Re: defface doc misses default and some more errors

2005-02-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:06:18 +0100 Thanks, you are right. I just copied that part. Hm. I just read the semantics so to say. What about the semantic error which I was pointing out? The previous wording was inaccurate, but

Re: Popup when buffer file is changed on disk

2005-02-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:41:53 -0600 (CST) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org (defcustom auto-revert-stop-on-user-input t ! When non-nil, user input temporarily interrupts Auto-Revert Mode. ! When nil, Auto-Revert Mode

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:53:40 +0100 (CET) From: Stephan Stahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I'm not the OP but using Miles Example and C-x C-e'ing it seems fast enough and takes about half a second on an P4 2,4GHz

Compilation warnings regarding calc-math.el

2005-02-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
FYI: Byte-compiling calc-math.el yields the following warnings: In calc-arctan: calc-math.el:239:8:Warning: function `calc-arctan' defined multiple times in this file In calc-tanh: calc-math.el:244:8:Warning: function `calc-tanh' defined multiple times in this file In

tex-mode.el

2005-02-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii
When tex-mode.el from current CVS is compiled, it produces the following warning: In tex-mode: tex-mode.el:818:8:Warning: function `tex-mode' defined multiple times in this file Is this okay? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org

Re: Documentation for compile.el and grep.el?

2005-02-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:20:29 +1300 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Some of these are mentioned in etc/NEWS, and they are not marked with a +++', which means the documentation was not yet updated to reflect that change. Someone will do that before the

Re: Hourglass only for X-windows?

2005-02-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:20:35 +0100 There is clearly something I do not understand here. Perhaps you are not the only one ;-) However I can not see how hourglass support can be implemented at all if those places where you

Re: `texinfo-format-buffer' doesn't fold long lines

2005-02-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
`texinfo-format-buffer' because `texinfmt.el' created the bad line @end [EMAIL PROTECTED] He was using a Microsoft operating system and thought (erroneously, according to Eli Zaretskii) that `makeinfo' had not yet been ported. That is why he was using the deprecated `texinfo-format

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-02 Thread Eli Zaretskii
CC: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:31:13 +0200 | Please, we had an extremely prolonged discussion about this not long | ago, let's not have it again! | | I agree. Its only worth opening

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-02 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:32:58 + (UTC) From: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I don't see how a video capture program could be considered a model for how a text editor should work. Emacs is much more than a text editor. It is an

Re: When is hourglass shown?

2005-03-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 14:33:19 -0500 Cc: Emacs-Devel emacs-devel@gnu.org I thought it was command-agnostic AFAIK, it is, at least in principle (i.e. barring any bugs). I see in keyboard.c that one instance of the call to start_hourglass is ifdef'ed

Re: Carbon build on Mac OS 9

2005-03-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 13:07:38 +0900 From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Thanks for the comment. I added an entry in etc/NEWS and some instruction in mac/INSTALL. Thanks. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list

Re: embedding Mozilla in GNU Emacs via GTK?

2005-03-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 15:15:27 -0500 I am curious if there's a chance GNU Emacs will ever have an embedded web browser object through the Mozilla GTK support: IIRC, this has come up before. If memory serves, the main problem was how to reconcile the

Re: fileio.c #if 0 block

2005-03-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 12:50:20 +0100 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org sorry, i did not quote the block precisely. the block begins w/: #if 0 /* PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THIS COMMENTED-OUT VERSION! (and goes on to surround a DEAFUN for Fexpand_file_name.)

Re: fileio.c #if 0 block

2005-03-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 02:25:11 +0100 as part of the emacs under vms effort, i'm addressing some of the subtle bugs (that are related to vms) in Fexpand_file_name, by studying the current behavior, forming a mental model of

Re: Hourglass only for X-windows?

2005-03-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jan D. [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED], KOBAYASHI Yasuhiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:33:16 +0100

Re: Hourglass only for X-windows?

2005-03-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:44:30 + From: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org HAVE_NTGUI is better than WINDOWSNT here, I think. Agreed. ___

Re: Hourglass only for X-windows?

2005-03-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:03:28 +0100 HAVE_NTGUI is better than WINDOWSNT here, I think. I think it would be much more readable if we had a special define. Not in this case,

Re: Hourglass only for X-windows?

2005-03-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:42:25 +0100 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Jan D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe HAVE_HOURGLASS should go into src\config.in

Re: Hourglass only for X-windows?

