Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Hi Nicolas, > "manual.org" was updated a month ago, and, so far, nobody complained > about it. So, I think it's a good time to discuss about what could be > done next. Having the manual in .org is a great achievement, congrats to anyone who worked on this titanic task! I'm all for editing

[O] compatible issue between MELPA org and source code org

Because some MELPA package requires `org`. So Emacs will **force** install `org` package from MELPA. But it is delay with source code Org. I use source code org with use-package like this: ``` (use-package org :load-path "~/Code/Emacs/org-mode/lisp/" :pin manual ;; :mode (("\\.org$" .

Re: [O] change in calling remote code blocks?

Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Fixed. Thank you. I also updated documentation and added tests. As a side note, file:name syntax is a bit weak. It prevents using colons in a name, as reported by the linter. I don't know if the feature is used extensively but it may be worth

Re: [O] change in calling remote code blocks?

I agree. use `file::name` is better. [stardiviner] GPG key ID: 47C32433 IRC(freeenode): stardiviner Twitter: @numbchild Key fingerprint = 9BAA 92BC CDDD B9EF 3B36 CB99 B8C4 B8E5 47C3 2433 Blog: http://stardiviner.github.io/ On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:24 AM,

[O] properties using other properties

Is there a way to set properties using other properties? Doesn't matter if its on export only, though it would be nice to have it in-situ. here's an example (obviously doesn't work), where a project properties for the project client only needs the CLIENT property filled, the rest of it

Re: [O] do you need a separate LaTeX installation to export org mode files to pdf?

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:57 AM Christopher W Ryan wrote: > Would they need to install LaTeX too, or is org mode self-contained and > able to export to pdf without LaTeX an friends installed? > Yes, they'd need to have a LaTeX distribution installed on their system. In my

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:56 AM Rasmus wrote: > > Could we use .dir-locals.el to ensure that the correct settings are > loaded? > +1 As for their values, I have no strong preferences, but I’d prefer settings > are either automatically loaded or that they are like the default

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Hello, Bastien Guerry writes: > Before moving manual.org into doc/, I'd suggest we agree on editing > variables like `fill-column' and the like: > > fill-column: 70 This is already the case. > org-list-description-max-indent: 5 > org-edit-src-content-indentation: ? It is 2. I'd

Re: [O] change in calling remote code blocks?

Hello, John Kitchin writes: > I don't recall how I learned about that, I guess maybe in some library of > babel documentation somewhere. I confirmed it does work in 8.2.10, e.g. > just with emacs -Q. > > There are a few changes in org 9 to org-babel-lob-execute-maybe >

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Bastien Guerry writes: >> Why do we need it? If it is mandatory (I fail to see why, since we >> provide the source of the info file), can we include it read-only? > > It is mandatory, as long as the GNU standard for documentation is to > provide it as a .texi file. It can always be generated for

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Kaushal Modi writes: > Thank you. I'd like to see Org snippets in src blocks as they are not any > "raw" monospace text blocks. But if no one else has a strong opinion for > using src blocks for Org snippets, then I guess I'll have to concede. There is another issue with

Re: [O] do you need a separate LaTeX installation to export org mode files to pdf?

Hello Christopher I have a docker image with LaTeX installed in order not to "pollute" my local filesystem with the 4GB of additional libraries a full LaTeX installation requires. If your co-worker is a software developer you could use that approach. Here is mi Dockerfile for LaTeX: FROM

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:35 AM Bastien Guerry wrote: > what do you think of the proposal to have > > (setq org-adapt-indentation 'content) > > set :PROPERTIES: aligned with the beginning of the headline, > while leaving content unindented? > > I'd also like to have the better

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Bastien Guerry writes: > I've added (org-list-description-max-indent . 5) OK. > Me too, for the same argument. But this points to a strong limitation > to `org-adapt-indentation' for which I'd like to propose this change. > >(setq org-adapt-indentation t) => current

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:02 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > "manual.org" is not meant to be exported to HTML through "ox-html", but > using Texinfo itself. AFAIK, Texinfo does not highlight specially Org > syntax, so using "begin_src org" is not very important for export. >

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Aloha Bastien, Bastien Guerry writes: Hi Nicolas, "manual.org" was updated a month ago, and, so far, nobody complained about it. So, I think it's a good time to discuss about what could be done next. Having the manual in .org is a great achievement, congrats to anyone who worked on

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Kaushal Modi writes: > I am hoping that using "begin_src org" preserves the meta data that a code > block is an Org snippet when the Org manual HTML pages are published on > orgmode.org. Again, Org manual, as published in "orgmode.org", is generated through Texinfo,

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Hello, Kaushal Modi writes: > I'd prefer "begin_src org". When these manuals are converted to HTML, we > can use syntax highlighting to format comments, etc in Org snippets. I > think it's good to retain the meta data that that is not an arbitrary block > of text, but

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Hi Nicolas, thanks for your answer. Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> fill-column: 70 > > This is already the case. Okay, I've found .dir-locals.el. >> org-list-description-max-indent: 5 >> org-edit-src-content-indentation: ? > > It is 2. I'd favor 0, but I don't care much.

Re: [O] do you need a separate LaTeX installation to export org mode files to pdf?

Christopher W Ryan writes: > I'm a longtime LaTeX user and a more recent org mode user. So I've always > had LaTeX installed on any computer on which I was using org mode. I'd like > to introduce org mode to a co-worker unfamiliar with the whole concept of > plain text

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Hi Kaushal, Kaushal Modi writes: > I have always started PROPERTIES at col 0. With org-indent-mode > enabled, it doesn't matter.. looks pretty (PROPERTY drawer in below > screenshot actually starts at col 0): what do you think of the proposal to have (setq

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Kaushal Modi writes: >   - use example blocks for Org syntax instead of "begin_src org", > > > I'd prefer "begin_src org". When these manuals are converted to HTML, > we can use syntax highlighting to format comments, etc in Org > snippets. I think it's good to retain

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:51 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > org-edit-src-content-indentation: ? > > It is 2. I'd favor 0, but I don't care much. > I also favor 0, less white space noise, the better. > > This is necessary so that contributors don't mess up accidentally

Re: [O] do you need a separate LaTeX installation to export org mode files to pdf?

Hi all, >> Would they need to install LaTeX too, or is org mode self-contained and >> able to export to pdf without LaTeX an friends installed? > > > Yes, they'd need to have a LaTeX distribution installed on their system. In > my experience, installing the full latest version of TexLive is the

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

Bastien Guerry writes: > I'm all for editing manual.org instead of org.texi in the long run. > > Before moving manual.org into doc/, I'd suggest we agree on editing > variables like `fill-column' and the like: > > fill-column: 70 > org-list-description-max-indent: 5 >

[O] do you need a separate LaTeX installation to export org mode files to pdf?

I'm a longtime LaTeX user and a more recent org mode user. So I've always had LaTeX installed on any computer on which I was using org mode. I'd like to introduce org mode to a co-worker unfamiliar with the whole concept of plain text files, markup, and literate programming, etc. Would they need

Re: [O] [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:20 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Again, Org manual, as published in "orgmode.org", is generated through > Texinfo, which treats "begin_src org" exactly as "begin_example". So, > switching to "begin_src org" will not give us Org fontification in