This will be part of the State of Elm survey. It goes live this week, and I'll post a new thread here when it does. It doesn't go into quite as much detail as your post because we're already pushing the length limit. That said, this is what I've got for this:
> Which of the following do you read / contribute to? > > - Elm Slack > - elm-discuss mailing list > - elm-dev mailing list > - Twitter discussions > - Facebook groups > - Elm subreddit > - Elm weekly newsletter > - Elm town podcast On Jan 18, 2017, 8:19 AM -0600, Matthieu Pizenberg <[email protected]>, wrote: > Hi again, since this is not the first time that this matter is discussed, and > since this time Evan launched it, it means that it is an important matter for > the community and it's going to evolve anytime soon ^^. So, instead of > discussing it here with passion and obvious bias since we are on the mailing > list, what would you think of asking the questions to all the community in a > more objective way? > > What I think of is for example a google form like the one below, that would > be accessible from all the community entry points (slack, reddit, mailing > list, ...). Please tell if you like the idea, or not. (sorry for the long > post XD) > > > # Community Checkpoint Form > > --------------- PROFILE > > What is your experience with elm ? > - New here > - Not so much experience (1-2 completed projects) > - Start feeling confident (understand most of it, multiple successful > projects) > - Total expert (yeah I even master effect managers, native code, etc.) > > Are you familiar with functional programming? > - What is that? > - I know the basics > - Yes I use it regurlarly > - Peace of cake, I'm currently doing a PhD on homotopy type theory for > functional programming > > --------------- COMMUNITY > > Some description here to introduce the dilemna between Reddit, Google Groups > (alias mailing list), and something else dedicated (let's say a Discourse). > > Did you know about: > o The elm Reddit? > o The elm Slack? > o The elm discussion group (mailing list)? > > Are you currently a Reddit user? > - No > - Yes, sometimes > - Yes, everytime > > Are you currently a Google Groups user? > - No > - Yes, sometimes > - Yes, everytime > > Are you currently using a Discourse forum? > - No > - Yes, sometimes > - Yes, everytime > > Rank your preferences between those: > 1. elm Reddit > 1. elm discussion group (mailing list) > 1. elm Discourse > > (If you ranked first Reddit) would you volunteer to help with the moderation? > - yes/no > (If you ranked first the mailing list) would you volunteer to help with the > moderation? > - yes/no > (If you ranked first Discourse) would you volunteer to help with the > creation, funding of the server, or moderation of this forum? > - yes/no > > (If you answered yes to one of the previous volunteering questions) please > give us details of what you would like to do and a way to contact you in case > this might go further: > ------------ > | | > ------------ > > Anything you would like to add? > ------------ > | | > ------------ > > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 2:51:05 AM UTC+1, Evan wrote: > > I recently talked with folks who moderate the various Elm discussion forums > > about the challenges that come up and how we can do better. > > > > The short version is: we should start migrating more discussion to /r/elm. > > > > Now the long version! > > > > > > How Things Are Now > > > > Long-form discussion is split between elm-discuss and /r/elm. There are a > > lot of regulars that spend more time on elm-discuss, but I think it's fair > > to say that /r/elm is much more easily accessible and "public facing" for > > newcomers. This creates some problems. > > > > Problems with elm-discuss: > > > > • Threads are linear, so it's hard for people to branch off into > > sub-discussions. > > • There's no voting mechanism in elm-discuss, so topics are sorted by "are > > people posting?" not by "do people care?" > > • Moderation to avoid spam is more difficult. All new users are moderated > > by default to avoid those awful spam robots that Google Groups does not > > catch. > > • It goes to people's already full inboxes. If you change this, you use the > > online interface, which is not amazing. > > > > Problems from having two long-form forums: > > > > • Lots of valuable expertise only lives on elm-discuss. When new folks come > > to /r/elm, there are not as many folks with as much production experience. > > • Blog posts (frequently shared on /r/elm) miss out on a lot of valuable > > feedback. > > > > > > How Things Could Be > > > > Right now I'm just suggesting that folks who are regulars here get on > > /r/elm and see if you like it. I'd like to start by shifting the center of > > gravity for community discussion. > > > > Longer term though, things could look more like how Rust does it. It seems > > like /r/rust is the center of gravity for community discussion. See their > > sidebar! They moderate content well and have some laughs. (I personally > > think it's very important for moderators to be active in guiding people > > towards friendly discussion! That's super hard on elm-discuss.) > > > > They also have an interesting approach to answering beginner questions that > > I think it'd be good to try out! > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "Elm Discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/elm-discuss/rg3fzdyG_VU/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
