On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:47 AM, -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.- wrote:
In the area where I live, we all have a very high noise level. There is a
lot of industry around us. There are times I have to tell the station to
increase power so I can understand them. All kind of crazy stuff going on
here. I get
Gary,
I live in a antenna restrictive neighborhood and I have to hide my three
antennas. I can't get much height and at the most 22 feet. I made a contact
to Australia on 400 watts and I couldn't get over the noise. When I
increased my power to 1500 watts, I was giving them a 5/5. I only run the
On 2/12/2010 4:49 PM, Larry K1UO wrote:
Larry K1UO wrote:
Whats really needed in a new amplifier would be a nice 6 Meter Solid
State amp from Elecraft to match up with the K3. Maybe something in the
500-800 watt range.
Let me clarify...A 6M amp only... not as p/o the existing 160-6 amp
... But, just to make sure, and so
that folks won't try to parse your statement, would you clarify that a bit
Lets not take all the fun out this! Why are we trying to box Elecraft
into a corner?
Mark AD5SS
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, David Y. w7...@cox.net wrote:
Eric,
O.K. I'm
Nobody puts Elecraft in a corner...
:-) de WW2PT
On Feb 16, 2010, at 6:29 AM, Mark Bayern wrote:
Lets not take all the fun out this! Why are we trying to box Elecraft
into a corner?
Mark AD5SS
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Let's end the AMP thread for now. We are not planning on an 800 or 1500
W solid state amp at this time.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
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So.
What about the K4?
Sorry I just couldn't resist.
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Eric wrote:
Let's end the AMP thread for now. We are not planning on an 800 or 1500
W solid state amp at this time.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
Man, I love it when there is an opening. Notice how Wayne ruled out very
specific power levels. My money is on the 400-500W class amp in the same
sized box as
I would be very interested in a 500W amp - legal limit here is 400W, so
something just over that so I didn't overdrive it would be interesting - or
just 400W - as long as 400W was 400W and clean
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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Let's end the AMP thread for now. We
WW2PT wrote:
An off-the-shelf, high-end appliance to compete with THP or SPE would
be a high-cost, low-volume, low-profit venture, something I would not
want to undertake in the current economic conditions if I were CEO of
Exactly!
The Microsemi ARF-1500's in the THP-2.5K are $270 a
Whats really needed in a new amplifier would be a nice 6 Meter Solid State
amp from Elecraft to match up with the K3. Maybe something in the 500-800
watt range.
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I hear M2 has one.
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Larry K1UO k...@uninet.net wrote:
Whats really needed in a new amplifier would be a nice 6 Meter Solid
State
amp from Elecraft to match up with the K3. Maybe something in the 500-800
watt range.
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To: Larry K1UO
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps
I hear M2 has one.
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Larry K1UO k...@uninet.net wrote:
Whats really needed in a new amplifier would be a nice 6 Meter Solid
State
amp from Elecraft to match up
Larry K1UO wrote:
Whats really needed in a new amplifier would be a nice 6 Meter Solid
State amp from Elecraft to match up with the K3. Maybe something in the
500-800 watt range.
Let me clarify...A 6M amp only... not as p/o the existing 160-6 amp
selections currently available.
This discussion has featured a wide range of viewpoints, but I think there are
several common threads in almost all the postings:
1. Elecraft has done a great job in the past of identifying and filling niche
markets with quality products at great prices.
2. There are lots of products on the
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 08:33 -0600, Bob Naumann wrote:
As an alternative, the Acom 1000 using a tube final (for those who prefer
valves in their final) is similar in price/output, but it is manually tuned
and runs about 1k out on all bands 160 through 6m.
I have (heavily) used my Acom1000 for
There must be a really good reason why amplifiers don't use on-board
switching supplies to get the weight and size down even further. An awful
lot of folks are using rigs powered by switchers which are obviously quiet
enough. Ameritron is an exception, but it's still outboard.
Perhaps an
David, there is no reason they couldn't package it with the PA other
than input source differences. If its a single platform, or use PA, we
will include power conditioning with it. The cases where we dont the
PA is used on multiple platforms and has to run from 1275, 704, 400
cycle, 3 phase etc.
Lew,
Could we car pool?
73,
Bill
K9YEQ
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There must be a really good reason why amplifiers don't use on-board
switching supplies ...
The THP HL-1.1 has a built-in switcher.
Phil - AD5X
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Is that the exception that proves the rule?
David
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There must be a really good reason why amplifiers don't use on-board
switching supplies ...
The THP HL-1.1 has a built-in switcher.
Phil - AD5X
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Is that the exception that proves the rule?
