Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Yep he definitely should evan-gelize more. ... (OK I'm out) On Jan 27, 2017 19:46, "Duane Johnson" wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Rex van der Spuy wrote: > And, I hope he always remains the sole maintainer and developer of the >

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Rex van der Spuy wrote: > And, I hope he always remains the sole maintainer and developer of the > language, because, frankly, I just don't trust anyone else :) > Gosh, I hope not, because that would mean he failed to teach anyone else

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 12:36:38 AM UTC-5, Gage Peterson wrote: > > Totally agree. Reddit here I come. > > Also, I feel we really need to treat Evan like the awesome leader he is. > Give the guy a break. He's making one of the best languages I've ever used. > Triple +++ Elm is the only

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 5:36:38 AM UTC, Gage Peterson wrote: > > Also, I feel we really need to treat Evan like the awesome leader he is. > Give the guy a break. He's making one of the best languages I've ever used. > +1 to that. I am very much enjoying working with Elm, it has

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Totally agree. Reddit here I come. Also, I feel we really need to treat Evan like the awesome leader he is. Give the guy a break. He's making one of the best languages I've ever used. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. To

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 9:45:56 PM UTC-5, Richard Feldman wrote: > > Worth noting that the top thread on elm-discuss for several weeks > > > has been largely about languages other than Elm, and the

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 2:45:56 AM UTC, Richard Feldman wrote: > > That thread has singlehandedly convinced me we should move away from > elm-discuss. Actively rewarding the lowest-quality discussions is really > bad. :( > +1 Fine, but not for /r/elm please... something better. A bb

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

+1. My previous concerns basically go away if the "core" elm people make an effort to upvote newbie threads and comments on the weekly beginner thread. If new people get ~5 upvotes, that should be enough to make them not feel excluded. But yeah, moderation, pinned FAQs/guidelines, and all that

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Worth noting that the top thread on elm-discuss for several weeks has been largely about languages other than Elm, and the Elm-specific parts have primarily consisted of lobbying Evan for reprioritization through a

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

> I've noticed that - it's a brilliant idea, thanks so much! Credit where credit is due: Evan asked me to look into this and specifically mentioned he thought the beginners thread was a good idea. I'm just implementing. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 9:33:57 AM UTC-5, Brian Hicks wrote: > > Just a note: we've "stolen" the weekly beginners / easy question thread > concept from the Rust subreddit. We're into week three now: >

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Just a note: we've "stolen" the weekly beginners / easy question thread concept from the Rust subreddit. We're into week three now: https://www.reddit.com/r/elm/comments/5of78c/easy_questions_beginners_thread_week_of_20170116/ Just to tie this back to our discussion about beginners questions

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

This will be part of the State of Elm survey. It goes live this week, and I'll post a new thread here when it does. It doesn't go into quite as much detail as your post because we're already pushing the length limit. That said, this is what I've got for this: > Which of the following do you

[elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Hi again, since this is not the first time that this matter is discussed, and since this time Evan launched it, it means that it is an important matter for the community and it's going to evolve anytime soon ^^. So, instead of discussing it here with passion and obvious bias since we are on

[elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Sorry if this is an offtopic direction, but I (as a newcomer) would also like Discourse best. It has an e-mail interface, very good UI, spam controls, trust system, community moderation tools, healthy development speed, and could be installed under a custom domain name (like

[elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I would also like to keep something like this group. The fact that every one get a chance to be read by the community (without being downvoted or just ignored) is very important. A few times in Stack Overflow I have asked somewhat hard/specific questions with nobody caring answering it because

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 3:20:24 PM UTC, OvermindDL1 wrote: > > I'd still not recommend reddit, it has no mailing list support. Here or > Discourse both act well as a forum (though discourse more so) and as a > mailing list both, so either works. > I agree, /r/elm should point here for

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I'd still not recommend reddit, it has no mailing list support. Here or Discourse both act well as a forum (though discourse more so) and as a mailing list both, so either works. On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 12:34:47 AM UTC-7, Håkon Rossebø wrote: > > I would also prefer a solution like

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

My main hesitation about reddit is that, even on the best-case subs like /r/rust, newcomer posts tends to get downvoted or ignored. Here, if a newcomer posts a basic question, many people will ignore them, but the poster doesn't know that. Someone will post a solution, or a link to one, and they

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 7:00:34 PM UTC, Martin DeMello wrote: > > I'm a heavy reddit user, and I think it simply lacks the features > necessary to support mailing-list-style discussions: > You can't quote when replying. I like newsgroups so much better then /r/elm. I like the old

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I can't speak to Evan's original intent in posting, but that's what I'd like to see people do. > On Jan 4, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > > So, this is really about "please go look at /r/elm too"? > > Mark > >> On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:08 AM,

