David,
Yes, you need the 6kHz filter for ESSB. The 2.8kHz filter will strip it
down to 2.8kHz.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 1/29/2016 8:07 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:
Am I correct that you do not achieve 4.0 kHz ESSB (widest TX with the K3S)
without selecting the 6.0 kHz crystal filter for SSB TX? Just
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX
wrote:
>
> Receive BW on AM will go to 5.0 kHz and on SSB 4.0 kHz.
>
Unlike AM, receive bandwidth will never go to 4KHz in ssb. For some
unknown reason, the receive bandwdith in ssb is restricted to about
3300Hz. My
I'll look into this later today.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
On Feb 1, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Receive BW on AM will go to 5.0 kHz and on SSB 4.0 kHz.
>>
>
> Unlike AM, receive
Using the K3 Utility, in checking the Filter Config list, while I do
have the 6.0 kHz filter installed, I must select the 2.7 kHz or 2.8 kHz
for CW and SSB transmit.
Then from the CONFIG menu ESSB I can select up to 4.0 kHz bandwidth.
Receive BW on AM will go to 5.0 kHz and on SSB 4.0 kHz.
Am I correct that you do not achieve 4.0 kHz ESSB (widest TX with the K3S)
without selecting the 6.0 kHz crystal filter for SSB TX? Just want your
affirmation. :—)
David A. KK6DA, LA
David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com
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On 1/29/2016 8:40 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
Using the K3 Utility, in checking the Filter Config list, while I do
have the 6.0 kHz filter installed, I must select the 2.7 kHz or 2.8 kHz
for CW and SSB transmit.
>
> Then from the CONFIG menu ESSB I can select up to 4.0 kHz bandwidth.
The K3
Sent from my iPhone this time
On Nov 17, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Your intuition is correct, David. The same power in a narrower bandwidth
results in a higher spectral power density -- more watts per Hertz, so to
speak. Not to mention that at the
It's even kHz, with a lower case k, gentlemen...
mHz (yes millihertz!), Hz, kHz, MHz, GHz, THz
Op 17-11-14 om 19:29 schreef Phil Wheeler:
I think you meant KHz, not MHz, David :-)
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Not sure if it was you and I cant even remember what band 40 I think,
but during the contest I did run across what appeared to be a rather
wide ssb signal typical of ESSB, rag chewing The audio was great
sounding a little reminiscent of some the AM nets on 40m I would
think that it
Actually, I still prefer kc, Peter (or was there a
Mr. Cycle)?:-)
Phil W7OX
On 11/18/14 12:34 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:
It's even kHz, with a lower case k, gentlemen...
mHz (yes millihertz!), Hz, kHz, MHz, GHz, THz
Op 17-11-14 om 19:29 schreef Phil Wheeler:
I think you meant KHz,
If Hertz had been named Snodgrass, would we be talking Kilo-Snods?
73
Gil, W1RG
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Actually, I still prefer kc, Peter (or was there a
Mr. Cycle)?:-)
It wasn't about Mr. Hertz it was about the kilo that consistently is
written by a lot of folks with an upper case K, what I tried to focus
on. I suppose everyone knows why Hertz was given to the cycles per
second Phil was referring to...:-)
Op 18-11-14 om 18:04 schreef Richard Gillingham:
If
So, why is that? Most of the abbreviations for metric [i.e. SI]
prefixes with positive exponents are upper-case ... M [mega], G [giga],
T [tera], P [peta], X [exa], Z [zetta], Y [yotta]. *All* of the
abbreviations for prefixes denoting negative exponents are lower-case
... d [deci], c
Lower case for kilo and hecto might have been chosen to avoid collisions with
fundamental and derived units: K is Kelvin, H is Henries. Of course, micro
collides with m (meters), but Mega was already taken.
Just a guess.
I’m hoping we never have to deal with a TT (teraTesla). Well, that might
*k*, kilo (prefix)
*K, kelvin* (degree name), (symbol) °K, before 1967 *degree Kelvin*,
(Kelvin - person's surname)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:
So, why is that? Most of the abbreviations for metric [i.e. SI] prefixes
with positive exponents are
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- SI Rag Chew (sic) /divdiv
/div*k*, kilo (prefix)
*K, kelvin* (degree name), (symbol) °K, before 1967 *degree Kelvin*,
(Kelvin - person's surname)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:
So, why is that? Most
Well Eric, Kelvin is an absolute number, so there is no less than zero
whereas Celsius is a relative number. That's why.
