Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
Yes, that is exactly why I haven’t pasted the handy label inside the lid of my Altoids tin. Unfortunately, the instructions are an image in a PDF, so I’ll need to create a label from scratch. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Mar 14, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote: > > On 2022-03-14 14:26, Walter Underwood wrote: >> I built this code practice oscillator, nice kit. I glued some brass >> standoffs into an Altoids tin for a case. >> https://www.nfarl.org/kits/ > > Looks like a nice kit for a beginner. Shame it shows dots and dashes for the > morse code instead of dits and dahs to help people learn it by sound. I first > started learning code with a CPO that also had the letters with their dots > and dashes. I blame that for hampering may ability to handle higher speed > code. It gets one in to the habit of an extra translation step of sound to > dots/dashes then letter/number instead of sound to letter/number. > > -- > Cheers! > > Kevin. > > http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that > https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and >| that's why we're powerful" > Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | > #include | --Chris Hardwick > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
On 2022-03-14 14:26, Walter Underwood wrote: I built this code practice oscillator, nice kit. I glued some brass standoffs into an Altoids tin for a case. https://www.nfarl.org/kits/ Looks like a nice kit for a beginner. Shame it shows dots and dashes for the morse code instead of dits and dahs to help people learn it by sound. I first started learning code with a CPO that also had the letters with their dots and dashes. I blame that for hampering may ability to handle higher speed code. It gets one in to the habit of an extra translation step of sound to dots/dashes then letter/number instead of sound to letter/number. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
I built this code practice oscillator, nice kit. I glued some brass standoffs into an Altoids tin for a case. https://www.nfarl.org/kits/ Evil Mad Scientist Laboratories makes some nice beginner kits, like the flickery flame series. https://shop.evilmadscientist.com/directory#soldering wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Mar 14, 2022, at 10:14 AM, jerry wrote: > > On 2022-03-14 08:19, Douglas Hagerman via Elecraft wrote: >> I think a K2 would not be a great project for most 8 year olds. >> However, a simpler (and cheaper) kit like this one from MFJ should be >> within a beginner skill level, given some reasonable coaching. (Also a >> soldering station to avoid soldering iron frustration!) > I keep meaning to show him how to solder. Don't want him to get burned > though. > > Some simple project with blinking lights.I also have a crystal radio that > I built > for him. Plan to take it apart and bundle it into a "kit" for him to put > together. > > At this point in his development, he is more interested in "how things look", > rather > than "how they work". He quickly gets impatient when I try to show him > schematics. > > We have soldering irons up the kazoo. The best one is an XYtronics LF-3200 > - it's > a 120W soldering station with an RF-powered iron. Just like a Metcal, only > without > the Metcal price. That sucker heats up in about 10 seconds. > >- Jerry KF6VB > > > > >> https://mfjenterprises.com/collections/kit/products/vec-1340k >> <https://mfjenterprises.com/collections/kit/products/vec-1340k> >> Which raises a question: what other similar kits are still around? As >> far as I know, the ones from the good old days (1990s) are defunct. >> Doug, W0UHU >> --- >> Message: 22 >> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 17:44:50 -0400 >> From: Kevin Cozens mailto:ke...@ve3syb.ca>> >> To: K2 mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability >> Message-ID: <3006cfa4-f73e-efa0-93a2-f70717f91...@ve3syb.ca >> <mailto:3006cfa4-f73e-efa0-93a2-f70717f91...@ve3syb.ca>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> On 2022-03-13 15:13, jerry wrote: >>> My 8 y/o son has been lusting after an $800 Lego kit. A walking Star >>> Wars tank. It has something like 8000 pieces. I explained to my wife >>> that it would reasonably keep him busy for a whole week. But she didn't >>> see the logic :). So we bought him a simpler kit with 1200 pieces that >>> will keep him busy for one day. >> I don't know whether the K2 or the $800 Lego kit would take less time to >> build but he will learn some new skills assembling the K2. The K2 could >> spark an interest that could last a lifetime where the walking Star Wars >> tank could be forgotten in a few months. >> -- >> Cheers! >> Kevin. >> http://www.ve3syb.ca/ <http://www.ve3syb.ca/> | "Nerds >> make the shiny things that >> https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens >> <https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens> | distract the mouth-breathers, >> and >>| that's why we're powerful" >> Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | >> #include | --Chris Hardwick >> - >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to je...@tr2.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
On 2022-03-14 08:19, Douglas Hagerman via Elecraft wrote: I think a K2 would not be a great project for most 8 year olds. However, a simpler (and cheaper) kit like this one from MFJ should be within a beginner skill level, given some reasonable coaching. (Also a soldering station to avoid soldering iron frustration!) I keep meaning to show him how to solder. Don't want him to get burned though. Some simple project with blinking lights.I also have a crystal radio that I built for him. Plan to take it apart and bundle it into a "kit" for him to put together. At this point in his development, he is more interested in "how things look", rather than "how they work". He quickly gets impatient when I try to show him schematics. We have soldering irons up the kazoo. The best one is an XYtronics LF-3200 - it's a 120W soldering station with an RF-powered iron. Just like a Metcal, only without the Metcal price. That sucker heats up in about 10 seconds. - Jerry KF6VB https://mfjenterprises.com/collections/kit/products/vec-1340k <https://mfjenterprises.com/collections/kit/products/vec-1340k> Which raises a question: what other similar kits are still around? As far as I know, the ones from the good old days (1990s) are defunct. Doug, W0UHU --- Message: 22 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 17:44:50 -0400 From: Kevin Cozens mailto:ke...@ve3syb.ca>> To: K2 mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability Message-ID: <3006cfa4-f73e-efa0-93a2-f70717f91...@ve3syb.ca <mailto:3006cfa4-f73e-efa0-93a2-f70717f91...@ve3syb.ca>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 2022-03-13 15:13, jerry wrote: My 8 y/o son has been lusting after an $800 Lego kit. A walking Star Wars tank. It has something like 8000 pieces. I explained to my wife that it would reasonably keep him busy for a whole week. But she didn't see the logic :). So we bought him a simpler kit with 1200 pieces that will keep him busy for one day. I don't know whether the K2 or the $800 Lego kit would take less time to build but he will learn some new skills assembling the K2. The K2 could spark an interest that could last a lifetime where the walking Star Wars tank could be forgotten in a few months. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ <http://www.ve3syb.ca/> | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens <https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens> | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
I think a K2 would not be a great project for most 8 year olds. However, a simpler (and cheaper) kit like this one from MFJ should be within a beginner skill level, given some reasonable coaching. (Also a soldering station to avoid soldering iron frustration!) https://mfjenterprises.com/collections/kit/products/vec-1340k <https://mfjenterprises.com/collections/kit/products/vec-1340k> Which raises a question: what other similar kits are still around? As far as I know, the ones from the good old days (1990s) are defunct. Doug, W0UHU --- Message: 22 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 17:44:50 -0400 From: Kevin Cozens mailto:ke...@ve3syb.ca>> To: K2 mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability Message-ID: <3006cfa4-f73e-efa0-93a2-f70717f91...@ve3syb.ca <mailto:3006cfa4-f73e-efa0-93a2-f70717f91...@ve3syb.ca>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 2022-03-13 15:13, jerry wrote: > My 8 y/o son has been lusting after an $800 Lego kit. A walking Star > Wars tank. It has something like 8000 pieces. I explained to my wife > that it would reasonably keep him busy for a whole week. But she didn't > see the logic :). So we bought him a simpler kit with 1200 pieces that > will keep him busy for one day. I don't know whether the K2 or the $800 Lego kit would take less time to build but he will learn some new skills assembling the K2. The K2 could spark an interest that could last a lifetime where the walking Star Wars tank could be forgotten in a few months. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ <http://www.ve3syb.ca/> | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens <https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens> | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
On 2022-03-13 15:13, jerry wrote: My 8 y/o son has been lusting after an $800 Lego kit. A walking Star Wars tank. It has something like 8000 pieces. I explained to my wife that it would reasonably keep him busy for a whole week. But she didn't see the logic :). So we bought him a simpler kit with 1200 pieces that will keep him busy for one day. I don't know whether the K2 or the $800 Lego kit would take less time to build but he will learn some new skills assembling the K2. The K2 could spark an interest that could last a lifetime where the walking Star Wars tank could be forgotten in a few months. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
On 2022-03-13 12:19, eda...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Ah, to be 8 again. *** It's not all beer and skittles. My Max has had a tough time the past few years. Due to COVID. Hiding in the house. No friends. He did not get to play with any other child for over a year. Back in April of 2020, he cried like a baby when I told him that there would be no summer school. When they sent him home in March of 2020, I immediately went onto Amazon and got the biggest set of "Snap Circuits". I also bought a paid subscription to Zoom, so he could have virtual visits with his friends. - Jerry KF6VB Even better, to be 8 with a Dad who understands . . . -Original Message- From: jerry Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2022 1:14 PM To: eda...