2005-03-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 02:03:45 +0100 From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't see how this is more readable. One cannot understand the meaning

Re: Options menu

2005-03-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:53:29 -0800 Please don't make such a change: the simple toggle-type options should come first, and the submenus (like Mule) later. Not the other way around. Likewise with Customize: it should

Re: Options menu

2005-03-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:24:34 +0100 When Emacs 21.1 was released, many users complained about the changed menu-bar structure, even though the new structure was generally better,

Re: Options menu

2005-03-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:51:55 +0100 I think that View here mostly is a synonym for Appearance. In for example Firefox View menu the main items are: Toolbars, Status Bar, Sidebars; Stop, Reload; Text Size,

Re: [juanleon1@gmail.com: Problem at backup-buffer for writable files in not writable dirs]

2005-03-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:22:14 -0500 I think this change is correct--does anyone disagree? Would someone please install this on Monday (and thank him) if no objection has been found? You already asked me to install this, and I already did (and

Re: Possible change to startup.el

2005-03-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:50:14 -0500 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:44:37 +0100 ! Emacs Tutorial Learn-by-doing tutorial (in many languages) ! for

Re: Possible change to startup.el

2005-03-22 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:24:27 +0900 From: Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:55:13 +0200, Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emacs TutorialLearn-by-doing tutorial (in your language) How about

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:29:23 +0100 (CET) From: Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for adding thaiword.el to the CVS. You're welcome. And thanks for working on it. Shouldn't it be announced somehow in the NEWS file? I'd love to do that, but the file was handed to me without a

Re: term/bobcat still requires term/keyswap

2005-03-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Yoichi NAKAYAMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:02:25 +0900 At Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:04:00 +0900, Yoichi NAKAYAMA wrote: At Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:52:33 +0900, Yoichi NAKAYAMA wrote: The change in keyswap.el: 2005-03-19 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED

Advanced calendar usage in emacs-xtra.texi

2005-03-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:12:41 -0500 Message: 13 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:45:16 -0500 From: Glenn Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Emacs-diffs] Changes to emacs/man/calendar.texi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Index:

Re: Advanced calendar usage in emacs-xtra.texi

2005-03-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:00:42 -0600 (CST) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, last time when I proposed something similar (for url.texi, if I remember well), you and Karl and Dave opposed me on this and I wound up using a regular

Re: man/files.texi

2005-03-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:51:59 -0600 (CST) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] The recent addition of auto-revert-check-vc-info to man/files.texi is somewhat confusing. It seems to suggest that the normal state of any buffer is to have version control info in the mode line. Just

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:52:47 -0500 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Maybe some people type spaces while holding down the shift key and expect it to be an ordinary space (such as, between words

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects natively in Emacs

2005-03-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:18:49 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org it has already been decided that Emacs will not get a generic interface to call binary modules, in order not to make it legally feasible to employ it as a tightly coupled component in

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects natively in Emacs

2005-03-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jan D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:00:22 +0200 But how can you tell if an object is a standard component in the OS or not? AFAIK anybody can make ActiveX/COM-objects. Much like shared

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects natively in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Jan D. [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:07:30 +0200 The COM interface itself is part of the OS. Much like DND. Yes, like the DLL interface Sigh. No, not like the DLL interface. COM

Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 28, Issue 119

2005-03-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:38:49 -0500 + @kindex C-M-n @r{(Fortran mode)} @kindex C-M-n @r{(F90 mode)} Why do we need two kindex entries here? Isn't the one that says Fortran mode enough to cover both Fortran 90 and pre-9x Fortrans? (Having almost identical index

Re: Layout of Emacs manual top mode in Info

2005-03-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:49:49 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Richard asked me about this in private, and after taking a look at it, I recommended rather going for @subsection (which is the right size here) because @section appeared _too_ large. I did

Re: man/files.texi

2005-03-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:14:13 -0600 (CST) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org - @vindex auto-revert-check-vc-info - Whenever Auto Revert mode reverts the buffer, it updates the version - control information, such as the version control number displayed in -

Re: Layout of Emacs manual top mode in Info

2005-03-30 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:20:17 -0500 Right, no more than one menu per node. It is no problem to have multiple @menu commands per node. Info treats them all as a single menu. I

Re: What to use for file lists from particular authors?

2005-04-02 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:57:54 +0200 If I have a CVS project and I want to have a list of all files a particular author has touched (can you spell copyright assignment?), what is a good way to do that? Either working from a ChangeLog file, or

Re: Release plans?

