"Fraga, Eric" writes:
> A couple of documents I have used in the past might be useful:
>
> - https://archive.org/details/lshort
This one sounds interesting and it's online.
> - https://texdoc.org/serve/visualFAQ.pdf/0
I'm not sure what language this one is in.
Thanks.
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Anyone have a recommendation for a LaTeX tutorial that would
(especially) help me understand the LaTeX exported by Org and how to
enhance what is exported (new document classes, etc.). I don't want to
bore you all with a lot of questions, so I'm looking for a good book.
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Do you think (some part of) this (semi-)paragraph should be mentioned in
>> the docstring for 'org-open-at-point' (and 'org-open-at-mouse')? I'm of
>> the opinion that, if you walk-thru t
I just noticed that Org timestamps of the following form:
<2006-11-02 Thu 20:00-22:00>
are being changed to this form in HTML export:
<2006-11-02 Thu 20:00>-<2006-11-02 Thu 22:00> # note single '-'
Is this proper?
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>>>> 2. If #1 depends on some org variable settings, can you mention what
>>>> variables control the answer to #1?
>>>
>>> If you mean "can open", then see the next section.
>>
&
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> The documentation page for "4.4 External Links" could provide the
>> answers to following questions:
>>
>> 1. What "file types" are supported by link type "file"?
>
> All.
variables control the answer to #1?
Emacs : GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll
bars)
of 2021-03-27, modified by Debian
Package: Org mode version 9.6 ( @ /home/dsmasterson/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6/)
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"Cook, Malcolm" writes:
>> Eli Zaretskii writes:
>>
>> >> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 59...@debbugs.gnu.org
>> >> From: David Masterson
>> >> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 13:56:03 -0800
>> >>
>> >> In my testing
Eli Zaretskii writes:
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 59...@debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: David Masterson
>> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 13:56:03 -0800
>>
>> In my testing, I found a strange case where, in *scratch*, I get:
>>
>> (message "%s" or
Tim Cross writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> "Michel Schinz" writes:
>>
>>> Just for the record, I also ran into problems when installing Org 9.6
>>> using Emacs' package system on top of an older version that came with
>>> Emacs
...
I think it does.
Side note:
In my testing, I found a strange case where, in *scratch*, I get:
(message "%s" org-version)
;; Error undefined
;; Do 'C-h v org-version'
(message "%s" org-version)
9.3
So, 'describe-variable' on org-version causes Org to be loaded?!? Why
do I have a feeling this is related to this bug?
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> I went so far as to add the following to early-init.el:
>>
>> (if (featurep 'org) (unload-feature 'org))
>> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6")
>>
David Masterson writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Ihor Radchenko writes:
>>
>>> David Masterson writes:
>>>
>>>> Is there a proper way to do this? Do I really have to delete the
>>>> built-in 9.3 version (by hand or packa
David Masterson writes:
> Ihor Radchenko writes:
>
>> David Masterson writes:
>>
>>> Is there a proper way to do this? Do I really have to delete the
>>> built-in 9.3 version (by hand or package-delete?) or will that mess up
>>> something else? I
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Is there a proper way to do this? Do I really have to delete the
>> built-in 9.3 version (by hand or package-delete?) or will that mess up
>> something else? I saw mention of 'unload-feature' which is new
writes:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2022 at 07:54:25PM -0800, David Masterson wrote:
>
>> Question: which end of load-path is "front" if you look at load-path via
>> describe-variable? It's been far too long since my days of Elisp
>> hacking.
>
> This
writes:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2022 at 06:50:33PM -0800, David Masterson wrote:
>> I'm using Debian v11.5 on my Chromebook. I have used 'apt install' to
>> load the pre-built version of Emacs 27.1. I've just found out that it
>> installs a pre-built version
sions that do not have org-assert-version
> become less abundant.
Is Org the only thing that will call 'org-assert-version'? Then assume
that a pre-built version of Emacs/Org is self-consistent. Then
(perhaps?) patch an early spot in Org-9.6 to do:
(if (and (featurep 'org) (< org-version 9.6))
(unload-feature 'org))
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related to 'org=assert-version'.
