Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Jambunathan K writes: > Jonathan was the lone saving grace and I should applaud him for > balanced-ness he has shown. Also Nicolas Richard.

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Carsten I opened this thread and I will have the last word. I *guarantee* you, I would have taken up the maintainership. I seem to be a lone dissenting voice which also wanted to *take up* responsibility in a substantial manner at a throwaway price. I had every right to make the restrictions

Re: [O] using export filters to emulate multi-column table cells?

2013-02-14 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Is there any way to use the new exporter mechanisms to emulate table >> cells that span rows or columns on export? I'm envisioning something >> like this: >> >> | | <2col>Grains | | >> | Year | Oats | Wheat |

[O] [TEXINFO] Link bug

2013-02-14 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi, I think the new code to handle split links has broken links that aren't split. Here is an ECM: * Headline to split [[Headline to split]] [[Headline to split]], not! * Editing setup #+name: setup-editing #+header: :results silent #+header: :eval no-export #+begin_src emacs-lisp (require '

[O] Agenda export with E option (Org entry text lines)

2013-02-14 Thread Subhan Tindall
Working with an agenda file, off the rack daily agenda. org-agenda-entry-text-maxlines = 5 All nodes are TODO nodes When I hit E or v E, I see the first few lines of the node When I export using C-x C-w, all I get in the export file is the headlines, not the additional context Even a highlight/cut/

Re: [O] exit code editing buffer without installing the changes

2013-02-14 Thread Rasmus
Not To Miss writes: > Hi org-mode users, > > I know in a source code block, C-c ' will launch a buffer to edit the > source code and C-c ' again will install the buffer back to the code block. > Sometimes I just want to abort all the changes, so I am wondering: Is there > anyway to exit the buffe

[O] exit code editing buffer without installing the changes

2013-02-14 Thread Not To Miss
Hi org-mode users, I know in a source code block, C-c ' will launch a buffer to edit the source code and C-c ' again will install the buffer back to the code block. Sometimes I just want to abort all the changes, so I am wondering: Is there anyway to exit the buffer without installing the changes

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi everyone, may I suggest that we dry up this thread and the related threads? It seems to me that what needed to be said has been said and we should stop providing an arena for a monologue that has become full OT by now. - Carsten

Re: [O] [PATCH] org-contacts: Fix Agenda format.

2013-02-14 Thread Daimrod
Rüdiger Sonderfeld writes: > * contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el: Use `org-agenda-prefix-format' to > format entry instead of unused org-agenda-format. > > Signed-off-by: Rüdiger Sonderfeld > --- > contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el | 6 +++--- > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > > diff

Re: [O] How to improve Org startup time?

2013-02-14 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Memnon, Memnon Anon wrote: > "Sebastien Vauban" writes: >> Bastien wrote: >>> "Sebastien Vauban" writes: >>> However, I've left it in the `org-finalize-agenda-hook' hook, so that the `appt-list' is fed up as soon as I begin using agenda functions. >>> >>> But then org-agenda-to-appt w

[O] obsolete function in org-bibtex.el and merges from emacs

2013-02-14 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hello, org-bibtex.el contains a reference to longlines-mode, which is obsolete in emacs trunk since Dec. 4. When the function was made obsolete, the version of org distributed with emacs was changed to use visual-line-mode (the successor to longlines-mode). But it seems that this change hasn’t m

[O] [PATCH] org-contacts: Fix Agenda format.

2013-02-14 Thread Rüdiger Sonderfeld
* contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el: Use `org-agenda-prefix-format' to format entry instead of unused org-agenda-format. Signed-off-by: Rüdiger Sonderfeld --- contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el | 6 +++--- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el b/contri

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien writes: Hi Bastien, >> It's an optimization done by Bastien. > > I think it's fine to have this by default, the time spared is worth it > IMHO. But I understand many people may want to turn this off. > >> There is a variable to inhibit it. > > (setq org-agenda-inhibit-startup nil) > > I

Re: [O] Anchors in texinfo export

2013-02-14 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Jon, Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes: > Hi Tom, > > On 14 February 2013 12:02, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > >> Hi Jon, >> >> Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes: >> >> [...] >> >> Thanks. I've moved the anchors outside comments and all is well. In >> fact, the entire manual now exports texinfo that makeinfo

Re: [O] [PATCH] org babel execution and new exporter

2013-02-14 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Gregor Kappler writes: > the new exporter currently does not respect `org-export-babel-evaluate' and > evaluates babel src blocks always on export. I did the tiniest change to > ox.el as in the attached patch. > (This is my first patch sent - I hope it works and helps...). Applied. T

Re: [O] How to improve Org startup time?

