Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 6:37 PM Thomas S. Dye wrote: > > Interested lurker here. From the biblatex-chicago manual: > > "You can load the package via the usual \usepackage{biblatex}, > adding either style=chicago-notes or style=chicago-authordate" Alas, I get errors when I use that invocation.

Re: [PATCH] org-faq.org: Expand "What is the best setup for indenting?"

2021-05-20 Thread Greg Minshall
Maxim, > The patch removed this phrase. sorry about that. > I have no idea how to express it in a better way. The tables are same > for Org >= 9.5 and for Org < 9.5 (modulo bugs in indentation fixed in > 9.4.6). Only default configuration evolves in time. again, i apologize. my confusion was

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Interested lurker here. From the biblatex-chicago manual: "You can load the package via the usual \usepackage{biblatex}, adding either style=chicago-notes or style=chicago-authordate" All the best, Tom Denis Maier writes: Hi, Am 20.05.2021 um 19:06 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: Hello,

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Hi, Am 20.05.2021 um 19:06 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:57 AM Denis Maier wrote: I'm not really sure we need bare substyles at all. At least in biblatex it's the basis for the other commands. Though see my followup message on

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 20.05.2021 um 19:15 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: Hello, Denis Maier writes: By the way, I have the impression we can easily get rid of the bare-variants completely. If we don't need footcitetext (or if we rename the variant to note/text as that would be more appropriate, we can something like

Re: Custom <> possibility?

2021-05-20 Thread Jean Louis
* Samuel Wales [2021-05-21 01:19]: > thanks for pointing us to this variable. > > docstring says "This process ensures that these values are unique and > valid...", so it sounds like you could create non-unique or invalid > identifiers without it. > > does this mean, for example, if the user

Re: Custom <> possibility?

2021-05-20 Thread Jean Louis
* Nicolas Goaziou [2021-05-20 23:00]: > > Is there a possibility to tell Org, that <> really remains > > "target" as in id="target" instead of a random ID? > > See `org-html-prefer-user-labels'. Thanks. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns

Re: Custom <> possibility?

2021-05-20 Thread Samuel Wales
thanks for pointing us to this variable. docstring says "This process ensures that these values are unique and valid...", so it sounds like you could create non-unique or invalid identifiers without it. does this mean, for example, if the user exports a subtree with two link targets with the

Re: Custom <> possibility?

2021-05-20 Thread Samuel Wales
thanks for the example. yes, that is the example i was thinkng of. i was asking, why does adding uniqueness do any good currently. if the user has your example as follows, it does create duplicates in the output, but i don't get why that all by itself needs fixing by default. ===vvv I may try

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Bummer! This non-minimal example (modified from a document that originally called biblatex-chicago directly) works for me: \usepackage[style=chicago-authordate, giveninits=true, uniquename=mininit, noibid, sortcites=true, backend=biber, bibencoding=utf8]{biblatex} All the best, Tom

[PATCH] org.el: Make sure (org-agenda-files) search relative file paths in org-directory

2021-05-20 Thread Sun Lin
Hi Nicolas,  Please help review and merge this patch. Thanks Best Regards Sun.Lin From e963bd5554b076c813cde1f59d75f0686fec8a14 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Sun Lin Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 09:52:33 + Subject: [PATCH] org-agenda-files: work with relateive file paths. * lisp/org.el

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 19.05.2021 um 17:23 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: Denis Maier writes: In that case, I'd think that note/bare => footcitecite isn't a particular good fit. Footcitetext puts the citation in a footnote, just that it doesn't print a footnote mark in a running text. (This is useful in cases where the

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Rudolf Adamkovič
"Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Tue, May 18, 2021, 11:45 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > I don't use biblatex either; hopefully some folks that do can test > this. I could test this. I write multiple posts in APA style every week, all with citations, and I cannot wait to use Org instead of LaTeX

can't install footnotes in certain table cells

2021-05-20 Thread Uwe Brauer
Hi In the following table: It is possible to insert a footnote in a regular way, right now I cannot. What shell I do? What is the recipe to insert footnotes in all cells. Thanks Uwe Brauer | this | that | | | | F | | | |--+--+-+---+-+---+---+---| |

[can't insert footnotes in all table cells] (was: can't install footnotes in certain table cells)

2021-05-20 Thread Uwe Brauer
>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer writes: > Hi > In the following table: The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

[org-footnote--allow-reference-p] (was: [can't insert footnotes in all table cells])

2021-05-20 Thread Uwe Brauer
>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer writes: >>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer writes: >> Hi >> In the following table: > The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I > cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table. It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p is the

Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

2021-05-20 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Hi Uwe, Uwe Brauer writes: > It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p > is the culprit, but which places are *forbidden* the doc string does not > say much. If you mean to insert a note in an empty cell, you can insert just before the note mark a zero width space (M-x

Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

2021-05-20 Thread Uwe Brauer
>>> "JMM" == Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Hi Uwe, > Uwe Brauer writes: >> It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p >> is the culprit, but which places are *forbidden* the doc string does not >> say much. > If you mean to insert a note in an empty cell, you can insert just >

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:18 AM Denis Maier wrote: > Could be, but also [cite/text/bare] or cite/foot/bare or cite/super/bare > as they all are essentially just wrappers around the plain cite command > (textcite is a bit different, but parencite and footcite really have the > same definition as

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 3:22 AM Rudolf Adamkovič wrote: > I could test this. I write multiple posts in APA style every week, all > with citations, and I cannot wait to use Org instead of LaTeX for all my > work. Is it possible to test this with use-package somehow? Note, I am > still fairly new

Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

2021-05-20 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Uwe Brauer writes: > Ah! That was it, thanks! > I think the documentation of org-footnote-action > could be a bit more explicit and cover this case. In the manual the use of the zero width space character is in the section 'Escape Character'. Perhaps it would be nice to add more usage examples.

An attempt to prepare critical editions within Org

2021-05-20 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Hi, If there is a philologist among the colisters who is working on critical editions (a type of text with several complex apparatus of footnotes and endnotes, and with numbering and various material at the margin ---an example of critical edition I recently typesetted for a German publisher:

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 7:56 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > I take that summary to mean this basic question can be handled by a > combination of autocite and export config; autocite=inline (or > autocite=footnote) as default export, but of course configurable? An example of using the autocite

[BUG] org-babel: Binding a cons in var header arg yields error [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g914fe8 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

2021-05-20 Thread Ihor Radchenko
With the following org file on master: #+name: gen #+begin_src emacs-lisp (cons 1 2) #+end_src #+header: :var inp=gen() #+begin_src emacs-lisp inp #+end_src C-c C-c on the second code block yields: executing Emacs-Lisp code block (gen)... (1 . 2) org-babel-disassemble-tables: Wrong type

Re: Release 9.4.6 (bugfix)

2021-05-20 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Bastien writes: > Org 9.4.6, a bugfix release, is out, avaiable in Org ELPA > and as a standalone archive. > > Hopefully this will be the last one before we release 9.5. Thanks! Adding release header ;) Best, Ihor

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
So backing up a bit, as I was getting confused, here's [1] one summary of the different core biblatex commands. - \cite [autocite=plain]: Citations are typeset as-is; - \parencite [autocite=inline]: Citations are typeset in parentheses; - \footcite [autocite=footnote]: Citations are typeset as

Re: Release 9.4.6 (bugfix)

2021-05-20 Thread Bastien
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Adding release header ;) Oh, thanks - sorry I forgot this! -- Bastien

Re: [PATCH] etc/ORG-NEWS: Suggest against disabling `electric-indent-mode'

2021-05-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Maxim, applied as 507cf71de in master, thanks! For your next patch to be perfect, please include a commit message: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#commit-messages -- Bastien

Re: An attempt to prepare critical editions within Org

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 20.05.2021 um 13:45 schrieb Juan Manuel Macías: Hi, If there is a philologist among the colisters who is working on critical editions (a type of text with several complex apparatus of footnotes and endnotes, and with numbering and various material at the margin ---an example of critical

Re: [PATCH] org-faq.org: Expand "What is the best setup for indenting?"

2021-05-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Maxim, applied in Worg, thanks! -- Bastien

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 20.05.2021 um 12:36 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:18 AM Denis Maier wrote: > >> Could be, but also [cite/text/bare] or cite/foot/bare or cite/super/bare >> as they all are essentially just wrappers around the plain cite command >> (textcite is a bit different, but

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 20.05.2021 um 13:56 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: So backing up a bit, as I was getting confused, here's [1] one summary of the different core biblatex commands. - \cite [autocite=plain]: Citations are typeset as-is; - \parencite [autocite=inline]: Citations are typeset in parentheses; - \footcite

Re: new org-contrib and straight.el

2021-05-20 Thread Greg Minshall
Nick, > I've merged the develop branch into the master branch this morning, > too. So you should be able to reap that benefit on either branch, but > I still recommend using the lockfiles to your advantage. thanks again. since "we" have you on the line, i wonder if i might impose on you and

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 20.05.2021 um 15:22 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:07 AM Denis Maier wrote: Am 20.05.2021 um 12:36 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:18 AM Denis Maier wrote: But maybe cite/plain or cite/basic or so? First, are those two suggestions just synonyms for

Re: [PATCH] org-faq.org: Expand "What is the best setup for indenting?"

