistance.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/8/2018 2:44 PM, Doug wrote:
Thanks for the idea. Works great and got me away from the problems 
using the IF out.


73 Doug N3QW


On 11/8/2018 10:53 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I used HDSDR software and a BNC T  and a couple of short coax jumpers 
from the RX ANT output back into the RX input.   Activate the feature 
from the front panel of the K3S.    The input impedance of the RSP-1 
SDR is well above 50 ohms and thus I didn't observe any loading or 
loss of the received signal.


As to software, HDSDR was my favorite and easy to setup and use. I 
added OmniRig to allow for full interface to the K3S.  This provides 
two way communications between the radio and computer. Thus any 
change on the radio is effected the same on the computer and any 
change on the computer is resolved on the radio.  Of course there is 
capability in the HDSDR software to have your choice of the radio 
following the computer or the computer following the radio or 
neither, thus both being independent.


An excellent and economical approach which I used several years and 
with different radios as well.   That is..until I purchased a P3 
to go with my K3S.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/8/2018 9:19 AM, John Simmons wrote:

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT 
output (must activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the 
antenna of the RSP1. You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into 
the K3. Purists use an RF splitter instead of a tee. I have a 
YouTube video that shows the results: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE


If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use 
HDSDR

software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Yes and it gives you a much wider RF spectrum.  It is protected when you 
transmit thus no switching or muting is needed.  I've used it both ways  
and found with the IF output signal to the SDR that the sidebands were 
inverted.  Thus a LSB signal appears as above the carrier while a USB 
signal appears below the carrier. Also it makes for a nice 2nd receiver 
with good detected audio for most all modes.


There are many other software applications for the SDR receivers.   Most 
are FREE which is the better part while some get really sophisticated in 
their implementation and features.  As to how they interface with 
various logging applications, I don't have a clue.


Glad to be of assistance.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/8/2018 2:44 PM, Doug wrote:
Thanks for the idea. Works great and got me away from the problems 
using the IF out.


73 Doug N3QW


On 11/8/2018 10:53 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I used HDSDR software and a BNC T  and a couple of short coax jumpers 
from the RX ANT output back into the RX input.   Activate the feature 
from the front panel of the K3S.    The input impedance of the RSP-1  
SDR is well above 50 ohms and thus I didn't observe any loading or 
loss of the received signal.


As to software, HDSDR was my favorite and easy to setup and use. I 
added OmniRig to allow for full interface to the K3S.  This provides 
two way communications between the radio and computer. Thus any 
change on the radio is effected the same on the computer and any 
change on the computer is resolved on the radio.  Of course there is 
capability in the HDSDR software to have your choice of the radio 
following the computer or the computer following the radio or 
neither, thus both being independent.


An excellent and economical approach which I used several years and 
with different radios as well.   That is..until I purchased a P3 
to go with my K3S.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/8/2018 9:19 AM, John Simmons wrote:

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT 
output (must activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the 
antenna of the RSP1. You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into 
the K3. Purists use an RF splitter instead of a tee. I have a 
YouTube video that shows the results: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE


If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use 
HDSDR

software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net




__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to dalspa...@comcast.net


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net



__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread Doug
Thanks for the idea. Works great and got me away from the problems using 
the IF out.


73 Doug N3QW


On 11/8/2018 10:53 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I used HDSDR software and a BNC T  and a couple of short coax jumpers 
from the RX ANT output back into the RX input.   Activate the feature 
from the front panel of the K3S.    The input impedance of the RSP-1  
SDR is well above 50 ohms and thus I didn't observe any loading or 
loss of the received signal.


As to software, HDSDR was my favorite and easy to setup and use. I 
added OmniRig to allow for full interface to the K3S.  This provides 
two way communications between the radio and computer. Thus any change 
on the radio is effected the same on the computer and any change on 
the computer is resolved on the radio.  Of course there is capability 
in the HDSDR software to have your choice of the radio following the 
computer or the computer following the radio or neither, thus both 
being independent.


An excellent and economical approach which I used several years and 
with different radios as well.   That is..until I purchased a P3 
to go with my K3S.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/8/2018 9:19 AM, John Simmons wrote:

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT 
output (must activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the 
antenna of the RSP1. You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into 
the K3. Purists use an RF splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube 
video that shows the results: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE


If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use 
HDSDR

software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net




__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to dalspa...@comcast.net


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread Ken K6MR
The RTL-SDR has a direct sampling mode that will do HF.  $30 is about as cheap 
as it gets.  Not as good as a real P3 but it does work.



