Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial
Neill Taylor wrote: It does seem to use the Prolific chip, judging by messages I saw as the driver was installing. One thing to note here is that Prolific are obviously a B2B (business to business) supplier. When they say that they can't supply drivers to consumers, they don't mean that the driver doesn't exist but just that their business model is not set up to provide things directly to consumers. (Some such vendors will make drivers available for download, which is generally OK as long the OEM cannot cutomise the relevant parts of the hardware. Also, interestingly a lot of Windows drivers aren't really drivers, but rather parameter files that tell the real driver that a particular USB ID requires, for example, a USB serial driver.) -- David Woolley The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio List Guidelines http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial
If I may return to the original topic: Ken asked about experience of connecting a K3 via a USB port to Vista. My experience is wholly positive. I picked up a standard USB-to-serial adaptor at my local supermarket while doing my grocery shopping. It cost under 25 euros. Plugged it into my laptop running Vista, it automatically downloaded the driver from the MS Windows Update site and works perfectly with the K3. It does seem to use the Prolific chip, judging by messages I saw as the driver was installing. 73 Neill F5VLD / G4HLX K2 #2425 K3 #289 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Real serial ports are always better. Next new computer I build will more than likely not have good old fashioned serial ports. I will purchase an expansion card to get them. I'm one of those IT types. My company won't be going to Vista anytime soon and it's a BIG company. MS may have run out the string on this one. They may be shoving it down consumers necks on every PC purchased, but those that have a choice are sticking with XP. Just bought the wife a new Dell. It was in the house 15 minutes before I'd started wiping the drive and loading XP. I have a Vista machine (enterprise) on my desk at work. I use it for email. All my real work gets done with XP Pro and Linux. Lee Buller wrote: | | Ken, | | The way I read the Vista warningyou are on your own. | | Vista has so many problems that I cannot tell you what kind of headache it is for IT people. I know many IT shops are just not going to Vista although many home computers are beings shipped with Vista. I don't know if that is because the Gorilla says so, or what. | | I am using the USB adapter from Elecraft with XP and have no trouble communicating with the rig. Always works through the update and through other programs...N1MM Logger...HRD...etc. | | I would also advise you that going serial to serial is a good bet as Don W. expressed here on the reflector. | | But with Vistait is a crap shoot from my experience with the product. I will not go to it until there is at least Service Pack 2 or 3. | | YMMV | | Lee - K0Wa - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH9iAZ11jxjloa2wsRAn1PAJ4/mjiY3gdeTPn5JUtEVm4LeanctwCeMQ6R 9Nk1YMJhUgC7ES2X6iq2ils= =UM+A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial
Yep same here, except the only place we have Vista is inside a fire- walled eng. lab - you know, we are spraying water on the wall all the time ! :-) -- The high minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think. -Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE) On 4 Apr 2008, at 13:33, R. Kevin Stover wrote: I have a Vista machine (enterprise) on my desk at work. I use it for email. All my real work gets done with XP Pro and Linux. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial
Whereas I have to test my *free* software on W2K, XP and VISTA. At least Windows 95/98/SE/ME is dead and buried :-) Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep same here, except the only place we have Vista is inside a fire- walled eng. lab - you know, we are spraying water on the wall all the time ! :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to serial
Ken, Use the real serial port if you can. They are always more reliable than the adapters. If you must use the adapter, make certain you have the latest drivers. 73, Don W3FPR Ken wrote: I am wondering which way to plan for K3 updates -- USB port or serial port on your computer. I am concerned about XP or Vista software being up to date for supporting the USB port. Maybe someone with more experience can interpret the cryptic notes on the K3 software page related ot prolific. See the big red IMPORTANT and the related URL for prolific. Ken K5WK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re:[elecraft]KUSB to serial
It says in the prolific website that Prolific will not be providing Vista drivers for end users. Please contact the vendor ... etc. I want to use KUSB with a Vista pc. What do I do Elecraft ! 73 Bryan GM3AKF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [elecraft]KUSB to serial
I got my Vista drivers from Microsoft Update when I first plugged in the KUSB. Here's what I put into K3 Utility Help on this subject: Microsoft Windows Vista users can obtain an acceptable device driver from Microsoft's Windows Update service when the KUSB is first plugged in. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:13 AM To: Elecraft Subject: Re:[elecraft]KUSB to serial It says in the prolific website that Prolific will not be providing Vista drivers for end users. Please contact the vendor ... etc. I want to use KUSB with a Vista pc. What do I do Elecraft ! 73 Bryan GM3AKF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial
Ken, The way I read the Vista warningyou are on your own. Vista has so many problems that I cannot tell you what kind of headache it is for IT people. I know many IT shops are just not going to Vista although many home computers are beings shipped with Vista. I don't know if that is because the Gorilla says so, or what. I am using the USB adapter from Elecraft with XP and have no trouble communicating with the rig. Always works through the update and through other programs...N1MM Logger...HRD...etc. I would also advise you that going serial to serial is a good bet as Don W. expressed here on the reflector. But with Vistait is a crap shoot from my experience with the product. I will not go to it until there is at least Service Pack 2 or 3. YMMV Lee - K0Wa In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [elecraft]KUSB to serial
Bryan, If that PC is a desktop, purchase a real serial port card and install it. Much more reliable than any adapter. I know that does not answer the Vista driver situation - someone else will have to answer that question, but if that is the true situation, I would guess that drivers will eventually be available for download from the Elecraft website - it seems like that is the only way the problem could be resolved. 73, Don W3FPR Bryan wrote: It says in the prolific website that Prolific will not be providing Vista drivers for end users. Please contact the vendor ... etc. I want to use KUSB with a Vista pc. What do I do Elecraft ! 73 Bryan GM3AKF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial
If your machine has a PCMCIA slot, you might consider skipping the adapter entirely and using a PCMCIA card that provides a standard RS232 serial interface. If course, many desktop machines have expansion slots available where you can add an internal RS232 port card. I guess I got lucky with a $30 USB/RS232 adapter from Radio Shack (RS 26-183). It works on all the machines I've tried with no problems, but I'm running Windows Xp on them. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:12 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial Bill, I realized all of that, but my real concern is the note that said Prolific is not going to supply Vista drivers - contact your cable manufacturer. It makes me nervour about using KUSB cables. Sometimes progress makes things too complex, and the oldfashioned way is best. Ken ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial
It might be helpful to know what computer folks are using when they indicate problems with a KUSB or other USB to serial device. I have several of these devices, and some work with some computers but not with others. I think it is as much as problem with specific computers as it is with the operating system. I have mentioned this before, but I seem to have more luck with a couple of Belkin USB/serial adapters than with most others. The two I have are models F5U109 and F5U409. I think at least one of these was intended for use with PDA's, but it sure works on my laptops. Furthermore, Belkin does have updated drivers for Vista for these two adapters. A couple of my laptops (mine and my wife's) are newer, and have Vista, much to my chagrine. But I use mine to update my K3, and it has no problem doing so. I had lots of trouble with a couple of older Sony computers when I needed to connect serial devices to them. The Belkins worked, but others didn't. Also, a Toshiba laptop which I replaced last year with a new HP, balked a good bit on setting up the one or more of the other adapters. But the Belkins again seemed to work best. One thing you must make sure of is that your computer is looking at the right comm port. That was an almost constant problem when I tried hooking up an Icom PC1000. If you go to Control Panel, and then to Device Manager, you can view the setup your computer has made for the USB adapter. See what port the adapter is looking at, and what the K3 is wanting. You can probably change your computer's selection to match if it isn't matched already. I may be wrong, but I think ports 3 or 4 are your best bets typically. You can also adjust the transfer speed at this point. Also if, when you go to Device Manager and check your USB adapter settings, you see a little yellow flag over the device listing, you probably have a driver issue, and the device is not properly installed. That's a bigger problem, and you will undoubtedly need to either try reinstalling, or find better drivers. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB to Serial Ken, The way I read the Vista warningyou are on your own. Vista has so many problems that I cannot tell you what kind of headache it is for IT people. I know many IT shops are just not going to Vista although many home computers are beings shipped with Vista. I don't know if that is because the Gorilla says so, or what. I am using the USB adapter from Elecraft with XP and have no trouble communicating with the rig. Always works through the update and through other programs...N1MM Logger...HRD...etc. I would also advise you that going serial to serial is a good bet as Don W. expressed here on the reflector. But with Vistait is a crap shoot from my experience with the product. I will not go to it until there is at least Service Pack 2 or 3. YMMV Lee - K0Wa In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter?
Bob, No you do not have to buy the adapter from Elecraft. You can buy the one from Elecraft that is known to work, or you can buy the $2 one and see if it works - some may, some may not, it is a gamble. That ine from Ebay likely has some shipping charges with it too, so it will cost you perhaps $7 by the time you are done. One can buy only 6 of the inexpensive adapters to try before expending more than the cost of the Elecraft 'known to work' model. The choice is entirely yours. I would suggest a better solution for those who are using a standard PC (one that will accept adapter cards), the you purchase an add-on serial card. That is a more reliable (and less hassle) solution than depending on USB to serial adapters. A PCI card with 2 serial ports can be found in the $25 price range. 73, Don W3FPR Bob wrote: Must we pay $39 for Elecraft's KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter, or will one for $2 as seen offered through Ebay work? Thanks ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter?
It depends on the adapter and what you want to use it for. If you are just looking for data transfer, I would think just about any aftermarket adapter will work. Some do not implement the full st of control lines. So if you want to use PTT or CW, there *may* be a problem. I am not saying there will be one. I use a somewhat generic adapter when I need the USB port and it works fine for data, CW, and PTT. At 12/1/2007 02:22 PM, Dave G4AON wrote: You pay your money and you take your chances! I don't need one for my K3 as I use the shack computer with 8 real serial ports. For portable use (with other gear), I have a couple of USB to serial adapters on a Toshiba laptop that work well, they were about the equivalent of $30 US. I bought two of the same brand as it drives me mad trying to cope with Windoze trying to install drivers all the time when you plug an adapter into a different USB port to the one it was set-up to use initially. The other gear mentioned above is a Nokia 3210i phone used as a GPRS modem and a TS-480, for our UK readers the USB to serial adapters were from Maplin. 73 Dave G4AON ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter?
Bob wrote: Must we pay $39 for Elecraft's KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter, or will one for $2 as seen offered through Ebay work? Maybe. And how much is the shipping/handling? -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter?
Depends I put mine in the PC and it worked first time . These are very difficult beasts sometimes ... It was easier to throw in the box with the rest of the K3 bits for me! Less hassle too! Simon Lewis GM4PLM/DL4PLM http://www.dl4plm.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO Sent: Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007 20:52 To: Bob Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter? Bob wrote: Must we pay $39 for Elecraft's KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter, or will one for $2 as seen offered through Ebay work? Maybe. And how much is the shipping/handling? -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter?
I use IO Gear GUC 232A - got it at local computer shop - works perfectly with K3 and K2 in all modes. Don't remember the price. YMMV. 73 -- Don N4HH K3 #83 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:52 PM To: Bob Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter? Bob wrote: Must we pay $39 for Elecraft's KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter, or will one for $2 as seen offered through Ebay work? Maybe. And how much is the shipping/handling? -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