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

So, this is really about "please go look at /r/elm too"? Mark > On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:08 AM, br...@brianthicks.com wrote: > > Killing elm-discuss is outside the scope of the discussion. The point is to > emphasize an underused watering hole, not kill an existing one that works > well for a

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

At least going through the mental exercise of "would you move elm-dev to reddit" is a way to avoid the frequently fallacious mental trap of "I wouldn't do this, but others should". In fact, for any move to any other system, it might actually be a good thing for elm-dev to lead the way. That

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Killing elm-discuss is outside the scope of the discussion. The point is to emphasize an underused watering hole, not kill an existing one that works well for a subset of the community. > On Jan 4, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Martin DeMello wrote: > > I would argue very

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I would argue very strongly against killing elm-discuss. I'm a heavy reddit user, and I think it simply lacks the features necessary to support mailing-list-style discussions: 1. if you subscribe to a lot of subreddits, there is no guarantee you'll be shown new posts from /r/elm in your front

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I agree that this only works if elm-discuss gets killed. It might, however, be necessary to also kill elm-dev because the leakage of elm-discuss traffic over into elm-dev will likely become much worse if elm-discuss goes away. Mark > On Jan 4, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Rex van der Spuy

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I'm well aware that the Elm subreddit can and will be moderated. The view point I was hearing and relaying was basically a political statement about choosing not to support Reddit. Mark > On Jan 4, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Charlie Koster wrote: > > Mark, Reddit is what you make

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I, in my ungrammatical bubble, should perhaps use some Elm-based software to keep me from becoming too casual in my writing. :-P > On Jan 4, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > > Me, in my white male tech bubble, focused on user interface annoyances in > Reddit. I

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 12:05:33 PM UTC-5, Brian Hicks wrote: > > the fact remains that /r/elm is going to be a place that people go to ask > questions, and if nobody is there to answer them we're giving people a > really bad experience. > > That was my problem: When I started

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I understand the principle of wanting to avoid Twitter and Reddit. I feel pretty conflicted about those two services myself. But the fact remains that /r/elm is going to be a place that people go to ask questions, and if nobody is there to answer them we're giving people a really bad

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Mark, Reddit is what you make of it. Subreddits (such as /r/elm) are self-moderated and it's easy enough to unsubscribe from the bad ones. I think you can be rest assured that /r/elm will be devoid of hate speech.

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

Me, in my white male tech bubble, focused on user interface annoyances in Reddit. I asked around with some other developers I work with and have worked with and Reddit (along with Twitter) was viewed as a place that has been too friendly to hate speech — particularly racist and misogynist hate

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 12:27:11 PM UTC, John Orford wrote: > > That struck me as well - I am going to switch my name to the real one, if > I can on Reddit... > Or create a new account so you can keep the nickname to use when you are trolling us... :-P -- You received this message

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

That struck me as well - I am going to switch my name to the real one, if I can on Reddit... On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 at 12:54 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss < elm-discuss@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 6:51:28 AM UTC, Richard Feldman wrote: > > I don't think that makes

[elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 6:51:28 AM UTC, Richard Feldman wrote: > > I don't think that makes /r/elm the automatic best choice, but I do think >> it makes it worth a shot. >> > I like how on google groups everyone tends to use their real name. On reddit most people post with nicknames. It

[elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

> > How about using Discourse ? React forum > and Meteor forum > use > it, or you can see the list here > . > At some point I heard someone point out that /r/elm is

[elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 1:51:05 AM UTC, Evan wrote: > > Right now I'm just suggesting that folks who are regulars here get on > /r/elm and see if you like it. I'd like to start by shifting the center of > gravity for community discussion. > Sure, will give it a go. -- You received

[elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

How about using Discourse ? React forum and Meteor forum use it, or you can see the list here . On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 8:51:05 AM UTC+7, Evan wrote: > > I

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I have never really used Reddit, but I am happy to try it out! That second bullet point in particular has really been wearing down my morale lately. Don't forget, elm-discuss still has top billing on the community page On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Mark Hamburg

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

The web interface to Reddit is abysmal. Email isn't great but Reddit seems incredibly tedious. On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Charlie Koster wrote: > I just wanted to confirm one of your assertions anecdotally. In the past > week I wrote two Elm blog posts and opted to

[elm-discuss] Re: Emphasizing /r/elm more

I just wanted to confirm one of your assertions anecdotally. In the past week I wrote two Elm blog posts and opted to post them to /r/elm rather than elm-discuss for precisely the first two bullet points you listed. A linear discussion would have been largely unhelpful and distracting. I also