Ken K6MR




From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Bob McGraw K4TAX 
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:14:30 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

If it will tune to the IF frequency of about 8.2 MHz.  From experience,
without an up conversion added, they won't tune that low.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/8/2018 9:57 AM, WW3S wrote:
> Can you use one of the less expensive sdr dongles in a similar way?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:19 AM, John Simmons  wrote:
>>
>> Isaac,
>>
>> I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output (must 
>> activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna of the RSP1. 
>> You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3. Purists use an RF 
>> splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video that shows the results: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE
>>
>> If you need further help, let me know.
>>
>> 73,
>> -John NI0K
>> TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use HDSDR
>>> software to start with.
>>> Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Isaac, 4Z1TL
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>
>>> __
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>>
>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>> Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com
>> __
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to w...@zoominternet.net
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net
>


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to k...@outlook.com
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
If it will tune to the IF frequency of about 8.2 MHz.  From experience, 
without an up conversion added, they won't tune that low.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/8/2018 9:57 AM, WW3S wrote:

Can you use one of the less expensive sdr dongles in a similar way?

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:19 AM, John Simmons  wrote:

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output (must 
activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna of the RSP1. 
You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3. Purists use an RF 
splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video that shows the results: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE

If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use HDSDR
software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to w...@zoominternet.net

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net




__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread John Simmons

I suppose, but I've not tried it. The cheapo dongles don't cover HF, though.

-J

WW3S wrote on 11/8/2018 9:57 AM:

Can you use one of the less expensive sdr dongles in a similar way?

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:19 AM, John Simmons  wrote:

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output (must 
activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna of the RSP1. 
You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3. Purists use an RF 
splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video that shows the results: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE

If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use HDSDR
software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to w...@zoominternet.net


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread WW3S
Can you use one of the less expensive sdr dongles in a similar way? 

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:19 AM, John Simmons  wrote:
> 
> Isaac,
> 
> I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output (must 
> activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna of the RSP1. 
> You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3. Purists use an RF 
> splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video that shows the results: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE
> 
> If you need further help, let me know.
> 
> 73,
> -John NI0K
> TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use HDSDR
>> software to start with.
>> Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?
>> 
>> TIA
>> Isaac, 4Z1TL
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>> 
>> __
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> 
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com
> 
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> 
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to w...@zoominternet.net

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I used HDSDR software and a BNC T  and a couple of short coax jumpers 
from the RX ANT output back into the RX input.   Activate the feature 
from the front panel of the K3S.    The input impedance of the RSP-1  
SDR is well above 50 ohms and thus I didn't observe any loading or loss 
of the received signal.


As to software, HDSDR was my favorite and easy to setup and use. I added 
OmniRig to allow for full interface to the K3S.  This provides two way 
communications between the radio and computer. Thus any change on the 
radio is effected the same on the computer and any change on the 
computer is resolved on the radio.  Of course there is capability in the 
HDSDR software to have your choice of the radio following the computer 
or the computer following the radio or neither, thus both being 
independent.


An excellent and economical approach which I used several years and with 
different radios as well.   That is..until I purchased a P3 to go 
with my K3S.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/8/2018 9:19 AM, John Simmons wrote:

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output 
(must activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna 
of the RSP1. You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3. 
Purists use an RF splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video 
that shows the results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE


If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use HDSDR
software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net




__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread John Simmons

Isaac,

I did exactly that, using the HDSDR software. I used the RX ANT output 
(must activate it from the front panel of the K3) to feed the antenna of 
the RSP1. You use a BNC tee to feed the antenna back into the K3. 
Purists use an RF splitter instead of a tee. I have a YouTube video that 
shows the results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusmkeLdfwE


If you need further help, let me know.

73,
-John NI0K
TL_Netvision wrote on 11/8/2018 8:22 AM:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use HDSDR
software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to jasimm...@pinewooddata.com


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com


Re: [Elecraft] K3 + SDRPlay's RSP1 as panadaptor

2018-11-08 Thread David Box
I would recommend that you use Win4K3Suite, really does a nice job of 
integrating the RSP and K3.


No relationship with Win4K3Suite, just a satisfied user.

de Dave K5MWR


On 11/8/2018 8:22 AM, TL_Netvision wrote:

Hello all,

I am considering using an RSP1 SDR with my K3. I will probably use HDSDR
software to start with.
Can someone point me in the right direction for the whole procedure?

TIA
Isaac, 4Z1TL


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to do...@suddenlink.net




__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com