>> It also removes the ;; generated-autoload-file: "org-loaddefs.el"
>> footer in all files and let Make create org-autoloads.el instead.
>
> I'm worried with how this will play with the Org bundled with Emacs.
It doesn't play in my case.
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ike
hypernole]).
Is there a proper way to do this? Do I really have to delete the
built-in 9.3 version (by hand or package-delete?) or will that mess up
something else? I saw mention of 'unload-feature' which is new to me --
would that be safe to use?
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Marcin Borkowski writes:
> On 2022-11-30, at 20:35, David Masterson wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to attach (say) an image to a task?
>>
>> I'd like to use images to help explain tasks better (or just remind me
>> what my intention was). I imagine you could do s
Mark Barton writes:
>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 11:35 AM, David Masterson wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible to attach (say) an image to a task?
>>
>> I'd like to use images to help explain tasks better (or just remind me
>> what my intention was). I imagine
les
2. Syncing images with Org files to other systems
3. In particular, syncing to smart phones (BeOrg, Orgzly, ...)
4. Any add-on packages that would help
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Jean Louis writes:
> * David Masterson [2022-10-10 19:55]:
>> Jean Louis writes:
>>
>> > * Robert Weiner [2022-10-09 00:06]:
>> >> There are many reasons for this including limits in many
>> >> organizations of the file types that may be tr
s on mobile devices, I
> find most apps way underpowered for constant use. As Emacs becomes more
> usable on mobile devices, we can
> add more mobile-friendly features to Hyperbole.
Because of mobile devices, tasks/notes are not just text.
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rg is lightweight in this area
which is good and bad.
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Jean Louis writes:
> * David Masterson [2022-10-04 21:12]:
>> Robert Weiner writes:
>>
>> > We welcome brief summaries of features you need for effective note
>> > taking in Emacs. We are not looking to do much with images or on
>> > mobile devices,
not require any
> external packages like SQLite.
One major use-case for Org is capturing a task quickly. This can be
done with Org or Mobile-Org (BeOrg, Orgzly). One feature not easily
available is attaching images to the task to better explain the task.
Thoughts on this?
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writes:
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 09:08:13PM -0700, David Masterson wrote:
>> l...@tosk.in writes:
>>
>> > Ihor Radchenko yanta...@gmail.com writes:
>> >>
>> >> > David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com writes:
>> >> >
>&g
l...@tosk.in writes:
> Ihor Radchenko yanta...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> > David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com writes:
>> >
>> > > Does org-publish have options for files with org-crypt entries?
>> >
>> > We do not have an explicit opt
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> I've gotten org-crypt working, but I have some questions:
>>
>> + after decrypting, can I re-encrypt with a new symmetric password?
>
> Yes. AFAIK, the symmetric password is never reused. Though it may
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Does org-publish have options for files with org-crypt entries?
>
> We do not have an explicit option, but you can add org-decrypt-entries
> to your org-export-before-processing-hook.
Thanks
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ss it?
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files are also exported
>> during publishing process. (Lehi Toskin, could you kindly confirm this?)
>>
>> Thus, we may simply extend `org-html-link' to work on .org.gpg files in
>> addition to .org files.
>
> Yes, this is it exactly.
>
Does org-publish have options for files with org-crypt entries?
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David Masterson writes:
> 'C-u C-c C-t' forces a log note to be included with the state change,
> but the state change log note is always *now* (CMIIAW).
>
> Is there a way to change the state on a todo and have it ask for a
> date/time to go with the state change?
>
state to DONE until long after
it was done. I'd like to set the date/time to when it really happened.
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repositories for OO-Browser on
Sourceforge and Savanah, but didn't look close enough to see they were
significantly out-of-date. Warning to others that may go looking.
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to
Bob, I think OO-Browser will bring programmers in to help expand
Hyperbole as well as OO-Browser.
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say) commented Latex that could be
included in the file (via a post-hook) which could then be run through
org-export via org-publish.
