Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

Bob, W4/KP4Y said: I agree with other gentleman that Jim can be very offensive in his responses sometimes. I don't mean to be offensive, but there are times when it is appropriate to "tell it like it is." As Clay and others have noted, the new ham in question was repeatedly ignoring the

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

Well sir, we'll have to agree to disagree. The young HAM (in HAM years anyway) was not LISTENING to those from whom he had openly solicited advice. He was informed of this, perhaps lightly chastised... Now that he is aware, he may choose whether to modify his behavior to be more productive

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

Hahahahaha. It stimulates the blood and gets what's left of the fire in the boiler stirred up. On 05/01/2017 01:35 AM, Edward R Cole [via Elecraft] wrote: > I'll probably get flamed with this comment (oh what the heck): Joking aside, all of the State and Federal agencies are preparing for a

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

Thanks Joe, I do have two of the ARRL Antenna Books but wasn't familiar the other references. I'll be sure to look them up. I'm currently using a multiband dipole that has really impressed me given it's poor location and setup. It's obvious I need an "antenna tool kit". That would be very

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

I'll probably get flamed with this comment (oh what the heck): How many of you theorizing about a 9.0 Richter earthquake have actually experience one! I not talking about 5 pr 6 or 7 an actual 9+ Why don't you ask an Alaskan Ham? In 1964 south central Alaska experienced a 9.2 (2nd

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

I took it down to 5 watts pronto before I started reconfig. Roger that on the dementia also. One step at a time. One day at a time. My sincere gratitude. I'll keep you posted. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 09:39 PM, Don Wilhelm [via Elecraft]

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

I'd say ARRL Handbook, Antenna book and Operating Manual are a must in every ham's library. I got a set when first licensed in the '70s. Bought an updated set 25 years later. It's been 15 years and I just got a new handbook. Probably due for the new version antenna book. These are first rate

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

Stan, Turn the power down while experimenting and you should not "blow the finals". I am 77 and still learning, so age is not an excuse. It is never too late to learn. Besides, it exercises the brain which is known to provide a hedge to dementia. That is why I am still repairing Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

Grerald, I would suggest that everyone obtain the ARRL Antenna Handbook. Ignore the sections dealing with specifics, but study the sections dealing with basic antennas and transmission lines. Once you obtain a grasp of those fundamentals, you can extend that to an understanding of all

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

Thanks again Don. I'm working on that. I agree that this skill set is fast fading. One of the interesting aspects of the ham circles I am affiliated with is that we are all well over 65 and most beyond that. I have secured many hundreds of feet of good quality coax, spools of wire to build

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

Don I couldn't agree with you more I am guilty of this too. What books could you recommend I start with? Thanks Gerald KC6CNN > On Apr 30, 2017, at 10:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > One important thing I forget to mention is that you should learn how to > construct

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

Well taken Don. The capacity to be mobile, versatile and functional is my primary goal. It all takes time and I am old. I'm doing my best for my small community. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 08:22 PM, Don Wilhelm [via Elecraft] wrote: > One

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

One important thing I forget to mention is that you should learn how to construct your own effective antennas. To my mind, that skill may be critical in an emergency. and with the proliferation (and acceptance) of ready made manufactured antennas, I am afraid that skill is decreasing in ham

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

<elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes I was at work during the Loma Prieta earthquake. Our HP building (now a Tesla building) on Deer Creek Road had hydrogen piping and HF Waste piping. That was fine, but a 4 main in the

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

Stan, While you have made your motives clear, if such an emergency does arise, just powering up radios and transmitting can result in communications chaos. I encourage you to get on the air not only to familiarize yourself with your equipment, but also to experiment with a variety of

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

On 4/30/2017 7:03 PM, KG7FYI wrote: > I am planning guy wires even on the standalone to help but as you note > when it starts all bets are off. Are you a structural engineer? Even my consulting engineering company turns to those experts when doing stations that involve antenna tower

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

I am planning guy wires even on the standalone to help but as you note when it starts all bets are off. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 06:23 PM, Phil Kane-2 [via Elecraft] wrote: > On 4/30/2017 1:22 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > > I have always wondered

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

Duly bookmarked. Thanks. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 12:01 PM, Jim Brown-10 [via Elecraft] wrote: > > http://k9yc.com/AntennaPlanning.pdf addresses this with a table and > graphs. See Fig 36 and Table 1 on page 11. > > 73, Jim K9YC - Stan

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

We're at 160% or normal precipitation this year in the Cascades. The ground everywhere is Jello. That said, the models are saying our area will be to the equivalent to 7.0+ if the subduction zones goes off as predicted. Winter before last there were several million board feet of large Douglas

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

I agree Kevin. The one advantage here in rural Oregon is that there's a modicum of adaptability in peoples lives that helps them get buy. We are out of power, phone and satellite internet frequently in the winter. It sounds very much like your situation in "Coho" country. BTW, I've spent the