Op 19-11-14 om 08:16 schreef norrislawfirm2:
To pick nits, it isn't degrees Kelvin it's just Kelvin or Kelvins. I don't
know why.
73
Eric WD6DBM
Experimented yesterday for a few minutes with ESSB (carefully avoiding weekend
contesters), and it raised a fundamental question: As bandwidth is broadened,
is effective radiated power diluted? In other words, will 500 watts with a
2.6MHz signal be more effective (stronger, punchier, more DBs
I think you meant KHz, not MHz, David :-)
My thinking is that the narrower communications
quality signal would be more effective.
How did you find 4KHz with none of those
contesters on it? Incredible accomplishment!
73, Phil W7OX
On 11/17/14 10:22 AM, David Ahrendts wrote:
Experimented
Yes, KHz, of course. Didn’t have the courage to consume 4KHz :—) but I did
answer the Elecraft net call at 1800z at 3KHz.
On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
I think you meant KHz, not MHz, David :-)
My thinking is that the narrower communications quality
On Mon,11/17/2014 10:22 AM, David Ahrendts wrote:
In other words, will 500 watts with a 2.6MHz signal be more effective
(stronger, punchier, more DBs transmitted) than 500 watts with a 4MHz ESSB
signal?
Change those MHz to kHz. :)
The answer is YES, MUCH stronger and punchier, more dB
Your intuition is correct, David. The same power in a narrower bandwidth
results in a higher spectral power density -- more watts per Hertz, so to
speak. Not to mention that at the receiving end, the operator can narrow his
bandwidth which lowers the noise floor that he hears underneath you.
Well put, Al. Thank you. More watts per Hertz!
On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Your intuition is correct, David. The same power in a narrower bandwidth
results in a higher spectral power density -- more watts per Hertz, so to
speak. Not to mention that
I'm glad K9YC answered your question. If you heard Jim's signal during the SS
this weekend then you got to hear what the shaping he is describing sounded
like. His audio was very piercing but clean. It's not what I would want to hear
during a long ragchew with him, but his purpose was to
Another way to look at this is that our ear is most sensitive to
frequencies around 2 kHz (roughly) and so you really want to put as
much of your power in that region as you can. In this way, you're
using the response of the other op's ear to your advantage.
Not entirely ... equal loudness
On 11/17/14 12:27 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
Another way to look at this is that our ear is
most sensitive to
frequencies around 2 kHz (roughly) and so you
really want to put as
much of your power in that region as you can.
In this way, you're
using the response of the other op's ear
but I still don't like appreciate it: Big hog of bandwidth, IMO. And it's so
easily recognizable on my P3 or PX3.
Of course, ESSB is not appropriate to contest environments or crowded bands in
general. (Although contesting in the aggregate is a far worse band hog than 1
or 2 ESSB QSOs).
ESSB has it’s place, just like every other mode.
Not every mode has a place on every band.
ESSB has no place on any band where wideband FM is not permitted due
to the bandwidth. Amateur radio is a communications service, not a
broadcast service and 2.7 KHz is all that is necessary for clean
Folks,
This list is not the place to debate where ESSB should, or should not, be
allowed, or to criticize those who use it. Please
take this portion of the thread to another location.
Thread closed.
73,
Eric
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On 11/17/2014 1:59 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB
I'm glad K9YC answered your question. If you heard Jim's signal during the
SS this weekend then you got to hear what the shaping he is describing
sounded like. His audio was very piercing but clean. It's not what I would
want to hear during a long ragchew with him
Rich,
Yes, you are right.
If you view the transmitter and receiver as a path along which the ESSB
transmitter's mike audio travels, then the transmitter's wide filter and
the receiver's narrow filter are in effect connected in series. Thus in
this case the combined response of the Tx and Rx
Let's end of the ESSB debate thread.
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On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Scott Manthe scott.man...@gmail.com wrote:
Wasted bandwidth, indeed. This is not the place to debate ESSB. It's a dead
horse that has been beaten from the pasture to the glue factory.
, isn't it going to
be wasted bandwidth?
Rich, n0ce
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Equalization
It works quite well too! Looks like Wide SSB TX
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To: Mike Markowski
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Equalization
It works quite well too! Looks like Wide SSB TX and plain SSB TX are
always left with the same
Wasted bandwidth, indeed. This is not the place to debate ESSB. It's a
dead horse that has been beaten from the pasture to the glue factory.
