Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-12 Thread GW0ETF

I recall sometime ago enquiring of Ron Stone GW3YDX at Vine (UK Acom sales)
and being told that the 1010 doesn't have vacuum relays and to go with the
1000 if I was serious about QSK. 

I did just that and fully support what Rick says below about the 1000.

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF


Rick Tavan N6XI wrote:
 
 Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on
 full
 QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the
 1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes
 quality.
 For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's
 hard to beat. Very quiet, too.
 
 /Rick
 
 On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy jdan...@cinci.rr.com wrote:

 I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it
 daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I enjoy
 the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing
 DX.
 The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input from
 the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2
 and
 K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an
 option.
 The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a way
 to
 integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the smaller
 Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine
 from
 the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also
 considered
 the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps.

 I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can
 apprise me of where that has gone.

 Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I
 realize some do not.

 73,  Jim W9VNE
   Cincinnati, Ohio
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Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-12 Thread Jim Danehy
Doug

Same problem here finding out anything about sales in North America. All I 
get is a photo of the Acom 1010 and nothing else. A few years ago they were 
being sold by a company in Boston then K6ND now it appears their sales in NA 
are in limbo. That type of instability scares me. I am sure we will get some 
needed feedback on my comments. That is why I am blunt with my comments. 
Need answers based upon facts not guess work.

Jim W9VNE
- Original Message - 
From: Doug Person d...@northroutt.net
To: Rick Tavan N6XI rta...@gmail.com
Cc: Jim Danehy jdan...@cinci.rr.com; Elecraft Reflector 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry


 Who sells the Acom 1010? Can't find any dealers with a google search. 
 Sure looks nice.

 Doug -- K0DXV

 Rick Tavan N6XI wrote:
 Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on 
 full
 QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the
 1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes 
 quality.
 For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's
 hard to beat. Very quiet, too.

 /Rick

 On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy jdan...@cinci.rr.com wrote:

 I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it
 daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I 
 enjoy
 the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing 
 DX.
 The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input 
 from
 the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 
 and
 K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an 
 option.
 The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a 
 way to
 integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the 
 smaller
 Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine 
 from
 the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also 
 considered
 the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps.

 I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can
 apprise me of where that has gone.

 Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I
 realize some do not.

 73,  Jim W9VNE
   Cincinnati, Ohio
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Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-12 Thread Brian Alsop

Doug,

Here's what I've gleaned on the 1010

The 1010 is a different beastie from the 1000.  It isn't just a 1000 
without 6M.

1) takes more drive for full output.
2) full output at least a few hundred watts less. (I also believe the 
transformer is not has hefty)

3) an electronicly controlled bias circuit
4) The RF deck is different, it doesn't have the extra shielding the 
1000 has.   This is both a plus (if you change tubes) and a potential 
negative.


It is a good amp for countries with an enforced 400 W power limit.

Unfortunately I can't comment on the amp key circuit or QSK.

73 de Brian/K3KO

Jim Danehy wrote:

Doug

Same problem here finding out anything about sales in North America. All I 
get is a photo of the Acom 1010 and nothing else. A few years ago they were 
being sold by a company in Boston then K6ND now it appears their sales in NA 
are in limbo. That type of instability scares me. I am sure we will get some 
needed feedback on my comments. That is why I am blunt with my comments. 
Need answers based upon facts not guess work.


Jim W9VNE
- Original Message - 
From: Doug Person d...@northroutt.net

To: Rick Tavan N6XI rta...@gmail.com
Cc: Jim Danehy jdan...@cinci.rr.com; Elecraft Reflector 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry



Who sells the Acom 1010? Can't find any dealers with a google search. 
Sure looks nice.


Doug -- K0DXV

Rick Tavan N6XI wrote:

Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on 
full

QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the
1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes 
quality.

For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's
hard to beat. Very quiet, too.

/Rick

On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy jdan...@cinci.rr.com wrote:



I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it
daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I 
enjoy
the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing 
DX.
The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input 
from
the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 
and
K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an 
option.
The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a 
way to
integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the 
smaller
Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine 
from
the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also 
considered

the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps.

I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can
apprise me of where that has gone.

Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I
realize some do not.

73,  Jim W9VNE
 Cincinnati, Ohio
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Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-12 Thread Lyle Johnson
ARRL has reviewed the Acom 1000, 1010 and 2000.  See QST or the ARRL 
website.

The answer to all this discussion is found in this pair of sentences 
from the 1010 review in December, 2006:

So what does the 1010 give up in exchange for its svelte packaging and 
lower price?  The short answer is about 300W output, full break-in CW 
(QSK) and 6 meter coverage.

QST is your friend...

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-12 Thread David Wilburn
Then it would be a, wait for it now.


Little Shack of Horrors

:p

Dave Wilburn
NM4M

Lyle Johnson wrote:
 ARRL has reviewed the Acom 1000, 1010 and 2000.  See QST or the ARRL 
 website.
 
 The answer to all this discussion is found in this pair of sentences 
 from the 1010 review in December, 2006:
 
 So what does the 1010 give up in exchange for its svelte packaging and 
 lower price?  The short answer is about 300W output, full break-in CW 
 (QSK) and 6 meter coverage.
 
 QST is your friend...
 