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

On 4/30/2017 1:22 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > I have always wondered how towers hold up during earthquakes. Being able > to work with ad-hoc antennas seems a good attribute for any emergency plan. Radio Station KGO(AM) in San Francisco has its transmitting plant (directional array with three

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

Yep, most excellent attribute. Our club does annual field trips just for that purpose. To be honest I was shocked what a long wire could do with the right equipment. I'll the first to admit I'm just getting my legs. That said, radio is a fantastic tool for my needs. I've never done it as a

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

One item which rarely makes it onto the ECOM check lists is fitness. How many folks are prepared to actually do all the work necessary after a major disaster. The majority of folks would not be able to walk to the nearest shelter let alone help others. We, as a nation, are woefully

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

The 1964 Alaska earthquake was a 9.2 centered SSE of Anchorage. I was at Galena AFS at the time, on the Yukon River in the northern interior just south of the Arctic Circle. It's fairly flat up there and after we realized there was an earthquake, we could watch to the south and it appeared

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

I better order a K3S quick as Elecraft will be toast. Peter LaBissoniere k...@wi.rr.com > On Apr 30, 2017, at 5:36 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > I was at work during the Loma Prieta earthquake. Our HP building (now a Tesla > building) on Deer Creek Road had hydrogen

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

FWIW: When we moved here in 2015, I joined the W7RN crew and began to use the station remotely. Very high Coefficient of Aerial Aluminum on 7 or so towers, very low noise levels. I had been checking into the NorCal traffic net on 80 and wanted to continue. The main 80 meter antenna at W7RN

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

t; From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > kev...@coho.net > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 1:40 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB > > I lose my antennas about once each year to straight li

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

elsewhere. They are darn clumsy to move by hand in an emergency. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kev...@coho.net Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 1:40 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

I was at work during the Loma Prieta earthquake. Our HP building (now a Tesla building) on Deer Creek Road had hydrogen piping and “HF Waste” piping. That was fine, but a 4” main in the sprinkler system broke, soaking lab notebooks. I remember planning a route home to Mountain View that did not

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes

When we get that 9.0 quake many of my local roads will go away. The gravel logging roads carved into the side of the mountain will collapse. They regularly do so during our torrential rain season. A quake will just make it worse. Plus the number of trees I'll have to cut between here and my

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

Clay, Do have a horse in this race? I believe Mr. Brown can defend himself. I agree with other gentleman that Jim can be very offensive in his responses sometimes. That has been well documented in this forum and others. It's against the spirit of ham radio and you are sanctioning that type of

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

The potential Cascadia earthquake could be 9.0. That means that every tower will fall, maybe even those built like this CHP/CalOES tower. http://www.oesnews.com/going-towering-heights-keep-emergency-communications-flowing/

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

True dat. Once I accidentally worked Mexico on a dummy load from here in the valley below Kevin's mountain in NW Oregon. 73 -- WS7L On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 1:40 PM, kev...@coho.net wrote: > ... just remember any antenna can make contacts. >

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

I lose my antennas about once each year to straight line winds. Flying branches knock them down. But if the wires are still intact I can run the nets with the lowered antennas. Using less than optimal antennas works; just not as well as perfect antennas. In an emergency I really don't care

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

I have always wondered how towers hold up during earthquakes. Being able to work with ad-hoc antennas seems a good attribute for any emergency plan. 73 Bill AE6JV On 4/30/17 at 11:34 AM, kev...@coho.net wrote: Please try NVIS on 40 or 80 meters. You'll find you can cover most of the state

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

On Sun,4/30/2017 11:34 AM, kev...@coho.net wrote: Plus the antennas can be ad hoc - tossed into trees or even an old fence line. There's a bit of fiction in the belief that antennas must be very low for NVIS. Fact is that higher is better, up to a quarter wave. The optimum height for a

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB

I live in Oregon's Northern Coast Range. 2 meters has the same problems up here as it does in the Southern regions. Because most of the locals have CB radios it is how we communicate in an emergency. The local repeaters are dead other than during net times or drive times. If you really

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight

P.S. I have my General Class license with my eye on Extra some time in the not too distant future. s On 04/30/2017 03:04 AM, Bill W4ZV [via Elecraft] wrote: > Hi Stan, > > Responding to excerpts below: > > KG7FYI wrote > Our very local scenario is filled with mountains and valleys. We

Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight

Thanks Bill. Yes it is a very nice area. This is us http://www.singingfalls.com Right now the antenna plan is thus. : Two towers spanning 380 feet. The foundations are poured and towers staged. Working on refurbishing a used KT34XA to current '36XA specs. I will have a 2M yagi pointed and our

[Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight

Hi Stan, Responding to excerpts below: KG7FYI wrote > Our very local scenario is filled with mountains and valleys. We are the > land of “One Hundred Valleys”. Actually there are thousands of them! 2M > is very spotty. > > Our ARES group requires go bags for all vehicles. Few people but a