Warren Smith Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 1:53 AM
At the present time, Jon Huntsman gets only a tiny
fraction of the USA-republican-presidential-nomination votes,
according to polls. For this reason, certain media people
have been saying it is a travesty Huntsman continues to run
and
Juho Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:29 PM
I think term weak CW should not be used as a general term
without referring to in what sense that winner is weak. There
are different elections and different needs. In some of them
weak CW is a good choice, in some others not.
51: A
49: B
On 23.9.2011, at 16.31, James Gilmour wrote:
Juho Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:29 PM
I think term weak CW should not be used as a general term
without referring to in what sense that winner is weak. There
are different elections and different needs. In some of them
weak CW is a
Here's an interesting
articlehttp://www.bostonreview.net/BR36.5/jonathan_rodden_jowei_chen_congressional_redistricting.php
:
http://www.bostonreview.net/BR36.5/jonathan_rodden_jowei_chen_congressional_redistricting.php
They survey 11 states with a simulation which creates random political
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Richard Fobes electionmeth...@votefair.org
wrote:
Declaration of Election-Method Reform Advocates -- Let's Move Democracy
Beyond Plurality and First-Past-the-Post Voting
I like this, or maybe (as you suggest):
Declaration of Election-Method Reform Advocates
But you are completely missing the point of what I wrote. It is the political
consequences of the second result that are important.
In the real world of partisan politics, such a weak Condorcet winner (and their
policies) would likely be torn to shreds by the
party politicians and their party
James,
My point is, that the two examples you gave IMO are very *strong*
Condorcet winners in the sense that the vast majority of voters would
prefer the Condorcet winner over one or the other of the other two
candidates which are far less popularly approved.
I think the IRV fanatics oppose
Since we're discussing IRV quite a bit lately, here's a question:
- Is there any voter profile where IRV gives a worse result than plurality?
I can't seem to think of one. So is it true that, mathematically, IRV
dominates Plurality, that is IRV is always at least as good as plurality and
Andy
Candidates can go up the rankings or down when a candidate is eliminated in
IRV, and it's possible to do both in different rounds. A plurality winner could
slip down and be eliminated in a case where they would have still gone up again
and won had they not been eliminated. So:
30: ABCD
Very good example. Thanks.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Toby Pereira tdp2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Andy
Candidates can go up the rankings or down when a candidate is eliminated in
IRV, and it's possible to do both in different rounds. A plurality winner
could slip down and be eliminated
Please accept my apologies for forgetting to fix the subject line from
the digest #.
I also want to agree with the person who suggested that Jon Huntsman
is a weak Condorcet winner among Republican US presidential
candidates, and mention that among the entire electorate, I believe
Jon Huntsman
To James Gilmour:
1. Despite your own certainty about how the real world of partisan
politics functions, your opinion is entirely speculative with no basis
in historical events, since no Condorcet elections have ever been held
in any major public elections (or even any minor ones I am aware
Dear James,
thanks for your comments.
Answers in the text below.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:53 AM, James Gilmour jgilm...@globalnet.co.ukwrote:
Peter Zbornik Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:04 PM
Well I think the argument that two-rounds systems are silly
and complex, can be
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