2005-04-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:18:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it's the latter, maybe admin/emacs-pretesters should be updated to reflect this. Updated in what way? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org

Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior

2005-04-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Aidan Kehoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:25:20 +0200 Cc: David Reitter [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org [...] Should one make people abandon Emacs that have been using it for 20 years, so that a newcomer will take an hour instead of half an hour before

Re: face colors on 256 colors terminals

2005-04-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Dan Nicolaescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:17:11 -0700 This comment in tty-colors.el:tty-color-standard-values ;; Translate the string #XXYYZZ into a list ;; of numbers (XX YY ZZ). If the primary colors ;; are specified with less than 4

Re: face colors on 256 colors terminals

2005-04-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Dan Nicolaescu [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:36:27 +0200 The R, G, and B represent single hexadecimal digits. When fewer than 16 bits each are specified, they represent the

Re: face colors on 256 colors terminals

2005-04-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Dan Nicolaescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:27:36 -0700 So I think we should change this patch so as not to change the color definitions on displays that support less than 88 colors. That is, in those cases where there's a single color

Re: face colors on 256 colors terminals

2005-04-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dan Nicolaescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:17:48 -0700 James Cloos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I beleive I recall this coming up on the xfree lists some years back, and further beleive that the current codebase of both xfree and xorg do

Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X

2005-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Kevin Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:46:23 -0600 Why can't the overscrolled portion of the window (or any portion beyond the end of the buffer) be displayed differently? I think the fringe face would be good for that. There's already an optional feature to do

Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group

2005-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:22:29 +1200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org You don't explain the reasoning behind loading xt-mouse in loadup.el. I imagine it doesn't get used very often and I thought Richard said it should be loaded/enabled in

Re: face colors on 256 colors terminals

2005-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Dan Nicolaescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:13:08 -0700 What about the xterm.el patch for xterm-register-default-colors and xterm-rgb-convert-to-16bit? I think everybody agreed that these changes are okay. So please commit them.

Re: Stealth fontification GCs a lot

2005-04-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:40:14 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org I haven't looked at the consing behavior, but I'll just mention that I find stealth fontification annoying and have turned it off a while ago. Many people have reported problems with it

Re: Stealth fontification GCs a lot

2005-04-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:25:00 -0400 I will try your settings. You initially complained about too much consing; I don't claim that these settings alleviate that (I simply never checked this aspect). All I'm

Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group

2005-04-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jan D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:58:04 +0200 But how do you check whether configure was invoked with `--without-x' from Lisp and from C? #ifndef HAVE_X_WINDOWS Actually, I'd suggest #ifdef

Re: make-dist doesn't distribute some quail files.

2005-04-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Lute Kamstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:47:18 +0200 We don't distribute the *.el files which begin with a capital letter, either. Currently, make-dist does include them. Not in the leim/quail directory, it doesn't.

Re: Stealth fontification GCs a lot

2005-04-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:31:38 -0400 Your stealth fontification settings seem much better to me, too. Whether or not stealth fontification should be on by defaults, they seem to be better parameters for it. If no one

Re: xterm-mouse-mode

2005-04-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Ismail Donmez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:08:15 +0300 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Thanks also can you document the change in Changelog so people can see whats going on. This change _is_ documented in Changelog (and in NEWS, where users should look for such changes).

Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group

2005-04-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:16:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org + #if defined (HAVE_WINDOW_SYSTEM) !defined (MSDOS) You don't need to test for MSDOS here, since the MSDOS port doesn't define HAVE_WINDOW_SYSTEM.

Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group

2005-04-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:04:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org One possibility is to only avoid preloading tooltip on MSDOS and not worry about `--without-x'. (How many people compile Emacs `--without-x'?)

Re: Stealth fontification GCs a lot

2005-04-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Jonathan Yavner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:17:50 -0400 I love JIT font-lock and depend on it for proper operation of HAPE, but stealth-fontification is pointless when working on a 2MB file that's heavily fontified but probably much less than 1% of it will be looked

Re: Stealth fontification GCs a lot

2005-04-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:03:57 -0400 Is the idea that it avoids delays when you move to other parts of the buffer, because they've been fontified while you were on the phone? Yes. Does anyone observe

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:13:54 -0400 Anyway, I don't see any reason why cited text should be fontified. IMHO, the reason is, if nothing else, that this is how Mail mode behaved on a tty since v21.1, and users did not complain

Re: Incompatible change without warning

2005-04-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Frank Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:48:45 +0200 I see that on 2005-4-18 the tooltip-use-echo-area was renamed to tooltip-gud-echo-area. This change breaks existing code (semantic). Isn't it common practise to first deprecate a variable before deleting it? I

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:57:25 -0400 Maybe hardly anyone used font lock on Rmail buffers in text consoles. I doubt that this is the case. (I certainly used Rmail on text consoles many times, but that's just me.) I don't

Re: Splitting and moving generic.el.