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a part of Hyperbole and still developed?
2. Is there a discussion on how to run a KOutline out to Latex and PDF
thru (say) Org export in a way that allows you to take advantage of
Latex packages or even mix-in Org markup?
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eatures may be useful to you as a replacement to a
feature in Org or something to work along side Org. Dig into the
Hyperbole manual...
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> If my recalc function matches, it sets bill/restore-calc-point to a marker
> like this:
>
> (setq bill/calc-point (make-marker))
>
> Since it's normally nil, the advice normally just ignores it.
Thanks. I wanted to learn more about advising functions.
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Juan Manuel Macías writes:
> Hi David,
>
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> I haven't touched Hyperbole in ...decades...? Even then, it was
>> complicated and full-featured (but I still keep it in my .emacs file).
>> My discussions with Bob Weiner were i
ick
> on it to recalculate the org-mode table. Also, if you type a formula
> (and keep the cursor on the same line) and then shift-click recalc,
> it'll handle the formula:
>
>
> | a | 12 |
> | a | 5 |
> #+TBLFM: @1$2=3*4::@2$2=2+3
Isn't this the minor mode orgtbl-mode ?
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te on the text without warping the cursor to the buttons. This is
> how Oberon and WIly work and I think Hyperbole (for my use cases
> anyway) will benefit from this usage style.
Could you provide an example of that function advice?
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Org's project management has been more
interesting to me.
It's nice to see that it's actually still being developed by Bob.
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Tim Cross writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Tim Cross writes:
>>
>>> David Masterson writes:
>>>
>>>> Tim Cross writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Warning: I have not used org-crypt for many years. These days, I ju
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>>> For that use case, I would use asymmetric rather than symmetric
>>> encryuption.
>>
>> Hmm. Point taken. I have to work on understanding asymmetric
>> encryption with org-crypt more.
>
> You
Tim Cross writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Tim Cross writes:
>>
>>> Warning: I have not used org-crypt for many years. These days, I just
>>> use a .org.gpg extensions and symmetrically encrypt the whole file.
>>> However, I think I can proba
Tim Cross writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> I think I've gotten org-crypt working, but I think some things are not
>> making sense (it might be just me):
>>
>> 1. I've set org-crypt-key to nil (symmetric encryption).
>> 2. Can I use a differe
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> I think I've gotten org-crypt working, but I think some things are not
>> making sense (it might be just me):
>>
>> 1. I've set org-crypt-key to nil (symmetric encryption).
>> 2. Can I use
st time?
4. Does org-decrypt only ask for the key the first time?
5. How do they know where to get the password when they don't ask?
6. Shouldn't org-crypt docs in org manual have examples?
Does this make sense -- I think I'm messing something up.
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Is it possible to setup a large (super-)agenda in outline form so that
you can use the folding commands for focus in the Agenda view?
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Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Hello,
>
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Has the format for timestamps covering (say) a few hours changed? The
>> following is still possible with "C-c .", but (I think) it is not
>> documented in the Org-Mode manual:
>>
My mistake -- it is in the (latest?) documentation of "Plain Timestamp"
under "Dates and Times". Eyes are getting old. ;-)
Jude DaShiell writes:
> Not to mention the documentation.
>
>
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021, David Masterson wrote:
>
>> Jude DaShiell
Jude DaShiell writes:
> I think the new standard is better since it allows for work or an agenda
> item to cross one or more Midnights.
If so, then the Org commands should be updated to follow the standard.
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-<2021-11-27 Sat 12:30>
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Karl Voit writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm collecting information on basic Org mode support in tools that
> are not Emacs.
>
> I already have: GitHub, GitLab (exactly like GitHub), OrgModeWeb,
> Orgzly, Orgro, Emacs, vim-orgmode.