David
G3UNA
There must be a really good reason why amplifiers don't use on-board
switching supplies
Group -
For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you
to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000
of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3.
It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality
Right!
lawrence libsch wrote:
Group -
For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask
you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost
4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3.
It's excellent that
I am not so sure. A watt is a watt is a watt and it is very difficult to
conceive an amp that is going to be so superior (as the K3 is to every
other XVCR) that someone will give up what they have to get one. What would
you add to, or do different from, what is already available? The
I would give up my Icom PW-1 for an Elecraft solid-state amp. Oh, wait a
minute.
No, I won't give it up as long as I still have my Icom 756 Pro III but I would
very
much buy the Elecraft amp given that it is a 1 KW solution at least and the
price
is not too bad. Well, I might even consider a
: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:53 AM
To: lawrence libsch
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps
Right!
lawrence libsch wrote:
Group -
For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask
you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced
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Group -
For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask
you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now
Buck, Group -
Snip
A watt is a watt is a watt and it is very difficult to
conceive an amp that is going to be so superior (as the K3 is to every
other XVCR) that someone will give up what they have to get one. What
would
you add to, or do different from, what is already available?
I'll weigh in, just in case the Aptos crew is taking notes and
counting votes. ;-)
An off-the-shelf, high-end appliance to compete with THP or SPE would
be a high-cost, low-volume, low-profit venture, something I would not
want to undertake in the current economic conditions if I were CEO
I would also vote for a soldering style kit but I also recognize that there
could
be some SMT components already in place. Indeed, there are kits like this
already
where many of the components are SMT on the PCB but there is still work to be
done with other components and a soldering iron.
I
As Paul said Personally, I'd love a small (500w or 600w) solid-state
amplifier kit
that I can build myself (a *real* kit, with soldering iron and
everything!).
Amen! A kit with soldering would keep the cost down and give us K3 folks
something to make smoke with!
My vote is yes for small
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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps
Group -
For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you
to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000
of us have sold or retired other high
Hi Phil,
As I recall, the place Elecraft came from in the first place was a
seller of really cool and affordable kits for those who didn't want
another expensive plug-and-play appliance. ;-)
73,
WW2PT
On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
I disagree somewhat with the If I were
I have no doubt that a full featured 1.5KW output SS amp with tuner yada
yada
would be in the 10,000 or over category.
And I am sure there is a limited market for that, but look at how many
Ameritron
amps are sold, the SS series, I have replaced finals in many of the ALS
series amps. there
Good question, Dave.
$3600.00 for a 1Kw 160-6M with auto-tune.
73, Mike NF4L
Dave - AB7E wrote:
I find it kind of funny that all these folks who want Elecraft to develop and
market a high power amplifier are able to list all of the features it should
have, but not a single one so far
: 11 February 2010 15:49
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps
Group -
For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask
you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost
4000 of us have sold or retired other high
OK, I might as well document my personal wish list:
500W is more than enough. I want it physically small and acoustically
quiet.
Solid state. Auto tune and QSK with K3. AC powered. Kit is fine. No
internal tuner, but see options below. Target price $2K.
Option: REMOTE/WEATHERPROOF auto
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Buck, Group -
Snip
A watt is a watt is a watt and it is very difficult to
conceive an amp that is going to be so superior (as the K3 is to every
other XVCR) that someone will give up what they have to get one. What
Since we're dreaming, how about a base model kit (500W) with the
option to add up to two additional 500W PA modules via a power
combiner circuit. This would allow people to configure it to their
needs and/or budget and it would meet Phil's something new
requirement. Optional: auto-tuner,
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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps
I find it kind of funny that all these folks who want Elecraft to develop
, 2010 1:11 PM
To: AB3EN
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps
I have no doubt that a full featured 1.5KW output SS amp with tuner yada
yada
would be in the 10,000 or over category.
And I am sure there is a limited market for that, but look at how many
Ameritron
amps
As someone pointed out, there is less differentiation potential among
amplifiers than there is among transceivers. MFJ recently had an ad for a
solid-state, all-band, amplifier that was not yet type approved. I haven't
seen much since that first ad. It looked pretty compact and was described
as
Hi Merv.
Are you speaking of the Elefactor?
73,
Dick - KA5KKT
My only suggestion to Elecraft is to not leak any new products until
they are very close to release, outsiders and some insiders are getting the
opinion
that if a product is announced you can figure a year to 1 1/2 years
before
I would also buy one.