2013-02-14 Thread Memnon Anon
"Sebastien Vauban" writes: > Bastien wrote: >> "Sebastien Vauban" writes: >> >>> However, I've left it in the `org-finalize-agenda-hook' hook, so that the >>> `appt-list' is fed up as soon as I begin using agenda functions. >> >> But then org-agenda-to-appt will be called each time your generate >

Re: [O] [New exporter] custom emphasis in org-emphasis-alist

2013-02-14 Thread Gregor Kappler
Hi Nicolas, thanks for your replies. I can see that for org syntax stability and to prevent parsing hassle using a variety of characters for emphasis is not desireable. On the other hand, org-emphasis-alist had several advantages that seem not possible with your suggestions. When writing, I

Re: [O] using export filters to emulate multi-column table cells?

2013-02-14 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Is there any way to use the new exporter mechanisms to emulate table > cells that span rows or columns on export? I'm envisioning something > like this: > > | | <2col>Grains | | > | Year | Oats | Wheat | > | 2007 | 10lbs | 40lbs | > >

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Dear Jose E Marchesi I am happy to hear of your endeavors. I am publicly messaging you in my capacity as a well-known and well-recognized idiot [1]. I am myself running an experiment very similar to yours, albeit on a smaller scale. The tasks you have taken upon yourself seem to be big, but re

Re: [O] [PATCH] org babel execution and new exporter

2013-02-14 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Gregor, This patch looks good to me, but I'll leave the actual application of anything dealing with the new export engine to Nicolas. Thanks for contributing! Gregor Kappler writes: > Hi, > > the new exporter currently does not respect > org-export-babel-evaluate' and evaluates babel src bl

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > It's an optimization done by Bastien. I think it's fine to have this by default, the time spared is worth it IMHO. But I understand many people may want to turn this off. > There is a variable to inhibit it. (setq org-agenda-inhibit-startup nil) I

Re: [O] [ox-beamer] Frame subtitles are not handled anymore

2013-02-14 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
"Sebastien Vauban" writes: > Hello Nicolas, > > It took me quite some time, but I'm at the end of converting a 90 slides > presentation from the old to the new exporter. > > In that presentation, there is (just!) one thing which does not work anymore: > the frame subtitles. > > Before, I could

Re: [O] [Warnings] HTML produced by new exporter

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Sébastien, "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > The conclusion is: just a comment, no real error. Closed! IIUC, and to make sure everyone understands: HTML Tidy doesn't distinguish between Some text and Some text and suggests that there may be a duplicate tag. -- Bastien

Re: [O] ocaml babel no longer works?

2013-02-14 Thread Eric Schulte
Alan Schmitt writes: > Hi Eric, > > Eric Schulte writes: > >>> The suggestion: instead of appending '"org-babel-ocaml-eoe";;' to the >>> code, how simply put ';;' (which will make sure everything is flushed) >>> then detect the toplevel is done by seeing the string '# ' at the >>> beginning of th

[O] Invoking org-protocol via emacsclient switches buffer

2013-02-14 Thread Marcus Klemm
Hello Org-Mode team, I wrote myself a small bash script that uses dmenu and emacsclient to get notes into Org-Mode via org-protocol-capture. I've set up some capture templates that fill in the provided information and configured them to immediate finish without further interaction. Most of the ti

[O] [PATCH] org babel execution and new exporter

2013-02-14 Thread Gregor Kappler
Hi, the new exporter currently does not respect `org-export-babel-evaluate' and evaluates babel src blocks always on export. I did the tiniest change to ox.el as in the attached patch. (This is my first patch sent - I hope it works and helps...). Best regards, Gregor >From a955c54f3ecda02b70

Re: [O] Option H: and texinfo export

2013-02-14 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Hello Tom On 13 February 2013 14:58, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Aloha all, > > When the H: option is set to a number > 4, the texinfo exporter > generates a detailed node listing with links to nodes that texinfo > doesn't recognize. IIUC, texinfo recognizes nodes for chapter, section, > subsection,

Re: [O] Anchors in texinfo export

2013-02-14 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Hi Tom, On 14 February 2013 12:02, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Hi Jon, > > Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes: > > [...] > > Thanks. I've moved the anchors outside comments and all is well. In > fact, the entire manual now exports texinfo that makeinfo compiles > without any complaints. > > That's great.

