At 07:26 AM 7/22/2008, Michael Allan wrote:
I'm grateful I was directed to this list. You're clearly experts. I
wish I could reply more completely right away (I should know better
than to start 2 separate threads). I'll just reply to Juho's
questions today, and tomorrow I'll look at Abd's
At 03:49 PM 7/22/2008, Juho wrote:
On Jul 22, 2008, at 14:26 , Michael Allan wrote:
What is btw the reason that there were no arrows forward from the two
leading candidates in the election snapshot picture in the references
page? Did they abstain or were their votes (not even their own vote)
At 03:59 AM 7/23/2008, Michael Allan wrote:
Juho wrote:
What is btw the reason that there were no arrows forward from the two
leading candidates in the election snapshot picture in the
references page?
Did they abstain or were their votes (not even their own vote)
not cascaded
forward
On Jul 26, 2008, at 12:41 , Michael Allan wrote:
OK. The dynamic is complex, and hard to predict. I'm curious to see
what happens in reality. Marcus Pivato said there's no way to model
this stuff in vitro (simulations), we have to run it in vivo.
I think it is possible to find and study
--- On Sun, 7/27/08, James Gilmour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is a consequence of your interpretation of how the
voting system is supposed to work and what the voting
system is supposed to
be doing. But that's not what IRV is about. As I said
in the previous message, the origins of
At 10:49 PM 7/23/2008, Kathy Dopp wrote:
Thought this list might be interested in this real world example of IRV.
It turns out that Fair Vote Director Rob Richie's home town of Takoma
Park Maryland, the home base for IRV, has Zero (0) zilch NADA minority
representation. And voter turnout flat
HUH!!! How did we get here, where the topic is IRV???
Plurality with runoff: If Plurality fails to produce a winner. then
the leading candidates - usually two - are voted on in a separate
election.
Exhaustive Ballot: If Plurality fails to produce a winner, then the
candidate with the
--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Terry Bouricius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Terry Bouricius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting
To: election-methods@lists.electorama.com
Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 2:26 PM
While I agree that core support is not always
Different election methods provide different incentives to
candidates...Under IRV, or two-round runoff, a candidate who is nobody's
first choice cannot win (they will be eliminated) even if this candidate
would be a good compromise (or merely an inoffensive candidate avoiding
all controversial
On Jul 27, 2008, at 22:26 , Terry Bouricius wrote:
While I agree that core support is not always well measured by first
choices (multiple clones can make all these clones appear to have
little
core support, where any of them would appear to have massive core
support running alone). However,
--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Terry Bouricius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Terry Bouricius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting
To: election-methods@lists.electorama.com
Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 3:32 PM
Different election methods provide different
At 09:30 AM 7/27/2008, James Gilmour wrote:
As I said in the previous message, the origins of IRV are in the
Exhaustive Ballot,
and in the Exhaustive Ballot there is no possibility of looking at
the entire ballot.
Can you provide a source for the claim that the origins of IRV are
in the
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