Reuben Thomas writes:
> Org is nearly 90kLOC, or about 6.5% of the total ELisp code currently in
> Emacs. It's bigger than CEDET, smaller than GNUS.
You hit a point here. GNUS is indeed distributed with Emacs. However
GNUS is even more integrated as even the repo is integrated with Emacs.
May
Achim Gratz writes:
> Phillip Lord writes:
>> I think there's only a few problems, actually. package.el initialization
>> is all or nothing at the moment, and is disabled on emacs -q. Neither of
>> these would make sense if we wanted in built packages.
>
> My opinion is that unless package.el add
Phillip Lord writes:
> I think there's only a few problems, actually. package.el initialization
> is all or nothing at the moment, and is disabled on emacs -q. Neither of
> these would make sense if we wanted in built packages.
My opinion is that unless package.el adds explicit support for
system-
+1 for Keeping Org in Emacs.
Scott Randby
On 12/18/2016 08:20 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it
> in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
> packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs a
Achim Gratz writes:
>> Now that package.el is mature, there's no need for Emacs to include all
>> this stuff in its source releases.
>
> That assertion isn't universally accepted as true. Org in particular
> continues to show how the integration into Emacs as well as some
> functionality in packa
Reuben Thomas writes:
> On 18 December 2016 at 13:20, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it
>> in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
>> packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to
On 19 December 2016 at 15:32, Phillip Lord
wrote:
>
> This kind of idea is, indeed, being actively considered on
> emacs-devel.
That's good to hear!
In fact, I managed to get a simple version of this working
> using package.el during the build process. The idea would be that
> packages in EL
Reuben Thomas writes:
> Org is nearly 90kLOC, or about 6.5% of the total ELisp code currently in
> Emacs. It's bigger than CEDET, smaller than GNUS.
Within the whole of Emacs, an argument about size doesn't make any sense
at all. It's also quite arbitrary, as some functionality that comes
with O
Some thoughts from a beginner:
Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is
installable directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove
Org from Emacs's source repository?
Beginners are overwhelmed with the options and traps, to do something
wrong. It is almost impos
Reuben Thomas writes:
> Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is
> installable directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove
> Org from Emacs's source repository?
I think the fact that this is an issue at all is an indication of a
shortcoming in Emacs' package-man
I am for leaving it to the users discretion as to weather or not they
have Org installed. I think if anyone out there wants to open an .org
file, more than likely, they know what it is and how to get it. If not
there is a plethora of information out there to point them in the right
direction.
Aft
On 18 December 2016 at 19:21, Samuel Wales wrote:
> auto-mode-alist has more than 200 entries. we're gonna remove .org?
>
Org is nearly 90kLOC, or about 6.5% of the total ELisp code currently in
Emacs. It's bigger than CEDET, smaller than GNUS.
It's a project of its own with its own release c
auto-mode-alist has more than 200 entries. we're gonna remove .org?
"you must install org to view this format" is a bit too minimal for my
taste. :) sounds like adobe flash. :)
surely this topic was raised to have a bit of fun seeing all the responses? :)
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+1 (keep it in)
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Xebar Saram wrote:
> +1 for keeping it in
>
> i often debug my org based init config by launching emacs -Q and its great
> to have org built in for that :)
>
> Z
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Christian Moe
> wrote:
>
>>
>> +1.
>>
>> (= Ke
+1 for keeping it in
i often debug my org based init config by launching emacs -Q and its great
to have org built in for that :)
Z
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Christian Moe
wrote:
>
> +1.
>
> (= Keep it in.)
>
> Yours,
> Christian
>
> Carsten Dominik writes:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'd ha
+1.
(= Keep it in.)
Yours,
Christian
Carsten Dominik writes:
> Dear all,
>
> I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it
> in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
> packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .o
On 18 December 2016 at 13:20, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it
> in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
> packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org file
> i
Carsten Dominik writes:
>
> > I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it
> > in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
> > packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org
> file
> > is a big plus. So my vote goes
Carsten Dominik writes:
> I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it
> in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
> packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org file
> is a big plus. So my vote goes toward keep
Carsten Dominik writes:
> So my vote goes toward keeping it in.
1+
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Dear all,
I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it
in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org file
is a big plus. So my vote goes toward keeping it in.
Carsten
On
2 cents from me...
Besides I continuously see many users praising Emacs just for Org
presence (they even may be completely non-technical users), I'm
personally think Org may be removed from Emacs distribution because:
1) all Reuben's argument seems sane;
2) there are situations when someone wants
Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is installable
directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from Emacs's
source repository?
The current situation is left over from before Emacs had package.el, and I
see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big and
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