73,
Scott, N9AA
On 1/28/13 12:07 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
IMHO, those who want studio quality SSB should obtain a commercial
broadcasting license and use
to be wasted bandwidth?
Rich, n0ce
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To: Mike Markowski
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Equalization
It works quite well too! Looks like Wide SSB TX and plain SSB TX
is in qso with a station of the same
width, isn't it going to be wasted bandwidth?
Rich, n0ce
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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Equalization
I wish it were possible to leave the bandwidth wars somewhere else. :(
You don't want
Hi Ron,
Go the CONFIG:TX ESSB menu. Push the '1' key until VFO A reads, On or
OFF. If it's OFF, push the '1' key again and you should see it read
'On'.
Use VFO A to set the width you want. Then exit the menu.
73,
matt W6NIA
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:32:06 -0800, you wrote:
Recently I was
I wrote a tiny program for adjusting the 3 EQ settings:
http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/
and click on the Elecraft logo for the K3 EQ program.
This doesn't compare to elaborate programs that do much more, but might
be useful for a simple EQ adjustment. Not tested on all OSes, so no
It works quite well too! Looks like Wide SSB TX and plain SSB TX are
always left with the same profile.
73,
matt W6NIA
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:54:17 -0500, you wrote:
I wrote a tiny program for adjusting the 3 EQ settings:
http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/
and click on the Elecraft logo
Wayne,
When I enable the FM filter for AM Transmit I get a ERR TXF indication
when trying to transmit on SSB with ESSB enabled. Will there be a fix for
this?
Thank you,
Michael
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Michael,
We allow the FM filter to be use for AM transmit, now, but not for
ESSB transmit. The filter is too wide for this purpose.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
Wayne,
When I enable the FM filter for AM Transmit I get a ERR TXF
indication
when trying to transmit on SSB with ESSB enabled. Will there
Wayne,
Have you actually measured the output when using the FM filter for ESSB
transmit? I'd have thought with the excellent design of the K3, the DSP
should provide enough bounding.
73, Thomas M0TRN
On 15 November 2012 18:57, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
Michael,
We allow the FM
Wayne is right to restrict the use of the FM filter to non-ESSB
transmit. Too many hi-fi operators on 20 meters will be tempted to
transmit 13 kHz wide signals. No fix is necessary, in my opinion.
73,
Scott, N9AA
On 11/15/12 10:00 PM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
Wayne,
Have you actually measured
Too many hi-fi operators on 20 meters will be tempted to
transmit 13 kHz wide signals.
It is not possible to transmit a 13 KHz wide signal as the DSP
will not generate ESSB more than 4 KHz wide (CONFIG:TX ESSB).
No fix is necessary, in my opinion.
The phase noise pedestal with the 13 KHz
Hello Van,
i have had measured the K3 with Spectogram with the same results like you
discribed. The BW is abt 15% higher than the adjusted level. Reported that
behaviour to Elecraft a long time ago.
Hope that helps
Michael
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Using several different K3 and P3 combinations in over the air test, it appears
that when running the K3 in ESSB mode and set to 3KHZ the actual bandwidth for
a full audio range SSB signal is about 3.5 to 3.6 KHz in width. Set for 4Khz
the bandwidth is about 4.6 Khz. If this is not true then
Hi Bob,
I'm mostly a CW guy, but even I like using ESSB once in awhile. I only
use it when a band is sparsely populated, so there's no issue with
consuming a bit of extra bandwidth. It's a nice change to hear the
lows and highs a bit better during casual conversation.
Of course I'd never
Is anyone using ESSB? If so, can you listen to SSB using the AM filter set
say to 3.5 width but transmit on the 2.7/2.8 filter?
Mike
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Hello Mike,
of course, it works great.
73
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DL5OCD
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:47 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB
Hello Mike,
of course
N2DTS: I don't understand why some people like to limit other
peoplesactivity, or choices.
Excerpted from FCC rules Part 97:
§97.307 Emission standards.
(a) No amateur station transmission shall occupy more bandwidth than
necessary for the information rate and emission type being
And the FCC regulations are vague, i.e. ...than necessary..., ...good
amateur practice..., ...adjacent frequencies...
None of these are quantifiable. What constitutes compliance is a matter of
personal opinion.