73
WD1V
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On Feb 11, 2010, at 1:15 PM, WW2PT ww...@arrl.net wrote:
I'll weigh in, just in case the Aptos crew is taking notes and
counting votes. ;-)
An off-the-shelf, high-end appliance to compete with THP or SPE would
be a high-cost,
How about 2 K3-sized enclosures...one amplifier, one power supply...both
modular.
3 x 500 sounds nice or perhaps 2 x 800...similar with the PS.
For the more technically savvy, can 1500 watts be made to work, sans power
supply, in a K3-sized enclosure? How about add-ons...particularly a tuner?
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Since we're dreaming, how about a base model kit (500W) with the
option to add up to two additional 500W PA modules via a power
combiner circuit. This would allow people
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llib...@bellsouth.net,
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What ever Elecraft comes out with in this venue is going to be acceptable
price wise because of their superior marketing skill
Craig wrote:
OK, I might as well document my personal wish list:
500W is more than enough. I want it physically small and acoustically
quiet.
Solid state. Auto tune and QSK with K3. AC powered. Kit is fine. No
internal tuner, but see options below. Target price $2K.
Option:
Has it struck anyone that the sounds of silence from Aptos are deafening?
Bring it on!
500 watts plus, suitable for portable/dxpedition use, auto tuner and a minimum
of 2 antenna inputs, preferably 4, auto band switching included, kit and
factory assembled etc.
It will most definitely sell.
It will be interesting to see what Elecraft decides to do.
It is a strategic market question.
There are a number of amp solutions currently.
I'm sure that the K2 K3 owners using them have applied the necessary
ingenuity to obtain satisfactory compatibility.
Also a certain popular amp
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What ever Elecraft comes out with in this venue is going to be acceptable
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I have the Ameritron AL-1500 and it's a powerhouse.
Used to have an Alpha 77SX and that was double this
amp. I like to use power in contests but playing by
the rules is a mandate so over the max legal power
is of no value. I use a factory aligned LP-100A to
keep me legit. This is not A QSK
Hmmm, why is it necessary to run 1500 watts?
Seems like a huge investment in amplifiers, antennas, accessories and cables
along with the associated maintenance.
We here you guys but you often don't her us. Perhaps power does not replace an
efficient antenna system?
Although we are restricted
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Hmmm, why is it necessary to run 1500 watts?
Seems like a huge investment in amplifiers, antennas
Let me add another data point why a KPA800 makes sense:
I only have 120V in the shack, so I would like to see a solid state amp that
can do 800W with a built in power supply. That's probably the max you can get
out of that circuit 15A * 80% *120V = 1440W max continuos. At 50% efficiency
you
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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps
Craig wrote:
OK, I might as well document my personal wish list:
500W is more than enough. I want it physically small
Gang:
Let's keep this conversation away from being a QRP vs. QRO, VK vs.
W/K, etc. and admit up front that all power levels have their place. It
would seem out of place to run U.S. legal limit on 40 cw ragchewing up
and down the coast, etc. But then a small amp at 300-500W can be useful
to keep
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I'll weigh
I'll second that!
Rick
K6LE
On 2/11/2010, at 11:35 , Craig D. Smith wrote:
OK, I might as well document my personal wish list:
500W is more than enough. I want it physically small and acoustically
quiet.
Solid state. Auto tune and QSK with K3. AC powered. Kit is fine. No
internal
Check out the Italian Expert 1K FA solid state amp.
Here is a video:
http://www.radio-ham.eu/video.htm
SteppIR represents them in the USA.
73de W6BK
On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Andreas Junge wrote:
Let me add another data point why a KPA800 makes sense:
I only have 120V in the shack,
Yet??? My old JRL-2000F kilowatt had an autotuner in 1995. It worked
flawlessly.
de WW2PT
On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Allan Taylor wrote:
Let's keep the autotuners out of the amp. I suspect the technology
isn't
stable yet.
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I think that is market for VHF amplifiers too...Look at this site,
http://www.i0jxx.com/index.php?cPath=18_34, it's some kind of modular
approach but without good manuals...
Samir, 7S7V
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Now that I have your attention with the subject line
I have researching HF amplifiers for a future purchase. I currently have a
little old AL80A and I would like to have a little more oompf in my signal from
time to time.
QRPers, you may delete this message now
I have been asking
Mike Harris wrote:
On the subject of amps, what news the Elecraft QRO linears. They've
been a long time brewing. I could just go over to the dark side.
I saw both the KPA800 and KPA1500 at Visalia this weekend. They are not
taking orders yet, pending FCC certification. Elecraft said
Have pictures of the Elecraft amps been posted anywhere??
73, Joe W2KJ
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