Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2014-02-20 17:18 GMT+04:00 Pepijn de Vos : It would be a huge help to have bugs labeled as easy and/or having a mentor > available. See Mozilla for an example: > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction > Actually, we at least used to have something similar - the easy bugs and the on

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-20 Thread Pepijn de Vos
I'll repeat this as I'm also guilty of not reply-all'ing (reply-to header anyone?) It would be a huge help to have bugs labeled as easy and/or having a mentor available. See Mozilla for an example: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction I looked at the issue tracker for someth

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-19 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
This is a good point, and it is a universal challenge (in both open source and proprietary projects). It needs effort. But there must be correlation between successful projects and well-documented ones: If actively try to lower the barrier one needs to overcome to start working with elementary (bo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-19 Thread Daniel Foré
The bigger problem than docs being boring is that the chance you're a writer, understand what you're writing, and also understand how to teach is extremely low. The google doc we started that one time was a complete piece of crap. Technical writing isn't just boring, it's incredibly difficult

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-19 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2014-02-19 18:32 GMT+04:00 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < ser...@elementaryos.org>: > Finally, we have Contractor; we used to have .contract file format > documentation in the old website but it's now gone. > The Granite wrapper API is *sort of* documented in the Granite valadoc, > but the version i

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
We're missing a ton of other docs in the website too, but you know how it goes - writing docs is boring and everybody has better things to do. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launc

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-18 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
I believe you wanted to reply to all (which I do). I agree. In general, I believe that our contribution guidelines are broken. For coders in particular, heading to the developer section of the website has a light introduction to vala, but says nothing on how to actually contribute to elementary (i

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-18 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Nikos Vasilakis wrote: > I believe you wanted to reply to all (which I do). > > I agree. In general, I believe that our contribution guidelines are > broken. For coders in particular, heading to the developer section of > the website has a light introduction to val

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-15 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
Thanks, David. On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, David Gomes wrote: > We decided not to apply given that we need to give higher focus to > stabilizing our current projects and not just writing a bunch of new ones. > > > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Nikos Vasilakis > wrote: >> >> Did we apply

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-15 Thread David Gomes
We decided *not* to apply given that we need to give higher focus to stabilizing our current projects and not just writing a bunch of new ones. On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Nikos Vasilakis wrote: > Did we apply, eventually? > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Daniel Foré > wrote: > > To be

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-15 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
Did we apply, eventually? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: > To be clear, what I'm saying is maybe we shouldn't be trying to make up > stuff to do just to participate in Gsoc when we already have quite a lot to > do even though it doesn't fit into Gsoc > Cheers, > > Daniel Foré

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Daniel Foré
To be clear, what I'm saying is maybe we shouldn't be trying to make up stuff to do just to participate in Gsoc when we already have quite a lot to do even though it doesn't fit into Gsoc Cheers, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Foré wrote: > This thread i

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Daniel Foré
This thread is starting to look and sound like just a massive distraction. We already have quite a lot of very important things to do. I think one of the most important of which is get AppCenter to a shippable state. New things are cool and fun and exciting, but if we really have the extra time

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Pepijn de Vos
This tread is just the best way of finding software I need :) Would be cool if they where more easily discoverable though. This was a good start: http://www.elementaryupdate.com/2013/08/top-things-to-do-after-installing-luna.html Elementary's new motto: There's a PPA for that! But... what's wr

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
Also, we have something similar, I believe: https://github.com/kjlaw89/draw On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Tristan Petersen wrote: > Pepijn, > > Are you familiar with the annotations feature of Mac OS X Preview app? It > does essentially what you describe. I use it all the time to quickly anno

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Tristan Petersen
Pepijn, Are you familiar with the annotations feature of Mac OS X Preview app? It does essentially what you describe. I use it all the time to quickly annotate screenshots or pdfs. Regards, Tristan > On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:41, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > > Another random idea, that is not a ripof

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Akshay Shekher
How about our alternative to UbuntuOne/Drop Box ? On Feb 14, 2014 4:11 PM, "Pepijn de Vos" wrote: > What I think the OP suggested Contractor for, and what shell scripting > does not provide is an API to GUI applications. > > In AppleScript you could move windows around, show pages in Safari, add

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Pepijn de Vos
What I think the OP suggested Contractor for, and what shell scripting does not provide is an API to GUI applications. In AppleScript you could move windows around, show pages in Safari, add events to iCal, play songs in iTunes. I implemented things like a tiling WM, a script to open links in

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
Well, there's a number of visual programming environments out there already and I can't see how this relates to elementary specifically. It's more of a project for the Raspberry Pi community. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Marco Benzi
I was thinking about a visual programming experience for the end user who might be unfamiliar with bash. Also, depending on implementation, the app could reach beyond the scope of elementary, becoming useful for other distros. Just my two cents. Cheers, Marco El 13-02-2014, a las 9:53, Sergey

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I've looked up Automator in Wikipedia and I can't see how that's related to Contractor. Contractor is designed to be operated by the user, its actions are not designed to be automatable. Actually, automating such actions is an unrelated problem, but IMHO shell scripting suits that use case just fi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Marco Benzi
I was wondering, since Contractor is taking shape, how possible is it to do an app like Automator? Marco El 13-02-2014, a las 7:45, Aniket Deole escribió: > We already have Cable > (http://elementaryluna.blogspot.in/2012/08/cable-new-irc-chat-client.html) > But that is not an "official" eleme

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Aniket Deole
We already have Cable ( http://elementaryluna.blogspot.in/2012/08/cable-new-irc-chat-client.html) But that is not an "official" elementary app. - Aniket On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > A proper IRC client. > > I know Empathy does IRC, but

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Pepijn de Vos
A proper IRC client. I know Empathy does IRC, but it is unsuitable for real use. Try opening a few dozen channels in its tabbed interface. Try idling in a busy channel. All the real IRC clients either *are* a terminal app,  or look like terminal app in a GTK window. Compare some screens from Te

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
FYI we already have a time machine application, Cronopete. The interesting work items for it are 1) btrfs snapshots or even old copy-on-write versions of files outside of snapshots as storage medium, instead of a dedicated partition and 2) Integration into applications, much like for Contractor cli

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
Great application everyone, I made a number of textual refinements to the GSOC text, hopefully beneficial! Someone with edit capability could pull them in the text (if the GSOC-related people agree). I haven't gone through the ideas yet. I will try to do it tonight and work on a "snapshots/time-m

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
OK, I have an idea that's been collecting the metaphorical dust for many a month. In a nutshell, the current "Open or Save?" dialogs in web browsers that they show when encountering a non-web file are terrible; how can I choose if I want to keep the file before I even see it? And why the hell can'

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Cameron Norman
The first one that comes to mind is presentation software (like Ease, but obviously more mature). Another idea that has been floating around in my mind is an elementary HIG'd audio session manager (check out Gladish, Claudia, Non Session Manager for an example of what this is) that would stres

[Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread David Gomes
Hi everyone, It turns out that one of the reasons we weren't accepted for GSOC last year was the lack of quality ideas. It seems then that projects for GSOC should be 3 months of work. Maybe for one of us (the regular developers) they'd be 1 month of work, but they should be 3 months of work for a