Compare these requirements to those controlling emissions outside of the
amateur
, September 28, 2009 7:15 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules
N2DTS: I don't understand why some people like to limit other
peoplesactivity, or choices.
Excerpted from FCC rules Part 97:
§97.307 Emission standards.
(a) No amateur station transmission shall
Brett, reread part (a) of the FCC rules below. The maximum bandwidth
requirement is applied to each individual emission type (mode). The FCC
acknowledges the right to use voice modes like SSB and even AM ... it
just says you shouldn't abuse the bandwidth when you do so.
Dave AB7E
Brett
, September 28, 2009 10:38 AM
To: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules
Brett, reread part (a) of the FCC rules below. The maximum bandwidth
requirement is applied to each individual emission type (mode). The FCC
acknowledges the right to use voice modes like SSB and even AM
'; 'elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules
Read my message again. ESSB is a mode! I'm saying that
people who claim ESSB is wasteful then why can't CW ops say
that SSB is wasteful?
~BTH
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Not according to the FCC
Dave AB7E
Brett Howard wrote:
Read my message again. ESSB is a mode!
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Yes, and from the information I have, H3 and J3 (among others) are both
considered phone. H3 is full carrier SSB, so there's no lower limit to the
audio frequency allowed, only a 3 kHz upper limit. What's not defined in
Part 97 is what the 3 kHz means - 3 dB down from peak, 6 dB down? And no
slope
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
I have been on the air long enough to remember when there were serious
arguments for banishing all phone from the HF bands as a huge
spectrum-waster. Compared to CW and even most other digital modes, it
certainly is!
Though if you want a fair comparison, I
I have been on the air long enough to remember when there were serious
arguments for banishing all phone from the HF bands as a huge
spectrum-waster. Compared to CW and even most other digital modes, it
certainly is!
Though if you want a fair comparison, I suppose you should multiply the
Folks,
Let's end this thread discussing ESSB and the FCC rules.
73, Eric
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:31:19 -0400, Brett Gazdzinski wrote:
I don't understand why some people like to limit other peoples activity, or
choices.
Human society DEPENDS on limitations on other peoples activity. To name only a
few simple ones, we have traffic lights, speed limits, lane changing
When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about
50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100% power in either mode.
I reloaded the latest firmware, 2.23, no change.
20 meters is 100% output on either sideband.
Suggestions?
Steve Ellington
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I just checked mine on 40 meters and all is normal. Output is the same for
ESSB on or off, USB or LSB. I used a mic plugged into the front of the
radio.
Don K7FJ
When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about
50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100%
to 100w then quickly decreases to 50w. Not so in USB.
Steve Ellington
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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m
: Gary Surrency [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m
When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops
about 50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100% power in
either mode.
I reloaded the latest firmware, 2.23
i also see the same problem. i thought that for some reason the TXGN HP
setting was messed up. I checked this setting and confirmed it was ok. My K3
also shows the same symptoms on 40 meters.
Mike N8XPQ
n4lq wrote:
When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about
: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:51 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] essb with fm crystal filter
Will essb work with the fm xtal filter or does the firmware
disable this option? de zl1any
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W7GJ, Lance wrote:
I am very curious about this ESSB modeI am getting my K3 in a few
weeks, and
wonder what it sounds like with a normal SSB receiver using something like
2.8 KHz
filter. Does it sound better/worse/distorted? Or can you hear no
difference unless
you have a
W7GJ, Lance wrote:
I am very curious about this ESSB modeI am getting my K3 in a few
weeks, and
wonder what it sounds like with a normal SSB receiver using something like
2.8 KHz
filter. Does it sound better/worse/distorted? Or can you hear no
difference unless
you have a
All one has to do is set it up as a PF1/2 or M1-4 hotkey and then they
can turn it on/off...
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 02:03 -0700, Julian, G4ILO wrote:
W7GJ, Lance wrote:
I am very curious about this ESSB modeI am getting my K3 in a few
weeks, and
wonder what it sounds like with
I am very curious about this ESSB modeI am getting my K3 in a few weeks,
and
wonder what it sounds like with a normal SSB receiver using something like
2.8 KHz
filter. Does it sound better/worse/distorted? Or can you hear no
difference unless
you have a wider receive filter? Since most
Will essb work with the fm xtal filter or does the firmware disable this option?
de zl1any
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Don Rasmussen wrote:
Downloaded 2.23 here and setup for ESSB. Not a glitch,
as usual. At 3.0khz as compared to conventional SSB at
2.4 or 2.7khz it does not seem to be a new mode worthy
of a different name, but the audio sounds much fuller,
much more human.