Re: [O] Anchors in texinfo export

2013-02-14 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Jon, Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes: > Hello Tom, > > On 13 February 2013 11:31, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > >> Aloha all, >> >> Currently, the texinfo exporter translates a dedicated target in a comment: >> >> # <> >> >> to this: >> >> @c <> >> >> It shouldn't need to be within a comment to work su

Re: [O] LaTeX preview

2013-02-14 Thread Daimrod
Evan Misshula writes: > +1 This is great, I wanted to do something but did not know how. I > am going to look at the patch. I'm glad to know other people like it too :) > If you have an interest in explaining to an interested Noob what you > did. I would be grateful. Sure, I knew I wanted s

Re: [O] Anchors in texinfo export

2013-02-14 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Hello Tom, On 13 February 2013 11:31, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Aloha all, > > Currently, the texinfo exporter translates a dedicated target in a comment: > > # <> > > to this: > > @c <> > > It shouldn't need to be within a comment to work successfully in the Texinfo exporter. @anchor{} is not visi

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread François Pinard
Jambunathan K writes: > I never remember being rude to you. I do not remember you've ever been rude with me. It's not personal. It's just that I would like Org to return to its peaceful and happy road. You announced in some earlier message that you were unsubscribing from the list. Another a

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread François Pinard
Bastien writes: > Actually, one of the reasons I want to step down in the long run is > that I'm a bit frustrated of not having time enough to focus on big > new features. But the flow of new users and new contributors is > rewarding enough so that maintaining Org keeps being fun :) A good main

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Allen S. Rout
On 02/14/2013 10:36 AM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote: > > Note: Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to the dark > side. > Hate leads to suffering. Get it right. Was that a shark we just jumped over? On 02/13/2013 04:31 PM, Allen S. Rout wrote: > > It would probably be most peaceful

[O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jose E. Marchesi
I offer to take over maintainership of Org, gcc, and the Linux kernel. Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-conditions will be that Org gets ported to Notepad, gcc to be turned into a llvm front-end and Linus sodomized to death. All that under my supervision. Principals and idiots can PM me with y

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
> I have two post-graduate degrees, but I cannot code in elisp so I am quoting from this article. I am wondering, people with two-postgraduate degrees and those with doctoratal and post-doctoral degrees can do better than secretaries. , http://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html | | The editor

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Julian Burgos
> I called the community riffraffs for a reason. They are in truth > riffsraffs. I have two post-graduate degrees, but I cannot code in elisp so I guess I am among the worthless ones (riffraff: 1. People regarded as disreputable or worthless. 2. Rubbish; trash.). To be honest, I do not care who

Re: [O] [Bug] Yasnippet/Org: properties messed up when expanding $1

2013-02-14 Thread Memnon Anon
Karl Voit writes: > So there does not seem to be anybody who is able to fix this issue. > Is there at least somebody who can confirm this weird bug? I tried your snippet, everything fine here with: Org-mode version 7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d) yas, latest git hth Memnon

[O] [ox-beamer] Frame subtitles are not handled anymore

2013-02-14 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hello Nicolas, It took me quite some time, but I'm at the end of converting a 90 slides presentation from the old to the new exporter. In that presentation, there is (just!) one thing which does not work anymore: the frame subtitles. Before, I could write: --8<---cut here---

Re: [O] LaTeX preview

2013-02-14 Thread Evan Misshula
+1 This is great, I wanted to do something but did not know how. I am going to look at the patch. If you have an interest in explaining to an interested Noob what you did. I would be grateful. Best, Evan On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Bastien wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Daimrod writes: > >> He

[O] Links in tables and org-return-follows-link

2013-02-14 Thread Дядов Васил Стоянов
Hi! When I set variable org-return-follows-link to true I expect that it will work on links in tables too (when org-table-editor is on). But it does not. Is it wrong behaviour of org-mode? With best regards, Vasil

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Detlef Steuer
> >> Note: Anger is futile, particularly over the internet. > > > > Sure it is ; but you do look angry. > > You should come see me in my apartment, as I type these words. No one > is having more fun than I am having right now. If that is true, if this is "fun" for you, then you shall underst

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
What Free Software needs is contributors and a good outlet. For Orgmode, the latter problem is solved because Emacs serves as a good and well-known and well-respected clearing house. Recruit more contributors. Get out of the way of existing contributors. Ignore, just plain ignore the riffraff.