2005-04-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:05:53 +0100 From: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] As an aside, I've found Emacs to be less stable since the feature freeze was declared than it has been since the early days of 21.0 development. The sad truth, IMHO, is that this ``feature freeze'' is not enforced

Re: Splitting and moving generic.el.

2005-04-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Lute Kamstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:09:54 +0200 Cc: Emacs Devel emacs-devel@gnu.org On GNU/Linux, all *.elc files are deleted during bootstrap. People who don't have too much time to work on Emacs, cannot afford waiting for make bootstrap every time they resync

Re: Splitting and moving generic.el.

2005-04-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:58:02 +0100 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's an annoyance, yes. But the build process runs list-load-path-shadows that should pinpoint such stale *.elc files

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:31:07 -0400 Turning it off for cited text in Mail and Rmail is a much smaller change with less downside, since the citation markers are still fontified. I'm sure this will annoy many of those who

Re: Incompatible change without warning

2005-04-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 20:10:55 +1200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Looking at the ChangeLog it seems to have just missed the branch from which 21.2 and 21.3 were also released. 2001-10-20 Gerd

Re: Stealth fontification GCs a lot

2005-04-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:03:58 -0400 Your stealth fontification settings seem much better to me, too. Whether or not stealth fontification should be on by defaults, they seem to be better parameters for it.

RMAIL fontification wrong for cited message text

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
I didn't yet have time to try the version of RMAIL with separate faces for comment delimiter and comment text, so what's below might not happen there. With the version of RMAIL from yesterday morning (GMT), fontification of cited messages is wrong when more than one level of citations is present.

Re: font-lock-comment-delimiter-face

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:51:38 -0400 I introduced a new face, font-lock-comment-delimiter-face, to make it possible to customize separately the fontification of comment delimiters and comment text. I also set up Rmail and Sendmail modes to use

Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
A couple of weeks ago, a change to compile.el introduced an overlay arrow into buffers created by compile.el: the overlay arrow now marks the current line in the compilation buffer. (Here, ``current line'' means the line whose locus is displayed in the other window; next-error and mouse-1 change

Re: Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:42:47 +0200 Cc: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: =wd.c:5: warning: implicit declaration of function `bar' On text terminals, the overlay-arrow is just

Re: Feature freeze (was Re: font-lock-comment-delimiter-face)

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:46:40 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Glenn Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:27:47 +0100 2) should there be a new CVS branch for the release? that depends on the precise release

Re: What about a seperate HOME environment variable under w32?

2005-04-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:08:51 +0800 From: Sun Yijiang [EMAIL PROTECTED] The %HOME% environment variable is used by many programs under w32, so it's really a mess sometime. Is HOME used for any other purpose than Emacs does: to store the user's private init files? If some programs use

Re: C-n is very slow in Font-Lock mode

2005-04-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:57:05 +0200 Without looking at the code, it would be my guess that it would currently run immediately after redisplay, whereas my suggestion for jit-lock-defer-time=0 semantics would be that it be run

Re: C-n is very slow in Font-Lock mode

2005-04-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:56:25 -0400 One way to do that is to set jit-lock-defer-time. Are you suggesting this as a change in the defaults? I'm not interested in this as a workaround for me alone; I

Re: C-n is very slow in Font-Lock mode

2005-04-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:43:01 +0200 We are talking about the situation where the input is coming in faster than Emacs can process it. See, we don't really know that. Whether this is true or not, depends on several unknown

Re: Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-04-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:10:59 +0200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By ``bug'' in this case I meant a design bug. Then we agree! It's at least a bad misfeature, and surely shouldn't

Re: Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-04-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:01:00 -0400 Why not do what was suggested? (unless (display-graphic-p) (put 'next-error-overlay-arrow-position 'overlay-arrow-string )) Wouldn't this

Re: lispref/frames.texi and xmenu.c

2005-05-01 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 08:35:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] In some configurations, Emacs cannot display a real dialog box; so instead it displays the same items in a pop-up menu in the center of the frame. I can not check, but does quitting or popping