I had a headset connected to my
of producing quality audio from
the K3 at 3khz essb.
[Elecraft] ESSB Works Well
LANCE COLLISTER w7gj at q.com
Sat Aug 2 21:48:24 EDT 2008
Don Rasmussen wrote:
Downloaded 2.23 here and setup for ESSB. Not a
glitch,
as usual. At 3.0khz as compared to conventional SSB
at
2.4 or 2.7khz it does
* ESSB (EXTENDED SINGLE SIDEBAND) ADDED: Allows the
K3 to transmit in SSB modes at a bandwidth of up to
about 4 kHz. Requires a 6 kHz crystal filter on the RF
board. Note: ESSB receive is obtained just by
adjusting the WIDTH control.
-
** ESSB receive requires a roofing filter wider than
I set the AM filter FL1 to 6Khz. I then set TX ESSB to 4 Khz and turned it on.
I received good audio reports tonight in ESSB mode. The USB and LSB now
transmit at the same level. I had to turn down the mic gain also. V.2.23
firmware is really great! Thanks Wayne and Eric. Roy Morris
So Roy - whats ESSB sound like to someone listening on
a standard analog transceiver like a FT1000 where the
filtering is closer to 2.7khz rather than 4 khz. Can
they reasonably tune ESSB in?
[Elecraft] ESSB Works Well
Roy Morris w4wfb at carolina.rr.com
Fri Aug 1 23:10:02 EDT 2008
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Julian G4ILO wrote:
Many digimode enthusiasts do get annoyed about PACTOR robot stations.
But mostly the digital modes each keep to different areas of the
digital sub-band and there is not very much conflict - unless you're
using some new mode
Everyone gets into such a high dudgeon about ESSB, but I see no one here
complaining about PACTOR III, which is a proprietary mode which takes up the
same bandwidth as a SSB signal, but is allowed in the data parts of the bands,
INCLUDING 30M. Not only that, but it is employed by dozens of robot
On 8/13/07, W2AGN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everyone gets into such a high dudgeon about ESSB, but I see no one here
complaining about PACTOR III, which is a proprietary mode which takes up the
same bandwidth as a SSB signal, but is allowed in the data parts of the
bands,
INCLUDING 30M. Not
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote:
Everyone gets into such a high dudgeon about ESSB, but I see no one here
complaining about PACTOR III
Perhaps it's because it's officially sanctioned by the ARRL. Mayhaps the folks
who want ESSB need to joing the sailboaters and pitch to them that hi fi SSB
I'm sure that will change now that it has been mentioned.
As the elecraft community are largely builders and experimenters, the
closed aspect of Pactor-III doesn't generate the interest that would
otherwise drive the discussion. As a protocol, Pactor-III is trying to
increase the throughput of a
Please see the K3 FAQ on ESSB.
73
Greg
AB7R
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Evidently, the K3 does not support ESSB
Also, see the specs...4 kHz max.
(Subject to change.)
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3_specs.htm
RayK3RIZ
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I'd like to know more about the K3's DSP engine and if it's powerful enough to
do a G4GUO type codec.
I'm not smart enough to make an estimate about the needed processing power
partly because I don't know what the rig is capable of, and partly because I
haven't played with a vocoder that does
An ignoble use for an elegant K3 ...
Ken Kopp - K0PP
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What good is ESSB? For good, bad, illegal -
K3 is capable apparently of generating it, in
some mode. If one can't transmit it, legally
or ethically - why for heavan's sake - would
I want the capability to receive it?
Are us poor hams, destined to have 2.7khz
or LESS, forever
: Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:22 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ESSB from a K3
OK ...
What good is ESSB? For good, bad, illegal -
K3 is capable apparently of generating it, in
some mode. If one can't transmit it, legally
or ethically - why for heavan's sake
Fred,
I really think you are phishing, but then I am not the list cop.
IMHO, if you want to transmit 'high fidelity', then you should obtain a
commercial broadcasting license. In the ham bands, I believe the rule
of minimum bandwidth required for communications should prevail. 2.8 or
less
Evidently, the K3 does not support ESSB, or for
sure it shouldn't. For me, I learned the very
edges of what ESSB supposedly is - but nothing
about it here.
Fred
N3CSY
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