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Another question: Why are people Jambu-bashing and Bastien-hugging when I have clearly said that Nicolas Goaziou's work has not been duly recognized. People are selective about what they want to see or hear. --

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
"Nicolas Richard" writes: > but you cannot make an unrealistic offer (don't tell > me you had not foreseen the many negative responses) and then just > somehow say "Too bad for you, I offered to save your souls and you > refused it." Well, I just did. How can you openly refuse to believe what j

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien writes: >> I have seven agenda files, all not too big (~10K on average), and I >> use an averagely performant computer (5 years old dual core laptop). >> For me, the difference between `org-agenda-inhibit-startup' set to t >> or nil is not noticable at all. In both cases, it's less than

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Nicolas Richard
Jambunathan K writes: > I offer to take over maintainership of Org. What's your point ? Trolling ? If not, why do you ask questions in a way that will upset people ? I think it's ok to focus on the code, and focus on what will make the software better and more efficient for as many people as pos

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
For the sake of record, I will Footnote what Bastien wrote. There will be lots of Footnotes, not one or two. But I wouldn't alter the article. Bastien writes: > Hi Jonathan, > > Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes: > >>  Either there's some >> underlying reason for your apparent dislike for Bastien

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
François Pinard writes: > Jambunathan K writes: > >> I offer to take over maintainership of Org. > > -1 > > François > > P.S. I love the Org project, and I strongly hope it stay lovable. The > human qualities of a maintainer, and the crowd surrounding him/her, are > very important to me. In th

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Glyn Millington writes: > Jambunathan K writes: > >> Bastien writes: >> >>> Dear all, >>> Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build a >>> community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs. He >>> has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things easier >

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Bastien writes: > Jambunathan K writes: > >> Bastien writes: >> >>> This is a list to discussion Org-mode. >> >> You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right. > > Well, we don't have a habit of kicking people out for their > first few off-topic posts. I'm confident you will not flood > the l

Re: [O] How to improve Org startup time?

2013-02-14 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn wrote: > "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > >>> But then org-agenda-to-appt will be called each time your generate a new >>> agenda... not sure you really want this right. >>> >>> Why not simply calling it interactively when you need it? >> >> I can't count on myself to do it at

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien writes: Hi Bastien, >> So the problem seems to be that only if an agenda file is opened >> during execution of `org-agenda-list', it's expanded completely. >> Else, `org-startup-folded' works correctly. > > Exactly -- hence this commit: > > http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn writes: > I have seven agenda files, all not too big (~10K on average), and I use > an averagely performant computer (5 years old dual core laptop). For > me, the difference between `org-agenda-inhibit-startup' set to t or nil > is not noticable at all. In both cases,

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Bastien writes: > Actually, one of the reasons I want to step down in the long run is > that I'm a bit frustrated of not having time enough to focus on big > new features. You are a student of philosophy, aren't you? Where you put your efforts is where your allegiances lie. The rest all is m

Re: [O] Bug: ox-html.el does not take into consideration #+attr_html during table export [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-956-g3943be.dirty @ /home/vdyadov/Work/Tools/emacs/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Thanks for reporting this and for the patch. I've applied a different patch, which appends attributes to the default ones, which is what most users expect IMHO. Best, -- Bastien

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien writes: Hi Bastien, >> Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness, >> and the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of >> `org-startup-folded' and the #+STARTUP property. > > I just updated the docstring of org-startup-folded and mentioned > `org-agenda-i

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn writes: > So the problem seems to be that only if an agenda file is opened during > execution of `org-agenda-list', it's expanded completely. Else, > `org-startup-folded' works correctly. Exactly -- hence this commit: http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?i

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Glyn Millington
Jambunathan K writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Dear all, >> Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build a >> community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs. He >> has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things easier >> for him. >> This is free software

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Jambunathan K writes: > Bastien writes: > >> This is a list to discussion Org-mode. > > You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right. Well, we don't have a habit of kicking people out for their first few off-topic posts. I'm confident you will not flood the list with OT posts. -- Bastien

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Bastien writes: > This is a list to discussion Org-mode. You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right. > To discuss moral aspects of using or contributing to Emacs, > please use news:alt.religion.emacs > > Who knows, you might also end up quoted in emacs/etc/DEVEL.HUMOR, > which is my own per

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Tassilo Horn writes: > Since recently, after starting up emacs and bringing up an org agenda > which loads all my agenda files into buffers as a side-effect, all > entries in all files are fully expanded, although org-startup-folded > is set to t. > > I've tried adding a > > #+STARTUP: fold > >

Re: [O] [ANN] outorg.el -- reverse Org-Babel

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Thorsten, Thorsten Jolitz writes: > Some enlightment is welcome. Can't really help here... as I lost track of the exact problem you are trying to solve :) -- Bastien

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
This is a list to discussion Org-mode. To discuss moral aspects of using or contributing to Emacs, please use news:alt.religion.emacs Who knows, you might also end up quoted in emacs/etc/DEVEL.HUMOR, which is my own personal Graal. -- Bastien