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
 
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Re: [Elecraft] qsk options inquiry

2009-08-12 Thread cx7tt
I have the Acom 1000 and use it with the K3/100 (#250)...full QSK, no
problems at all with keying,(up to 44wpm) etc. I got it in 2004. I have
made over 15000 Qs with many of these Qs during contest operations,
phone, cw and rtty. I do crank it back to 500w out when running rtty so
as to run a little cooler. If you like computer controlled amps, this is
a remarkable little amp, very quiet and puts out about 600w or so. It is
NOT a 1000w amp...the specs on the tube the 4CX800 say plate dissipation
is 800w...plug in typical efficiency and that will put it down around
600wto 680wMy LP-100 shows 800w peak and my Bird shows around
600-650w (key dwn) output into Steppir 3 ele yagi. Not sure that anyone
could tell the difference over the air if power was 1000w or 600w. 
Not sure about the marketing of the amp now...did Array Solutions or DX
Eng pick up the line in the US?
A recent email to K6ND (US rep) garnered a response from a technician in
LZ land. 
All in all, I like the amp and would recommend one to someone in the US
or EU. 
73
Tom
CX7TT
 
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Re: [Elecraft] qsk options inquiry

2009-08-12 Thread Brendan Minish
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 16:50 -0300, cx...@4email.net wrote:
 I have the Acom 1000

...snip... 
 this is
 a remarkable little amp, very quiet and puts out about 600w or so. It is
 NOT a 1000w amp...the specs on the tube the 4CX800 say plate dissipation
 is 800w...plug in typical efficiency and that will put it down around
 600wto 680wMy LP-100 shows 800w peak and my Bird shows around
 600-650w (key dwn) output into Steppir 3 ele yagi.

I have run my Acom1000 at a measured 1kw out on 6m for JT6M, this is a
high duty mode (100% keydown, 1 minute on  1 minute off) which is, I am
sure pretty hard on tube life but no issues so far where the tube is
concerned. I have had this amp since late 2001 so it's an early model.  
The ACOM 1k runs hot but well within it's rated temp ratings @1Kw high
duty cycle. Keep the dust filter at the back well cleaned and ensure
that the exhaust vent is free. 

I measured a little over 1100 watts into a Dummy load on most bands.
My measurement is based on a Dummy load and an LP-100 calibrated against
a Rohde  Schwarz power sensor borrowed from work 

the power meter on the acom 1k can be a little optimistic, reading
around 1300W for 1050W into the dummy load ;-) 

if you are only getting ~ 600W out of your Acom 1k you may want to
check that the transformer taps are set correctly for your line voltage
and that your shack supply is not 'sagging' too much on keydown 

73
Brendan EI6IZ 
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Brendan EI6IZ 

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[Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-11 Thread Jim Danehy
I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it daily. 
I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I enjoy the Ten Tec 
transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing DX. The purpose of 
this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input from the Elecraft 
community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 and K3. I also see 
that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an option. The QSK box from 
Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a way to integrate my 
Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the smaller Hercules II. I 
have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine from the Internet 
whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also considered the smaller 600 
to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps. 

I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can apprise 
me of where that has gone.

Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I realize 
some do not. 

73,  Jim W9VNE
  Cincinnati, Ohio
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Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-11 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on full
QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the
1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes quality.
For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's
hard to beat. Very quiet, too.

/Rick

On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy jdan...@cinci.rr.com wrote:

 I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it
 daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I enjoy
 the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing DX.
 The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input from
 the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 and
 K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an option.
 The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a way to
 integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the smaller
 Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine from
 the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also considered
 the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps.

 I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can
 apprise me of where that has gone.

 Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I
 realize some do not.

 73,  Jim W9VNE
   Cincinnati, Ohio
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[Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-11 Thread Ken Kopp
And Rose has made a number of ACOM covers, so she has the
logo worked out . (:-))

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
  elecraftcov...@rfwave.net

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Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on 
full
QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of 
the
1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes 
quality.
For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's
hard to beat. Very quiet, too.

/Rick

On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy jdan...@cinci.rr.com wrote:

 I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate 
 it
 daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I 
 enjoy 

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Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-11 Thread Doug Person
Who sells the Acom 1010? Can't find any dealers with a google search.  
Sure looks nice.

Doug -- K0DXV

Rick Tavan N6XI wrote:
 Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on full
 QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the
 1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes quality.
 For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's
 hard to beat. Very quiet, too.

 /Rick

 On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy jdan...@cinci.rr.com wrote:
   
 I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it
 daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I enjoy
 the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing DX.
 The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input from
 the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 and
 K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an option.
 The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a way to
 integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the smaller
 Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine from
 the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also considered
 the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps.

 I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can
 apprise me of where that has gone.

 Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I
 realize some do not.

 73,  Jim W9VNE
   Cincinnati, Ohio
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Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-11 Thread .k8dd.
http://www.arraysolutions.com/Products/acom.htm

Doug Person wrote:
 Who sells the Acom 1010? Can't find any dealers with a google search.  
 Sure looks nice.
 
 Doug -- K0DXV
 
 Rick Tavan N6XI wrote:
 Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on full
 QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the
 1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes quality.
 For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's
 hard to beat. Very quiet, too.

 /Rick



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Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry

2009-08-11 Thread Ken Kopp
Hi Doug,

Check the Array Solutions website ...

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