Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread tnnyswy--- via Elecraft
In other words! Keep It Simple Stupid! .KISS! Milverton / W9MMS. On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 7:49:36 PM CDT, K9MA wrote: If one is going to remote the KPA1500, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to extend the 240 V AC line? Or just install a 240 V outlet at the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread K9MA
If one is going to remote the KPA1500, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to extend the 240 V AC line? Or just install a 240 V outlet at the amplifier location. 73, Scott K9MA On 8/1/2018 16:17, j...@kk9a.com wrote: That is why I said "IF" you are making a longer cable... John KK9A David

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/1/2018 12:44 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: eventually I purchased a crimper and connectors and made cables myself. Call me old-fashioned, but I've installed hundreds of Power Pole connectors mostly the smaller red/white ones used on the K3, but also the much larger grey ones that accommodate

[Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread j...@kk9a.com
That is why I said "IF" you are making a longer cable... John KK9A David Bunte K9FN wrote: I am also a bit confused (not the first time), but I could have SWORN that the initial query was from someone who wanted a SHORTER cable. Dave - K9FN On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:45 PM john at kk9a.com

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread David Bunte
I am also a bit confused (not the first time), but I could have SWORN that the initial query was from someone who wanted a SHORTER cable. Dave - K9FN On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:45 PM j...@kk9a.com wrote: > Elecraft was my first experience with power pole connectors and I have > purchased custom

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread Clay Autery
WHICH is why I detailed in the VERY beginning on this thread how to make the longer cable using 4AWG (or larger if desired).  The ONLY place the cable would not be the larger gauge would be in the crimp terminal... IF anyone is interested, I will repost what I wrote  or just email me

[Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread j...@kk9a.com
Elecraft was my first experience with power pole connectors and I have purchased custom cables from Powerwerx. They did a nice job, eventually I purchased a crimper and connectors and made cables myself. If you are making the KPA1500 cable longer than the factory cable it is probably desirable to

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread tnnyswy--- via Elecraft
I'm missing something here!I keep seeing the question being asked, " What size cable is the power cord?" How about employing the KISS theory. Would it not make sense to make up an extension cord with a length to the approximate desired location from the power source? Such an extension would

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread Richard Thorne
Mike, I went directly to Elecraft with my question. The answer is 6g. I was told to be sure to use the correct crimp tool for the job.  If I make the cable I'll probably just have Powerwerx handle it as they have the correct hydraulic tool for the job. Rich - N5ZC On 8/1/2018 12:56 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-08-01 Thread Mike Maloney
Okay have looked over the posts, but somehow have missed the actual AWG(American wire gage) SIZE of the stock DC pair?   Anyone KNOW this or maybe even micro-ohm tested (a long shot) it?  Voltage drop (ps to amp) divided by full load dc amps would be close enough.  73,  Mike  AC5P  On

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/31/2018 2:40 PM, K8ZCT wrote: Jim, Please accept my apologies. Sorry for giving you Kudo's for the wrong Handbook. I should have stated that you are are a contributor to the 2018 Edition of "The ARRL Handbook". I have many of your articles and to be honest the ARRL "Grounding Book" has

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-31 Thread K8ZCT
Jim, Please accept my apologies. Sorry for giving you Kudo's for the wrong Handbook. I should have stated that you are are a contributor to the 2018 Edition of "The ARRL Handbook". I have many of your articles and to be honest the ARRL "Grounding Book" has a lot of information that is also in

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-31 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Points to consider. A legal limit amp dissipates ~1kW of heat. Small compact amps must provide the same heat dissipation as physically large amps. Thus airflow must increase in order to cool the components in a physically small case amp. Physically large amps have more room and slower airflow

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-31 Thread Fred Jensen
Good, Fast, Cheap ... choose two. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 7/31/2018 7:21 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: Otherwise a science project with unknown results. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Clay Autery wrote: Every successful

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/31/2018 5:13 AM, K8ZCT wrote: Jim Brown is on the National Electrical Code Committee, Sorry, I'm not, and have never been. I do own an old copy of the NEC code, and have studied parts of it that affect the pro audio systems that I designed before I retired.  I am a member of the AES

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-31 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Otherwise a science project with unknown results. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 31, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > > Every successful project begins with a thorough analysis of the REQUIREMENTS > and CONDITIONS. > Proper design seeks to satisfy the entries on these lists

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-31 Thread Clay Autery
Every successful project begins with a thorough analysis of the REQUIREMENTS and CONDITIONS. Proper design seeks to satisfy the entries on these lists within the available funding. Success when skipping these steps is pure luck and coincidence. 73, __ Clay Autery, KY5G