* BeOrg (http://beorg.app)
* Organice (http://org
Jakob Schöttl writes:
> Am 02.06.21 um 06:00 schrieb David Masterson:
>> Jakob Schöttl writes:
>>
>>> Am 01.06.21 um 11:53 schrieb Tom Gillespie:
>>>>> We have a pretty similar project, org-parser[1]. It's also written
>>>>> in a Li
h) of you looked at BeOrg (http://beorg.app)? This
is an (iOS) app that implements task management from Org files by
reading and updating the Org file structure. I would assume it uses a
parser to breakdown the Org file structure and rebuild it later. That
is what I see your parsers becoming.
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>> Testing the usefulness of extensions to the grammar before they're added
>> to the grammar..?
>
> For simple cases, there is org-element-update-syntax. Otherwise, you
> will probably better use the usual patch/ne
70c2dd9e19d8d06/laundry/test.rkt#L1371-L1419
> https://github.com/tgbugs/laundry/blob/971cf35683cd60156868c12b070c2dd9e19d8d06/laundry/test.rkt#L1648-L1665
This looks interesting, but I'm not yet familiar with racket & brag -= I
assume laundry doesn't produce any output from the input Org file other
than some form of "good" or "bad" signal. True?
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Could an extensible pre-hook that runs a list of functions take care of
>> the inconsistencies where each function recognizes one change to the
>> standard grammar and adjusts the input accordingly?
>
> Coul
Tim Cross writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>> But having undefined behaviors is limiting on the portability of Org
>> because people are unwilling to pick it up and attempt to (say) create a
>> (partial) Org for other platforms (iPhone, Android, etc.).
> This
things,
> requires consistency between org.el and org-element.el when parsing
> headlines.
Could an extensible pre-hook that runs a list of functions take care of
the inconsistencies where each function recognizes one change to the
standard grammar and adjusts the input accordingly?
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Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Sebastian Miele writes:
>> Sebastian Miele writes:
>>>David Masterson writes:
>>>> Sebastian Miele writes:
>>>>> Currently org-syntax.org says that "TITLE can be made of any
>>>>> character but a n
ot; and no tags.
Can you describe what should happen in a parser grammar (ie. BNF)? If
not, I would tend toward rethinking the structure of the Org file so
that it can be described in a grammar. Having a good grammar for Org
files will promote it's acceptance beyond Emacs.
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Jean Louis writes:
> * David Masterson [2021-04-20 00:59]:
>> What is the current status of having a BNF (or...?) parser for Org
>> files? In particular, the parser rules that could then be adopted by
>> tools that use Org files on other systems (iPhone, Android
s could lead to Org developments on non-Enacs
platforms (smartphones & tablets)
> 0. https://github.com/tgbugs/laundry/blob/next/laundry/parser.rkt note
> the upcoming path change (which I will note in the original thread when
> it happens).
I'll see if I can look at this -- it's been decades since I played with
grammars.
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tps://roopc.net/posts/2014/markdown-cfg/
Thanks
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stems (iPhone, Android, ...)? Given
the availability of parser generators (bison...), this would be good for
breaking into smartphones where Emacs doesn't run.
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generate those data?
Hmm. I don't see a date function in Elisp...
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David Masterson writes:
> I have been using upper-case TAGs and just noticed that
> 'org-agenda-show-tags' is reporting them in lower-case which is not
> right since I have another TAG that is the lower-case version of the
> upper-case TAG (sort of a visual importance i
I have been using upper-case TAGs and just noticed that
'org-agenda-show-tags' is reporting them in lower-case which is not
right since I have another TAG that is the lower-case version of the
upper-case TAG (sort of a visual importance indicator).
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n search for the heading. For the export, wrap
> that in save-window-excursion, and use (org-entry-get) on the heading
> to get the property value.
Hmm. Interesting. I'll have to think about that.
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ot;confidential" information in the phonebook.
Does this make sense? Has it been done?
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eadline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n
> %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} | %a|%:date | "
> :prepend t
> "| | %(my-extract-cc) | | | | | | || | | ||
> | " :prepend t
> )
>
>
> But nothing worked, any ideas?
Break up the line however you wish into quoted substrings and concat
them together..?
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Interesting, but then how do you get the list? I mean is there an
>> agenda to use?