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-01 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:47:37 -0400 I just got the following backtrace. Any idea what's up? I indeed don't have /lib/cpp (this is on MacOSX) but it shouldn't prevent me from opening a C file, Not only that, it IMHO shouldn't call /lib/cpp

Re: c-macro-expand isn't part of CC Mode [Was: cpp use in cc-mode is broken]

2005-05-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:00:50 + (GMT) From: Alan Mackenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org `c-macro-expand' actually lives in the file .../list/progmodes/cmacexp.el. This file was last updated 3 years 8 months ago by Eli. Yes,

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:23:40 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org ??? Isn't it a simple matter of looking at the Makefile and passing the relevant switches to the preprocessor? If the Makefile is too complex to figure out the switches, I usually

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:17:14 -0400 Cc: Magnus Henoch [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org ((memq system-type '(darwin berkeley-unix)) gcc -E -C -) Testing system-type strikes me as wrong (as usual). Agreed. Since it's the penultimate

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Jan D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 06:51:38 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org gcc -E can expand the macros just fine, it just needs the same input (-I -D and -U) as gcc got when creating the executable. As others pointed out, it is impractical to set this up if you are

Foo Mode enabled

2005-05-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
If a minor mode is defined via define-minor-mode, then the status message FOO Mode enabled is not displayed if toggling the mode autoloads some package. This happens because define-minor-mode has this fragment: (if (called-interactively-p) (progn ,(if globalp

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:02:51 +1200 Cc: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Also could you please DTRT for gdb-cpp-define-alist-program. Done. (The test for ms-dos was redundant.) Btw, byte-compiling gdb

Re: Adding missing copyright years

2005-05-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 07:29:24 +0200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Refilling a paragraph, reindenting and similar are purely mechanical (non-copyrightable) changes with possibly large numbers of changed lines. Which is one reason why I

Re: Adding missing copyright years

2005-05-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:24:56 +1200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org How about developing a script to update these changes automatically? This is Emacs, so doing this in Lisp would be the default ;-) Also, given the comments David and others posted, I think

Re: Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-05-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:01:00 -0400 Let me be sure I understand you correctly, Kim: are you actually saying that this is a good feature, the way it behaves in current CVS?

Re: [mange@freemail.hu: Re: flyspell bug]

2005-05-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Magnus Henoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:04:45 +0200 Subject: Re: flyspell bug So it seems that the variable ispell-really-aspell is moderately useful, as there are three situations: ispell, aspell in ispell compatibility mode, and real

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 14:54:14 +1200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Yes. locate-file seems useful enough to justify a description in the Lisp Reference Manual. Agreed. And it will be, now that it's in NEWS and not marked as already documented. However, I

Re: Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-05-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 12:12:37 -0400 It looks like I changed the wrong marker, and indeed it appears not to work. If your change does the job, please delete mine. Done.

Re: flyspell bug

2005-05-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 03:06:48 +0300 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I installed a slightly different change (using locate-file instead of executable-find). Now with using a non-default dictionary ispell.el fails

Re: flyspell bug

2005-05-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:07 +0300 Note that automatic changing the value of `ispell-program-name' in `ispell-check-version' might surprise users of the aspell's

Re: flyspell bug

2005-05-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:23:48 +0300 ispell and aspell use different dictionaries. Changing the default ispell program name from ispell to aspell is an incompatible change for users configured Emacs to use ispell dictionaries, not aspell dictionaries.

Re: executable-find in files.el

2005-05-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
+ (defun executable-find (command) + Search for COMMAND in `exec-path' and return the absolute file name. + Return nil if COMMAND is not found anywhere in `exec-path'. + ;; Use 1 rather than file-executable-p to better match the behavior of + ;; call-process. + (locate-file command

Re: executable-find in files.el

2005-05-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:16:46 -0400 Yes. But since you obviously didn't read my identical comment posted in response to your suggestion to do what you just did in this version of executable-find (or perhaps you read it,

Re: flyspell bug

2005-05-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:14:47 +0300 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To my surprise I just discovered that the latest development release of ispell.el at http://kdstevens.com/~stevens/ispell-page.html

Re: executable-find in files.el

2005-05-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:42:32 -0400 . on Windows, check_executable uses stat to verify executability . on Posix systems, check_executable uses euidaccess if it's available . by contrast, openp always uses access

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