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-31 Thread K8ZCT
Jim Brown is on the National Electrical Code Committee, so he knows what he is saying and I would trust his opinion 100%! I guess my thought on any remote wiring is, if your really going to go through all the effort to do the project, then do it with materials, that you know when you purchase

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-30 Thread Charlie T
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:32 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size On 7/30/2018 6:43 AM, K8ZCT wrote: > Speaker wire is made for speaker systems. Although it may look like "lamp

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-30 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/30/2018 6:43 AM, K8ZCT wrote: Speaker wire is made for speaker systems. Although it may look like "lamp cord" it is not listed for use to wire up a lamp. Right -- it has to do with voltage breakdown of the insulation, which must be 3kV on the AC power line (in the case of a lightning

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-30 Thread K8ZCT
One of previous posts recommended using speaker wire for the remote connection of the KPA-1500 amplifier to the KPA-1500 power supply. Speaker wire is made for speaker systems. Although it may look like "lamp cord" it is not listed for use to wire up a lamp. You should buy rated "lamp cord" for

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-30 Thread W2xj
Context? Sent from my iPad > On Jul 30, 2018, at 4:12 AM, K8ZCT wrote: > > I don't think speaker cable has a voltage rating for this purpose. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-30 Thread K8ZCT
I don't think speaker cable has a voltage rating for this purpose. -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread john
: Larry (K8UT) [mailto:k...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 3:30 PM To: j...@kk9a.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size I purchased 75 amp Anderson Powerpole connectors and #6 flex speaker cable from Debco Electronics for my extension

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Clay Autery
Presuming of course that the "zip cord" cable stock is the size and flexibility you want/"need".  PP crimp tools are hardly exotic  And believe it or not some of us enjoy making our own cables...  __ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 28-Jul-18 22:11, Phil Kane

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Phil Kane
On 7/28/2018 1:57 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Only problem, besides price, for the Powerwerx custom cables is that > they don't have twisted pair only parallel conductors. Split the PP. Split the conductors. Do the twist. Re-slide the PPs. I've done that on a bunch of cables. Does not

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Clay Autery
Thorne Date: 7/28/18 16:06 (GMT-06:00) To: Clay Autery , Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size Clay, For a one time deal, the price is competitive compared to buying the tools, cable and PP's to do it yourself. Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Richard Thorne
Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size Looks like I can order a custom cable from powerwerx.com with 75 amp power poles and 6g wire (assuming that's the correct size). https://powerwerx.com/custom-dc-power-cables The crimp tool is not too expensive so it may be worth

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Larry (K8UT)
) -- Original Message -- From: "Clay Autery" To: "Richard Thorne" ; "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: 2018-07-28 16:57:52 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size Only problem, besides price, for the Powerwerx custom cables is that they don't have t

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Clay Autery
Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size Looks like I can order a custom cable from powerwerx.com with 75 amp power poles and 6g wire (assuming that's the correct size). https://powerwerx.com/custom-dc-power-cables The crimp tool is not too expensive so it may

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Richard Thorne
Looks like I can order a custom cable from powerwerx.com with 75 amp power poles and 6g wire (assuming that's the correct size). https://powerwerx.com/custom-dc-power-cables The crimp tool is not too expensive so it may be worth buying the tool and rolling my own.  I've used 15,30 and 45 amp

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Larry (K8UT)
craft Reflector'" Sent: 2018-07-28 15:21:03 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size The 75 amp Powerpole connector is designed for 6, 8 or 10 AWG wire so you might have problems squeezing a larger wire in. John KK9A [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size Clay A

[Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread john
The 75 amp Powerpole connector is designed for 6, 8 or 10 AWG wire so you might have problems squeezing a larger wire in. John KK9A [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size Clay Autery KY5G at montac.com If it uses a 75 Amp PP connector, my inclination would be to use the 6AWG MINIMUM

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Clay Autery
If it uses a 75 Amp PP connector, my inclination would be to use the 6AWG MINIMUM.  I would be tempted to use the flexible welding cable lead stock in the largest gauge I could fit in the application space.  I'd trim down the end of the conductor to JUST fit into the 75 AMP crimp contact. 

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
I don't see it documented, but it uses a 75A PowerPole connector. Cable thickness (with insulation) is 1/3rd of an inch so I'm guessing it's AWG #6. It's VERY heavy. 73, Bob, N6TV On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Richard Thorne wrote: > What gauge wire is used for the HV line between the

[Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Supply Cable Size

2018-07-28 Thread Richard Thorne
What gauge wire is used for the HV line between the power supply and amp?  I'd like to build or source a shorter cable. Thanks Rich - N5ZC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: