Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-15 Thread David Cutter
Bill It is quite likely that the heating effect is different on each band and some bands will prefer a longer feeder than others. The swr that the matching unit provides is easy to measure but only tells us what the transmitter sees. W8JI has a lot to say on the subject. 73 David G3UNA

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-14 Thread Bill Strong
Mike, I have been using the 130' Cobra Ultralite Senior Multiband doublet style antenna by http://www.k1jek.com for several years. I currently use it with my K2/100 and KAT100. The antenna comes with 100' of twinlead which I attach to a DX Engineering 10KW 4:1 balun (DXE-BAL-200-H11_C) at my

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-14 Thread David Cutter
Bill DX Engineering stuff is very well made and I wonder if perhaps some of the difference between theirs and the Elecraft BL2 is more a question of size. I'm wondering if you could be getting the same amount of heat in each balun, but the huge bulk of the metal-encased 10kW DXE product

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-14 Thread Bill Strong
David, I am sure you are correct in your idea that just as much heat is produced in the DXE balun as in the Elecraft balun but the heat is easily absorbed by the huge DXE balun. I do not have an analyzer to measure impedance at the base of the twin lead. All I can say is that the KAT 100 is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-12 Thread Robert Tellefsen
] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts I am considering building a multi-band doublet fed with ladder line to the window and then 10-12 feet of coax to the K3 from the window interface. I would let the K3 ATU tune the beast

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-12 Thread Vic K2VCO
Robert Tellefsen wrote: To make antenna matching easier for the TX, I have a homebrew relay box that adds in various lengths of more 450 ohm window line to bring the feedpoint reactance down to close to zero. This gives the ATU a chance to match easily and gives the best 2:1 swr bandwidth.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-12 Thread Robert Tellefsen
:-) 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Tellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts Robert Tellefsen wrote: To make

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-12 Thread Vic K2VCO
Robert Tellefsen wrote: After listening to K9YC at our NCCC meetings, I think I need to increase the impedance of this 1:1 choke balun though. It's a bit undersized from his point of view :-) Mine is huge, consisting of 13 turns of RG-58/u passing through SIX FT-240-61 cores. A high

[Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-11 Thread Mike Scott
I am considering building a multi-band doublet fed with ladder line to the window and then 10-12 feet of coax to the K3 from the window interface. I would let the K3 ATU tune the beast. I have been playing with a coax calculator and with low loss coax and 10:1 SWR the losses in the short run of

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-11 Thread AB7R
] Behalf Of Mike Scott Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:55 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts I am considering building a multi-band doublet fed with ladder line to the window and then 10-12 feet of coax to the K3 from the window interface. I would

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Multi-Band antenna thoughts

2008-03-11 Thread AE4CW
Mike, I'm having very good results with a 136.5 foot OCF dipole (1/3-2/3) fed with 120 feet of 300 ohm ladder line to an Elecraft BL-2 balun and one foot of coax to the K3. The SWR at the radio is less than 1.8 and as low as 1.2 across all of 80, 40, 20, 17, 12, 2/3 of 10 and even the first 1/4