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/02/13 10:50, Jambunathan K wrote: > >> Yes - we want to know - tell us and don't talk in riddles. > > I offer no ready-made solutions. Riddles need work, true. > My last question: Solutions for what? - -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservatio

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
> Yes - we want to know - tell us and don't talk in riddles. I offer no ready-made solutions. Riddles need work, true. --

[O] Bug: ox-html.el does not take into consideration #+attr_html during table export [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-956-g3943be.dirty @ /home/vdyadov/Work/Tools/emacs/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Дядов Васил Стоянов
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list. -

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn writes: > Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness, and > the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of > `org-startup-folded' and the #+STARTUP property. I just updated the docstring of org-startup-folded and mentioned `org-agenda-inhi

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Jambunathan K writes: > Aha! You are not forced to fill people's Inboxes. ^^^ now

[O] Let's use labels for the exporters on this list

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi all, we already try to use [FR], [BUG] and [PATCH] for feature requests, bugs and patches, and [BABEL] for Babel related questions. I suggest to use [HTML], [LaTeX], [TEXI]... when the email is about one of the exporters. I'm fine with either [FR,HTML] or [FR] [HTML] -- the whole point is to

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Bastien writes: > Dear all, > > Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build > a community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs. > He has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things > easier for him. > > This is free software, and the ability to fork is w

Re: [O] How to improve Org startup time?

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
"Sebastien Vauban" writes: >> But then org-agenda-to-appt will be called each time your generate >> a new agenda... not sure you really want this right. >> >> Why not simply calling it interactively when you need it? > > I can't count on myself to do it at a regular enough interval (at least > da

Re: [O] Problem to export an orgmode file to pdf

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Steve, "Steve Prud'Homme" writes: > 24.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin) Please help us more by sharing more information. I assume Org is 7.8.11 but we would need to know more about the document you tried to export. If you haven't, reading the section in the manual on how to report bugs is useful too!

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
"Sebastien Vauban" writes: >> Everything is completely expanded after the initial startup. > > It's an optimization done by Bastien. There is a variable to inhibit > it. Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness, and the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/02/13 07:45, Jambunathan K wrote: > > (Discussion is meta. So bear with my amateurish excursions.) > > Some times the best question to ask is NOT "What I stand to gain?" but "What > I/We stand to > lose?". Are the overheads worth it in the l

Re: [O] Fwd: Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
Samuel Wales writes: > some people should not be on a mailing list, much less play a critical > role. This is such a case. Do you have the, lock do you? Otherwise, you are at the mercy of who hold the lock and the keys. > Samuel Wales --

Re: [O] Bug: org-insert-heading-respect-content inserts at the wrong level if target heading is invisible [7.9.2 (release_7.9.2-883-g6fb36e.dirty @ /home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi James, James Harkins writes: > I can, in about a week. I'm traveling, without my laptop (first time > in years I've left it at home - phone and tablet only for this > trip). FYI I applied the patch to the maint branch, so you can simply test it from there. Let me know, thanks, -- Bastien

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes: >  Either there's some > underlying reason for your apparent dislike for Bastien and his > approach to maintaining > Org, or some argument in the past that I am not aware of. For the sake of clarity (and history), here is how I understand why Jambunatha

Re: [O] bbdb or bbdb3 or org-contacts

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Greg, Daimrod writes: > I think I haven't been clear, I would like to have write access to the > upstream repository to merge my changes Great -- please send me your public key. > but I will also keep my github > version as a "bleeding edge" version to make it easier to test and > propose c

Re: [O] LaTeX preview

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Greg, Daimrod writes: > Here is a better formatted patch: I applied this change, thanks a lot! -- Bastien

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and > what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See > > http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback > > Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing l

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
"Allen S. Rout" writes: > On 02/13/2013 03:45 PM, John Wiegley wrote: > >> I didn't even realize Bastien was looking for a replacement. > > > There's no technical reason someone interested in making an offer should > necessarily wait for a declared vacancy. It seems a straightforward > move of

[O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list. -

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Jambunathan K
I wrote the exporters and contribute to Emacs just because I feel decades (or couple of decades) down the road when Carstens, Bastiens, Nicolas, Erics and all others fade in to irrelevance and obscurity, Emacs and by extension Orgmode will continue to be used by some enterprising student in one of

Re: [O] Offer for taking over maintainership

2013-02-14 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
> I offer to take over maintainership of Org. -1 too (or -infinity, if allowed, as previously suggested). -- Ramon Diaz-Uriarte Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25 Facultad de Medicina Universidad Autónoma de Madrid Arzobispo Morcillo, 4 28029 Madrid Spain Phone: +34-91-497-2412 Email: