On 2020-12-18 16:49, Asa Zeren wrote:
Have people looked at sourcehut (https://sourcehut.org)? While it's
still in alpha, and so has a number of rough edges, it seems pretty
promising. Sourcehut is trying to build a platform with accessible web
uis that is backed by mailing lists. Just annother
Subject: Re: Release Org 9.4.2
Gustav Wikström writes:
> It is my believe that Org would benefit from a counter that would "tic
> up" even if no one collects the money. Like it or not, money has an
> effect. Better to allocate it to open source work than anything else! O
Gustav Wikström writes:
> It is my believe that Org would benefit from a counter that would "tic
> up" even if no one collects the money. Like it or not, money has an
> effect. Better to allocate it to open source work than anything else! Or?
I've never used it, but could something like
* Bastien [2020-12-22 19:20]:
> TEC writes:
>
> > I think this conversation deserves it's own thread, perhaps something
> > like "Org's development forge".
>
> Please don't open this topic, as there is no plan here.
There need not be any official plan. But why not.
Org mode is all about
TEC writes:
> I think this conversation deserves it's own thread, perhaps something
> like "Org's development forge".
Please don't open this topic, as there is no plan here.
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Bastien
I've been following this conversation, and I'm glad to see it happening.
However, we've really stayed quite far from the subject of our emails :P
I think this conversation deserves it's own thread, perhaps something
like "Org's development forge".
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Timothy
Lennart C. Karssen writes:
>
On 16-12-2020 19:41, Tim Cross wrote:
>
>
> Github is not an option here. The problem is, github encourages the use
> of proprietary, non-free software, which conflicts with the GNU's
> primary goal of software freedom. As Org mode is a GNU project, it
> cannot use Github in any fashion which
On Friday, 18 Dec 2020 at 16:49, Asa Zeren wrote:
> Have people looked at sourcehut
Looks interesting and seems to work fine with eww (but haven't stressed
test this) which is a bonus.
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: Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.3-150-g6b83c6
Have people looked at sourcehut (https://sourcehut.org)? While it's still in
alpha, and so has a number of rough edges, it seems pretty promising. Sourcehut
is trying to build a platform with accessible web uis that is backed by mailing
lists. Just annother option to consider, though there is no
i just wanted to say thanks to everybody who maintains org.
somebody said a counter for donations might be useful even if nobody
collects it. i am not able to follow this discussion closely for
health reasons, but one possibility, which you can reject if you like,
but which i mention because
Eric,
> Sure, and I do use it this way, but I had the impression that it was the
> non-git aspects that were being put forward as being somehow helpful. I
> could be wrong.
i'm not a git-spert. but, the "pull requests" mechanism and "issues"
(but reports), are maybe bits of git*.com that
On Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 16:13, Loris Bennett wrote:
> But even if a project is hosted on GitHub, you can still interact with
> it just via Emacs, it is still Git after all.
Sure, and I do use it this way, but I had the impression that it was the
non-git aspects that were being put forward as
Loris Bennett writes:
> Eric S Fraga writes:
>
>> On Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 13:04, Gustav Wikström wrote:
>>> But to be fair, the collaboration features of GitHub surely would be a
>>> BIG net positive if the goal is to attract contributions and gain a
>>> bigger mindshare.
>>
>> Not
Gustav Wikström writes:
>> From: Emacs-orgmode on behalf
>> of TEC
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 08:14
>> To: Bastien
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Pankaj Jangid
>> Subject: Re: Release Org 9.4.2
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I actually
> From: Eric S Fraga
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 15:50
> To: Gustav Wikström
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Release Org 9.4.2
>
> On Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 14:11, Gustav Wikström wrote:
> > I for on
Eric S Fraga writes:
> On Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 13:04, Gustav Wikström wrote:
>> But to be fair, the collaboration features of GitHub surely would be a
>> BIG net positive if the goal is to attract contributions and gain a
>> bigger mindshare.
>
> Not necessarily. Some of us dislike web
Gustav Wikström writes:
> But to be fair, the collaboration features of GitHub surely would be a
> BIG net positive if the goal is to attract contributions and gain a
> bigger mindshare. That together with an open collective funding model
> of some sort. Because let's be fair. This is a hobby
On Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 14:11, Gustav Wikström wrote:
> I for one wouldn't feel sorry if we (the world) could collect
> resources to make working with Org mode a financially viable way of
> life for someone.
I think that's already possible, or least it was with the old web site:
there
> From: Eric S Fraga
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 14:49
> To: Gustav Wikström
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Release Org 9.4.2
>
> ...
>
> Why cool? What's cool is that so many contribute, in a wide range of
> ways, without some financial re
On Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 13:04, Gustav Wikström wrote:
> But to be fair, the collaboration features of GitHub surely would be a
> BIG net positive if the goal is to attract contributions and gain a
> bigger mindshare.
Not necessarily. Some of us dislike web based tools intensely, in fact
> From: Emacs-orgmode on behalf
> of TEC
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 08:14
> To: Bastien
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Pankaj Jangid
> Subject: Re: Release Org 9.4.2
>
> ...
>
> I actually have a few thoughts on this. I'm afraid that I don't think
&g
Hello. I just have a few cents I'd like to add.
Bastien writes:
> Thanks a lot for the kind words, appreciated.
You deserve them! :)
> ... but I'm very receptive to the real questions: how can we expose
> the latest Org to more testers? how can we recruit more contributors?
I actually have
Bastien writes:
> Be reassured, the fact that I shall soon step down has nothing to do
> with the community: in fact, the community is what kept me motivated
> for nearly ten years now!
>
> This decision is a simple combination of me not having enough time
> (which can lead to frustrating
Pankaj Jangid writes:
>> But (1) it is not only *our* decision, it's also in the hands of the
>> Emacs maintainers, which may think otherwise; (2) all the consequences
>> need to be considered, as it is a sensible move; (3) I am on the verge
>> of stepping down as a maintainer, so it is not a
Daniele Nicolodi writes:
>> My question is/are: (1) Why Org is developed outside Emacs, given that
>> it is a core/built-in package. (2) Are there other packages that follow
>> the same process?
>
> AFAIK also cc-mode is developed in a dedicate repository.
>
> From an Emacs development point of
Bastien writes:
>> My question is/are: (1) Why Org is developed outside Emacs, given that
>> it is a core/built-in package.
>
> When Org's development switched to Git (13 years ago, from memory),
> the release cycle was very short. Way shorter than the release cycle
> of Emacs. Also, the
On 15/12/2020 14:58, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
> Eric S Fraga writes:
>
>> On Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 20:49, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
>>> I like testing Emacs on the trunk and I ‘git pull’ and ‘make bootstrap’
>>> daily and use it without any external packages. This is just to make
>>> sure that any
Hi Pankaj,
Pankaj Jangid writes:
> My question is/are: (1) Why Org is developed outside Emacs, given that
> it is a core/built-in package.
When Org's development switched to Git (13 years ago, from memory),
the release cycle was very short. Way shorter than the release cycle
of Emacs. Also,
Eric S Fraga writes:
> On Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 20:49, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
>> I like testing Emacs on the trunk and I ‘git pull’ and ‘make bootstrap’
>> daily and use it without any external packages. This is just to make
>> sure that any external package is not the cause for what appears to
On Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 20:49, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
> I like testing Emacs on the trunk and I ‘git pull’ and ‘make bootstrap’
> daily and use it without any external packages. This is just to make
> sure that any external package is not the cause for what appears to be
> an Emacs bug.
>
> I can
Bastien writes:
> I've released Org 9.4.2, a bugfix release.
>
> This version was merged with the emacs-27 branch:
This is the only code that goes into stable branch first and then into
‘master’. Probably we need tweak the process a bit.
Bastien writes:
>>> I've released Org 9.4.2, a bugfix release.
>>>
>>> This version was merged with the emacs-27 branch:
>>
>> This is the only code that goes into stable branch first and then into
>> ‘master’. Probably we need tweak the process a bit.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand your concern
Hi Pankaj,
Pankaj Jangid writes:
> Bastien writes:
>
>> I've released Org 9.4.2, a bugfix release.
>>
>> This version was merged with the emacs-27 branch:
>
> This is the only code that goes into stable branch first and then into
> ‘master’. Probably we need tweak the process a bit.
Sorry, I
Hi all,
I've released Org 9.4.2, a bugfix release.
This version was merged with the emacs-27 branch:
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?h=emacs-27
Enjoy!
--
Bastien
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