@aya.yale.edu Cc: 'George Thornton' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability My 8 y/o son has been lusting after an $800 Lego kit. A walking Star Wars tank. It has something like 8000 pieces. I explained to my wife that it would reasonably keep him busy for a whole week. But she didn't see the logic :). So we bought him a simpler kit with 1200 pieces that will keep him busy for one day. - Jerry KF6VB On 2022-01-28 13:49, eda...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Same here. For me the build is most of the fun. To put it in perspective: My daughter once told me that when her son, my grandson, was 8, he was a Leggo kit wiz. He would finish a $50 Leggo kit in a morning, a $75 kit in a long afternoon. She said it was costing her nearly $20 an hour to keep him occupied. Since I take my time with the K2 build, my cost per hour is less than what it costs to keep an eight year-old amused. And to the same effect. Ted, KN1CBR -Original Message- From: George Thornton Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:41 PM To: eda...@aya.yale.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability As a former K2 owner I can say at least half the fun of one of these was to build it myself. This is one of the last kinds of major kits that involve assembling all the components onto a circuit board. Today with all the surface mount devices the technical challenge is too much for most of us and kits largely become a mechanical assembly of already completed circuit boards. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of eda...@aya.yale.edu Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 1:35 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability I don't know the answer to the question though I agree with someone else who said they are different commodities. However, in the long run an unopened kit may be worth a small fortune, like some unopened games and Barbie dolls are. The K2 deliveries are presently TBD . . . I have one (my fifth) on order and no ESD is posted. I assume it's a parts problem. The K2 has already had a number of small component modifications made as the traditional parts have become unobtainable or uneconomic. If it were possible to place an order for the final five S/Ns, whenever that happens, I'd pay for them today. What say, Wayne -- will you make me that deal? Ted, KN1CBR Message: 18 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:23:45 -0500 From: KJ To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability Message-ID: <4f2b806a-73f8-4d97-9dd5-3af7ecc6a...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, Does anyone have experience as far as which is more marketable? Assembled or unassembled? Is there a price difference in posting either for sale? Thanks! Ken, W2GIW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
Ah, to be 8 again. Even better, to be 8 with a Dad who understands . . . -Original Message- From: jerry Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2022 1:14 PM To: eda...@aya.yale.edu Cc: 'George Thornton' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability My 8 y/o son has been lusting after an $800 Lego kit. A walking Star Wars tank. It has something like 8000 pieces. I explained to my wife that it would reasonably keep him busy for a whole week. But she didn't see the logic :). So we bought him a simpler kit with 1200 pieces that will keep him busy for one day. - Jerry KF6VB On 2022-01-28 13:49, eda...@aya.yale.edu wrote: > Same here. For me the build is most of the fun. To put it in > perspective: > My daughter once told me that when her son, my grandson, was 8, he was > a Leggo kit wiz. He would finish a $50 Leggo kit in a morning, a $75 > kit in a long afternoon. She said it was costing her nearly $20 an > hour to keep him occupied. Since I take my time with the K2 build, my > cost per hour is less than what it costs to keep an eight year-old > amused. And to the same effect. > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > > > -Original Message- > From: George Thornton > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:41 PM > To: eda...@aya.yale.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability > > As a former K2 owner I can say at least half the fun of one of these > was to build it myself. > > This is one of the last kinds of major kits that involve assembling > all the components onto a circuit board. Today with all the surface > mount devices the technical challenge is too much for most of us and > kits largely become a mechanical assembly of already completed circuit > boards. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On > Behalf Of eda...@aya.yale.edu > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 1:35 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability > > I don't know the answer to the question though I agree with someone > else who > said they are different commodities. However, in the long run an > unopened > kit may be worth a small fortune, like some unopened games and Barbie > dolls > are. The K2 deliveries are presently TBD . . . I have one (my fifth) > on > order and no ESD is posted. I assume it's a parts problem. The K2 has > already had a number of small component modifications made as the > traditional parts have become unobtainable or uneconomic. If it were > possible to place an order for the final five S/Ns, whenever that > happens, > I'd pay for them today. What say, Wayne -- will you make me that deal? > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > Message: 18 > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:23:45 -0500 > From: KJ > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability > Message-ID: <4f2b806a-73f8-4d97-9dd5-3af7ecc6a...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello all, > Does anyone have experience as far as which is more marketable? > Assembled or unassembled? Is there a price difference in posting either > for > sale? > Thanks! > Ken, W2GIW > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
My 8 y/o son has been lusting after an $800 Lego kit. A walking Star Wars tank. It has something like 8000 pieces. I explained to my wife that it would reasonably keep him busy for a whole week. But she didn't see the logic :). So we bought him a simpler kit with 1200 pieces that will keep him busy for one day. - Jerry KF6VB On 2022-01-28 13:49, eda...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Same here. For me the build is most of the fun. To put it in perspective: My daughter once told me that when her son, my grandson, was 8, he was a Leggo kit wiz. He would finish a $50 Leggo kit in a morning, a $75 kit in a long afternoon. She said it was costing her nearly $20 an hour to keep him occupied. Since I take my time with the K2 build, my cost per hour is less than what it costs to keep an eight year-old amused. And to the same effect. Ted, KN1CBR -Original Message- From: George Thornton Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:41 PM To: eda...@aya.yale.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability As a former K2 owner I can say at least half the fun of one of these was to build it myself. This is one of the last kinds of major kits that involve assembling all the components onto a circuit board. Today with all the surface mount devices the technical challenge is too much for most of us and kits largely become a mechanical assembly of already completed circuit boards. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of eda...@aya.yale.edu Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 1:35 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability I don't know the answer to the question though I agree with someone else who said they are different commodities. However, in the long run an unopened kit may be worth a small fortune, like some unopened games and Barbie dolls are. The K2 deliveries are presently TBD . . . I have one (my fifth) on order and no ESD is posted. I assume it's a parts problem. The K2 has already had a number of small component modifications made as the traditional parts have become unobtainable or uneconomic. If it were possible to place an order for the final five S/Ns, whenever that happens, I'd pay for them today. What say, Wayne -- will you make me that deal? Ted, KN1CBR Message: 18 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:23:45 -0500 From: KJ To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability Message-ID: <4f2b806a-73f8-4d97-9dd5-3af7ecc6a...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, Does anyone have experience as far as which is more marketable? Assembled or unassembled? Is there a price difference in posting either for sale? Thanks! Ken, W2GIW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
I agree with both Ted and George about building is half the fun, I built several dozen K2s, K1s, and KX1s for myself and others. There is great satisfaction in completing a build to have it powered up and receive those first signals as well as making that first contact. I still enjoy using the K2 on the air, I like the sound of the receiver. Back in the late 70s early 80s I was in a discussion with them and said that soon the 100watt transceivers would be the size of the CB sets. They weren’t sure as they would sit in front of there Ts850s, Ft101s, and other such rigs at the time. Then along came the K2 and as a treat you get to assemble and align it your self, what a great opportunity to learn about the inner workings of HF transceivers. 73, Skip Davis, NC9O Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
Too late folks I've already bought and paid for it. Hi Hi.. Ed.. AB4IQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of George Thornton Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:41 PM To: eda...@aya.yale.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability As a former K2 owner I can say at least half the fun of one of these was to build it myself. This is one of the last kinds of major kits that involve assembling all the components onto a circuit board. Today with all the surface mount devices the technical challenge is too much for most of us and kits largely become a mechanical assembly of already completed circuit boards. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of eda...@aya.yale.edu Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 1:35 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability I don't know the answer to the question though I agree with someone else who said they are different commodities. However, in the long run an unopened kit may be worth a small fortune, like some unopened games and Barbie dolls are. The K2 deliveries are presently TBD . . . I have one (my fifth) on order and no ESD is posted. I assume it's a parts problem. The K2 has already had a number of small component modifications made as the traditional parts have become unobtainable or uneconomic. If it were possible to place an order for the final five S/Ns, whenever that happens, I'd pay for them today. What say, Wayne -- will you make me that deal? Ted, KN1CBR Message: 18 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:23:45 -0500 From: KJ To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability Message-ID: <4f2b806a-73f8-4d97-9dd5-3af7ecc6a...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, Does anyone have experience as far as which is more marketable? Assembled or unassembled? Is there a price difference in posting either for sale? Thanks! Ken, W2GIW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ab...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