>
> Generally yes, you can use agenda. Or you can use sparse tree (more manual).
> For agenda, if you customise org-log-done, y
Tim Cross writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> What would you use to then make a list of all meetings you had last year?
>
> For me, archiving is about data I'm unlikely to need again, but just in
> case I do, it is in the archive. I rarely look at my archives. Howev
now with org-occur.
> By the way, if you have recurring items, one package that you might find
> useful is org-recur which is on ELPA.
Thanks
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Tim Cross writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> There are many ways of maintaining history in a group of Org files:
>> 1. Archive within a file
>> 2. Archive to a separate (archive) file
>> 3. Special TODO types for history
>> 4. Special TAG types for his
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>> My question is, if you have meetings/phone calls as TODOs, what is the
>> preferred way to handle when they move into history so that, *much*
>> later, you can easily produce a list of all of the meetings/phone calls
>&
handle when they move into history so that, *much*
later, you can easily produce a list of all of the meetings/phone calls
with dates and times of them? The issue (I think) is, when you mark the
TODO as DONE, you lose the info of what the TODO was originally.
Suggestions
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sible text which is causing the problem.
Does anyone recognize this? Forgive the poor bug description, I deleted
org-journal from .emacs.d/elpa to stop Emacs from setting the hook, so,
when I have time, I'll try again.
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Peter Hardy writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>> My issue is (CMIAW) that
>> org-gcal seems to have a 1 to 1 connection between a Google calendar and
>> an Org file (org-gcal-file-alist). I'm trying to figure out how to use
>> this when my workflow is split acr
Neil Jerram writes:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 00:49, David Masterson
> wrote:
>
> Anyone using org-gcal? I just got it hooked up and am now trying to
> figure out how to fit it into my workflow. My issue is (CMIAW) that
> org-gcal seems to have a 1 to 1 connection between
en my workflow is split across many Org files.
Any ideas?
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Kyle Meyer writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Is there a way to get tasks with a deadline that doesn't have a time
>> (just a day) to show on the daily agenda? Tasks w/ timed deadline do
>> show on the daily agenda.
>
> Could you provide a minimal example
Is there a way to get tasks with a deadline that doesn't have a time
(just a day) to show on the daily agenda? Tasks w/ timed deadline do
show on the daily agenda.
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Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Hello,
>
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> David Masterson writes:
>>
>>> My org-publish-project-alist kind of looks like this:
>>>
>>> (setq org-publish-project-alist
>>> '(("orgfiles&
David Masterson writes:
> My org-publish-project-alist kind of looks like this:
>
> (setq org-publish-project-alist
> '(("orgfiles"
>:base-directory "~/DSM/MyOrg/"
>:base-extension "org"
>:publishing-directory
Just wondering -- what's the limit in the number of tags for a headline?
What if I have a headline with lots of tags or some very long tags?
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ay to reshedule it, if it fails 1 week later and if I
> complete it, reshedule 2 weeks later?
You could probably set something up with the org-edna package on MELPA.
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sh always says sitemap.org has been changed
on disk and asks about updating it. Since it is a generated file, that
shouldn't be necessary.
Is there a way to turn that off and just have it overwrite the file?
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n RFE against Org mode *might* be indicated.
Ah! That makes sense. I'll look into it.
Thanks
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Bastien writes:
> Hi David,
>
> Applied as e2bb60581:
> https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/commit/e2bb60581
>
> I'm attaching the patch so that you can see how to format the
> ChangeLog for future contributions.
>
> Best,
Thanks
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wever, why not consider writing your document with Org and then export
to Texinfo?
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Bastien writes:
> Hi David,
>
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> I take it that, when you do an HTML export on an Org file, it is assumed
>> that all items that have been encrypted with org-crypt will have been
>> decrypted, correct?
>
> Is it what you get?
I
appropriate password)?
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Nick Dokos writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Haven't figured this out yet, but I seem to be hitting an "infinite
>> recursion" bug that eventually dies when it runs out of memory.
>>
>> The scenario (so far) is trying to change an Org tag in
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