Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-29 Thread Ian White
Apologies once again - this message sent yesterday to G3RXQ was meant to be copied to the whole group. -- You are right, Stewart. Please cancel that whole paragraph about the KIO3B. Apologies to the group for spreading my confusion worldwide. 73 from

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread Stewart
e for the K3 as well, as an optional replacement for the older > KIO3. > > > 73 from Ian GM3SEK > >>-Original Message- >>From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >>Stewart >>Sent: 28 October 2015 07:42 >>To: Wayne

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread Stewart
Thanks for the "heads up" Wayne. 73 Stewart G3RXQ - On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:35:54 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote: > The speaker amplifier and driver stages that were redesigned are on the DSP board, not the KIO3B. > > The KIO3B does have new audio circuitry, namely a CODEC and support circuitry for

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
The speaker amplifier and driver stages that were redesigned are on the DSP board, not the KIO3B. The KIO3B does have new audio circuitry, namely a CODEC and support circuitry for merging line-level audio with control data for use by the new USB port. But this has nothing to do with the

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread jim
: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 1:28 PM To: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon? We've made several changes to improve audio over years, and a K3S incorporates all of them: - K3: improved 12VDC decoupling to the AF amp - K3: added

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread jim
vice level is second to none, going to great lengths in an attempt to sort out the issue. . -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike K2MK Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 11:58 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft]

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
All of the improvements I mentioned benefit the headphone jacks, *except* the AF amp redesign, which affects only the internal and external speakers. The headphone amplifier has always had extremely low distortion. Wayne N6KR On Oct 28, 2015, at 8:00 AM, jim wrote: >

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
Any notion yet about when the new DSP board will be available for order for K3 retrofit? Thanks .. Grant NQ5T > On Oct 28, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > The speaker amplifier and driver stages that were redesigned are on the DSP > board, not the KIO3B. > >

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
These algorithms were corrected a couple of years ago and are already part of the K3/K3S firmware load. 73, Wayne N6KR On Oct 28, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Stewart wrote: > I am interested as to whether the corrected DSP AGC algorithms will be > available > for K3 DSP's. > >

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread Stewart
I am interested as to whether the corrected DSP AGC algorithms will be available for K3 DSP's. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:28:19 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote: > We've made several changes to improve audio over years, and a K3S > incorporates all of them: > > - K3: improved 12VDC

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread Ian White
the older KIO3. 73 from Ian GM3SEK >-Original Message- >From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >Stewart >Sent: 28 October 2015 07:42 >To: Wayne Burdick; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO >Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread N2TK, Tony
: 'Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO' <k2vco@gmail.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon? All of the improvements I mentioned benefit the headphone jacks, *except* the AF amp redesign, which affects only the internal and external speakers. T

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread jim
craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Lorona Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:37 PM To: Charlie T, K3ICH; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon? Oh no... Oh no, not the "bad K3 audio" thread again?! I'm pretty sure that, five ye

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-28 Thread ae4pb
, K3ICH'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon? Al, The thread will not go away until something is done to address the issue. Elecraft makes the best "system" in the market place, however, the audio and noise reduction implantation le

[Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Paul Clay via Elecraft
I was wondering if and when a full-on review of the K3S would be forthcoming. I'm a bit surprised that following its release there hasn't been a lot of reviews posted (certainly no comparison to the number of reviews that followed the release of the original K3). A comprehensive review of the

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
Operators disagree about K3/K3S audio. To me it sounds great, others dislike it. The best way to settle the question for your own, personal ears, is to find someone nearby who will let you use his/her K3S for a few hours. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 27

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Chortek Bob via Elecraft
net> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon? Hi Paul, I'm pretty sure that the "tiring" issue with the K3 was put to bed with the DSP upgrade with low pass filtering (K3DSPUPGD) in 2010

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Paul, I'm pretty sure that the "tiring" issue with the K3 was put to bed with the DSP upgrade with low pass filtering (K3DSPUPGD) in 2010. 73, Mike K2MK Elecraft mailing list wrote > I was wondering if and when a full-on review of the K3S would be > forthcoming. I'm a bit surprised that

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 27 Oct 13:59 -0500, Mike K2MK wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I'm pretty sure that the "tiring" issue with the K3 was put to bed with the > DSP upgrade with low pass filtering (K3DSPUPGD) in 2010. I've had my K3 just over 5 years--received in October 2010--and I've never experienced the "tiring

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
We've made several changes to improve audio over years, and a K3S incorporates all of them: - K3: improved 12VDC decoupling to the AF amp - K3: added a dual low-noise LPF to eliminate residual sampling noise (mostly at 12 kHz) - K3: corrected DSP AGC algorithms, which were non-monotonic at

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread brian
+ AGC parameters? On 10/27/2015 20:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We've made several changes to improve audio over years, and a K3S incorporates all of them: - K3: improved 12VDC decoupling to the AF amp - K3: added a dual low-noise LPF to eliminate residual sampling noise (mostly at 12 kHz) -

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
I'm not sure what they did, buy my new K3s sounds better to me than my original K3 (27xx S/N), as well as being better than the previous audio winner, my IC-7600. That said, I have some high frequency hearing loss making conversation in a crowd difficult. However, I could understand almost

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread John Pierce
​ Audio quality seems to be a very individual matter of taste. The language of audiophiles looks to be rivaled only by that of wine experts in trying to describe their taste. Radio communication audio doesn't have near that complexity, but there does still seem to be a lot of personal taste

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Bill
When I first got my K3, I was very disappointed by the receive audio. Hissy etc. I think everyone knows what I am talking about. It was not my friend for a very long time. It took me months of experimenting with the various menu settings and speaker selections, but I eventually turned the K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

2015-10-27 Thread Al Lorona
Oh no... Oh no, not the "bad K3 audio" thread again?! I'm pretty sure that, five years from now, people will still be asking, "Was the phase noise of the new synthesizers reviewed in QST ever fixed so that it's better than the old synthesizer at higher offsets?" Al W6LX