Same here. For me the build is most of the fun. To put it in perspective: My daughter once told me that when her son, my grandson, was 8, he was a Leggo kit wiz. He would finish a $50 Leggo kit in a morning, a $75 kit in a long afternoon. She said it was costing her nearly $20 an hour to keep him occupied. Since I take my time with the K2 build, my cost per hour is less than what it costs to keep an eight year-old amused. And to the same effect. Ted, KN1CBR -Original Message- From: George Thornton Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:41 PM To: eda...@aya.yale.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability As a former K2 owner I can say at least half the fun of one of these was to build it myself. This is one of the last kinds of major kits that involve assembling all the components onto a circuit board. Today with all the surface mount devices the technical challenge is too much for most of us and kits largely become a mechanical assembly of already completed circuit boards. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of eda...@aya.yale.edu Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 1:35 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability I don't know the answer to the question though I agree with someone else who said they are different commodities. However, in the long run an unopened kit may be worth a small fortune, like some unopened games and Barbie dolls are. The K2 deliveries are presently TBD . . . I have one (my fifth) on order and no ESD is posted. I assume it's a parts problem. The K2 has already had a number of small component modifications made as the traditional parts have become unobtainable or uneconomic. If it were possible to place an order for the final five S/Ns, whenever that happens, I'd pay for them today. What say, Wayne -- will you make me that deal? Ted, KN1CBR Message: 18 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:23:45 -0500 From: KJ To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability Message-ID: <4f2b806a-73f8-4d97-9dd5-3af7ecc6a...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, Does anyone have experience as far as which is more marketable? Assembled or unassembled? Is there a price difference in posting either for sale? Thanks! Ken, W2GIW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
As a former K2 owner I can say at least half the fun of one of these was to build it myself. This is one of the last kinds of major kits that involve assembling all the components onto a circuit board. Today with all the surface mount devices the technical challenge is too much for most of us and kits largely become a mechanical assembly of already completed circuit boards. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of eda...@aya.yale.edu Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 1:35 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability I don't know the answer to the question though I agree with someone else who said they are different commodities. However, in the long run an unopened kit may be worth a small fortune, like some unopened games and Barbie dolls are. The K2 deliveries are presently TBD . . . I have one (my fifth) on order and no ESD is posted. I assume it's a parts problem. The K2 has already had a number of small component modifications made as the traditional parts have become unobtainable or uneconomic. If it were possible to place an order for the final five S/Ns, whenever that happens, I'd pay for them today. What say, Wayne -- will you make me that deal? Ted, KN1CBR Message: 18 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:23:45 -0500 From: KJ To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability Message-ID: <4f2b806a-73f8-4d97-9dd5-3af7ecc6a...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, Does anyone have experience as far as which is more marketable? Assembled or unassembled? Is there a price difference in posting either for sale? Thanks! Ken, W2GIW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unassembled K2 Vs Assembled Marketability
My 2 cents is that each appeals to two different markets. Some love to build kits and what better kit than a K2 and some hate the idea of building something. I hesitate to share this but I think parting out a K2 and selling boards etc (SSB, ATU etc) while a hassle for the seller can possibly yield more money. I ended up buying a complete K2 enclosure which I have no idea what I will do with but I know from past purchases of enclosures that they can be pricey and never quite the size you want. Paul Gacek W6PNG/M0SNA www.nomadic.blog > On Jan 28, 2022, at 7:25 AM, KJ wrote: > > Hello all, > Does anyone have experience as far as which is more marketable? > Assembled or unassembled? Is there a price difference in posting either for > sale? > Thanks! > Ken, W2GIW > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to paul.ga...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
