Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-06 Thread James Gilmour
Juho Laatu Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:12 PM On 4.8.2011, at 14.21, James Gilmour wrote: There is only one real issue in elections: representation of the voters. If in a single winner partisan election the voters vote 51% for A and 49% for B, we have a major problem in

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-06 Thread Juho Laatu
I was also looking for pure proportional representation. The compromise decisions would take place after the election in a representative body or in a government. The election methods need not be tampered. My theory was just that in the case that the majority (of parties) that forms the

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-06 Thread James Gilmour
: election-methods-boun...@lists.electorama.com [mailto:election-methods-boun...@lists.electorama.com] On Behalf Of Juho Laatu Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 5:38 PM To: EM list Subject: Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list? I was also looking for pure proportional representation

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-06 Thread Juho Laatu
...@lists.electorama.com [mailto:election-methods-boun...@lists.electorama.com] On Behalf Of Juho Laatu Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 5:38 PM To: EM list Subject: Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list? I was also looking for pure proportional representation. The compromise decisions would

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-04 Thread Juho Laatu
Yes, there are areas where single-winner methods are more challenging. For example multi-winner STV works better than single-winner STV, and it is easier to collect sincere ratings in multi-winner methods than in single-winner methods. On the other hand the field of study may be wider in

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-04 Thread James Gilmour
[mailto:election-methods-boun...@lists.electorama.com] On Behalf Of Juho Laatu Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:07 AM To: EM list Subject: Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list? Yes, there are areas where single-winner methods are more challenging. For example multi-winner STV

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-03 Thread Jameson Quinn
2011/8/3 Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk I noticed that there was a lot of activity on the multi-winner side. Earlier I have even complained about the lack of interest in multi-winner methods. Now there are still some interesting but unread mails in my inbox. Multi-winner methods are, if

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-03 Thread Peter Zbornik
Hi Jameson, I like the slate-nominating feature it requires the nominators of the slates to think about the best composition of the council and not about their candidates. This encourages deliberation and discussion across partisan borders, I imagine, in order to find the perfect mix. Slate

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-03 Thread Jameson Quinn
2011/8/3 Peter Zbornik pzbor...@gmail.com Hi Jameson, I like the slate-nominating feature it requires the nominators of the slates to think about the best composition of the council and not about their candidates. This encourages deliberation and discussion across partisan borders, I

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-03 Thread James Gilmour
Juho Laatu Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:04 AM Multi-winner methods are, if possible, even more complicated than single-winner methods. I disagree. It is much easier to obtain a satisfactory (representative, acceptable) outcome for a multi-winner election than it is to obtain a

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-03 Thread Juho Laatu
This method looks like one pretty natural way of measuring who should be elected. The privacy concerns are a problem in some environments but not all. This method could thus well suit for some real-world use (if privacy in not a problem or if voting machines or vote counters can be trusted).

[EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-02 Thread fsimmons
Towards the end of July, I noticed that I had to scroll down a long ways in the archive to get to the most recent messages. I wonder if we set some kind of record. If we were approaching or receding from a major election, it would be more understandable. Maybe all of the feisty guys are

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-02 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 8/2/11 8:48 PM, fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote: Towards the end of July, I noticed that I had to scroll down a long ways in the archive to get to the most recent messages. I wonder if we set some kind of record. If we were approaching or receding from a major election, it would be more

Re: [EM] Record activity on the EM list?

2011-08-02 Thread Juho Laatu
I noticed that there was a lot of activity on the multi-winner side. Earlier I have even complained about the lack of interest in multi-winner methods. Now there are still some interesting but unread mails in my inbox. Multi-winner methods are, if possible, even more complicated than