Re: [Election-Methods] Local representation

2008-07-17 Thread raphfrk
Juho wrote: I can see three different local/personal representation concepts here. (just to clarify my thoughts, and maybe help some others too)? I think a?better way of?breaking down those options would be based on the how the seats are allocated.? The whole regional/national/district

Re: [Election-Methods] A Better Version of IRV? (Forest)

2008-07-17 Thread Chris Benham
Forest, The voter ranks all she wants to and the remaining candidates are ranked (later, i.e. below) by the voter's favorite or perhaps, as Steve Eppley has suggested, by the voter's specified public ranking. Since IRV satisfies LNH, what's the harm in this?. The harm is that voter's

Re: [Election-Methods] Local representation

2008-07-17 Thread Diego Santos
2008/7/17 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Juho wrote: I can see three different local/personal representation concepts here. (just to clarify my thoughts, and maybe help some others too) I think a better way of breaking down those options would be based on the how the seats are allocated. The whole

Re: [Election-Methods] Election-Methods Digest, Vol 49, Issue 19

2008-07-17 Thread fsimmons
Juho wrote... I link this to the problems in Fiji http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Voting_system_of_Fiji. In some circumstances the voters don't seem to check where their votes will go. If you read the article carefully, you will see that the complaints were not from the voters whose

[Election-Methods] a strategy-free range voting variant?

2008-07-17 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear folks, some time ago we discussed shortly whether it was possible to design a strategy-free ratings-based method, that is, a method where voters give ratings and never have any incentive to misrepresent their true ratings. If I remember right, the methods that were discussed then were only

Re: [Election-Methods] Local representation

2008-07-17 Thread Juho
On Jul 17, 2008, at 18:38 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see three different local/personal representation concepts here. (just to clarify my thoughts, and maybe help some others too) I think a better way of breaking down those options would be based on the how the seats are allocated.

Re: [Election-Methods] Local representation

2008-07-17 Thread Juho
I think already the basic open list provides a quite strong link between candidates and voters. Voters will decide which candidates will be elected, not the party (this is an important detail). (Extensions are needed to provide proportionality between different subgroups of the party.)

Re: [Election-Methods] A Better Version of IRV?

2008-07-17 Thread Juho
On Jul 17, 2008, at 20:10 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris: Truncation should be allowed, so no-one has to fill out rankings if they don't want to. Total agreement there. My suggestion is to try to adapt an idea from information theory: when designing a system for conveying information

Re: [Election-Methods] Election-Methods Digest, Vol 49, Issue 19

2008-07-17 Thread Juho
On Jul 17, 2008, at 21:13 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Juho wrote... I link this to the problems in Fiji http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system_of_Fiji. In some circumstances the voters don't seem to check where their votes will go. If you read the article carefully, you will see that the

Re: [Election-Methods] Local representation

2008-07-17 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Juho wrote: I think already the basic open list provides a quite strong link between candidates and voters. Voters will decide which candidates will be elected, not the party (this is an important detail). (Extensions are needed to provide proportionality between different subgroups of the

Re: [Election-Methods] [EM] Die Toss Version of FAWRB

2008-07-17 Thread fsimmons
For those just joining in we're talking about designing lotteries that make compromise C a sure winner in the following scenario: P: ACB Q: BCA Where P and Q are approximately 50%., and C is considered about 3/5 of the way between the lower and upper value in each faction from an expectation

Re: [Election-Methods] [EM] Die Toss Version of FAWRB

2008-07-17 Thread fsimmons
** Definition of method FMAC-RB ** (Favourite or Most Approved Compromise Random Ballot) ** -- -- ** Phase I: Perform a standard approval election to find the ** compromise ranking for Phase II. The question on the ballot reads **

Re: [Election-Methods] Local representation

2008-07-17 Thread Juho
On Jul 18, 2008, at 1:34 , James Gilmour wrote: Juho Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:18 PM I think already the basic open list provides a quite strong link between candidates and voters. Yes, it is certainly much stronger than with closed-list. But see next proviso. Voters will