Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2010-01-30 Thread Warren Smith
I wrote the Romanian Election up (preliminarily; more work is wanted; the most important item is to recheck and confirm the approval-poll results) here http://rangevoting.org/Romania2009.html The results are not as impressive as I originally thought they were going to be. -- Warren D. Smith

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-09 Thread seppley
Without studying details of the three Romanian candidates and the voters' preferences, the explanation of this majority cycle cannot be known for sure. However, consider a case of three very similar candidates. The voters' preferences in each of the three possible pairings would be nearly tied

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-09 Thread Jameson Quinn
2009/12/9 seppley sepp...@alumni.caltech.edu Without studying details of the three Romanian candidates and the voters' preferences, the explanation of this majority cycle cannot be known for sure. However, consider a case of three very similar candidates. The voters' preferences in each of

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-09 Thread Juho Laatu
It is also interesting to separate different types of cycles. I'll assume that the number of voters is high. 1) Weak cycle (random cycle, noise level cycle, or noise generated cycle) - the looped candidates are almost tied - can be a result of some almost random variation in the votes - one

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-08 Thread Warren Smith
preliminary page on Romania 2009 election now available here http://rangevoting.org/Romania2009.html The results are not as impressive as I originally thought they were going to be. -- Warren D. Smith http://RangeVoting.org -- add your endorsement (by clicking endorse as 1st step) and

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-07 Thread Warren Smith
I am currently working on writing a paper on this election. In the event you or anybody can find more poll data, that'd help. I'd be especially interested if anybody can find a range-voting-style poll. I'm handicapped by lack of knowledge of the Romanian language. -- Warren D. Smith

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-07 Thread Bob Richard
Matt Shugart covers Romanian elections at http://fruitsandvotes.com/?cat=78 I don't think he will get into the presence or absence of Condorcet cycles, but he may well provides links to other useful stuff. Currently the first four or five posts on this page are on Romania. Manuel

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-07 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Warren Smith wrote: I am currently working on writing a paper on this election. In the event you or anybody can find more poll data, that'd help. I'd be especially interested if anybody can find a range-voting-style poll. I'm handicapped by lack of knowledge of the Romanian language. If I'm

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-07 Thread seppley
An analysis of the 1992 U.S. presidential election between Clinton, Bush Perot suggested the voters' preferences were a majority cycle: Bush over Clinton, Perot over Bush, and Clinton over Perot. If true, the recent Romanian election was not the first majority cycle in a national presidential

[EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-06 Thread Warren Smith
Hello. It appears the Romanian 2009 presidential election, which just (allegedly) ended with Basescu winning re-election, involved two different Condorcet top-cycles involving 4 candidates. The winner Basescu (elected via plurality+top2runoff) unfortunately probably was the worst choice among the

Re: [EM] First Condorcet cycle ever spotted in a national presidential election (!?! apparently)

2009-12-06 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Warren Smith wrote: Hello. It appears the Romanian 2009 presidential election, which just (allegedly) ended with Basescu winning re-election, involved two different Condorcet top-cycles involving 4 candidates. The winner Basescu (elected via plurality+top2runoff) unfortunately probably was the