2021-05-20 Thread Maxim Nikulin
Thank you for your comments, Greg. On 20/05/2021 01:06, Greg Minshall wrote: > > patches to patches... :) i think these are really just typos, rather > than any useful substantial comment. > > - s/is enable (the default) or not:/is enabled (the default) or not:/ The patch removed this phrase.

Re: Updating column view dynamic block does not work with {est+}

2021-05-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Axel Kielhorn writes: > In columnview mode the estimate is calculated[1] but the dynamic block > doesn’t get updated. > > I did some bisecting and the last version where both column view and dynamic > block were working is: > > Merge branch 'maint' 1aeb958e5 Marco Wahl >

Re: Updating column view dynamic block does not work with {est+}

2021-05-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Axel Kielhorn writes: >> Am 20.05.2021 um 19:58 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou : >> >> Org Duration is strict about what it is fed with (which is good). Effort >> property expects a duration as value. But "3-8" is not a valid duration. >> However, "3" is a valid duration; it means 3 minutes. > > The

[Patch] tests for org-remove-invisible

2021-05-20 Thread Maxim Nikulin
The main patch that fixes org-remove-invisible to improve list sorting is landed. Let me remind that there were patches that added more test cases: https://orgmode.org/list/s5p88r$go9$1...@ciao.gmane.io Is there any interest in them? In the following subthread Nicolas mentioned that some of

Re: Updating column view dynamic block does not work with {est+}

2021-05-20 Thread Axel Kielhorn
> Am 20.05.2021 um 19:58 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou : > > Org Duration is strict about what it is fed with (which is good). Effort > property expects a duration as value. But "3-8" is not a valid duration. > However, "3" is a valid duration; it means 3 minutes. The problem is that effort can

Custom <> possibility?

2021-05-20 Thread Jean Louis
Is it possible to create a custom <>: From: (info "(org) Internal Links") 1. one item 2. <>another item Here we refer to item [[target]]. That is fine, however, in the HTML output the <> will become something like: another item As I am developing finely grained referenced Org

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:57 AM Denis Maier wrote: > >> >> I'm not really sure we need bare substyles at all. At least in biblatex >> >> it's the basis for the other commands. >> > >> > Though see my followup message on autocite config. >> > >> > Does that

Re: Updating column view dynamic block does not work with {est+}

2021-05-20 Thread Axel Kielhorn
In columnview mode the estimate is calculated[1] but the dynamic block doesn’t get updated. I did some bisecting and the last version where both column view and dynamic block were working is: Merge branch 'maint'1aeb958e5 Marco Wahl 12.02.2017, 09:19 In Use Org duration

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Denis Maier writes: > By the way, I have the impression we can easily get rid of the > bare-variants completely. If we don't need footcitetext (or if we rename > the variant to note/text as that would be more appropriate, we can > something like this: > > > | Style | Variant

Re: Custom <> possibility?

2021-05-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Jean Louis writes: > Is it possible to create a custom <>: > > From: (info "(org) Internal Links") > > 1. one item > 2. <>another item > Here we refer to item [[target]]. > > That is fine, however, in the HTML output the <> will become > something like: another item > > As

Re: [Patch] tests for org-remove-invisible

2021-05-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Maxim Nikulin writes: > The main patch that fixes org-remove-invisible to improve list sorting is > landed. > > Let me remind that there were patches that added more test cases: > https://orgmode.org/list/s5p88r$go9$1...@ciao.gmane.io > Is there any interest in them? > > In the

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 20.05.2021 um 16:11 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:57 AM Denis Maier wrote: I'm not really sure we need bare substyles at all. At least in biblatex it's the basis for the other commands. Though see my followup message on autocite config. Does that change this

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 19.05.2021 um 17:23 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: \cite could be [cite/bare: ...] This would be confusing. So far, "bare" is a style variant. Your suggestion promotes it exceptionally to a full-fledged style. It hurts my logic. :) Could "\cite" be [cite/parens/bare:...] instead? Another

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Denis Maier wrote: > > Am 20.05.2021 um 16:11 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: ... > > 1. I wasn't sure Nicolas was aware of this config option, nor how one > > would configure it currently (but it seems necessary in general) > > No, it's only necessary to configure this if

Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

2021-05-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Uwe Brauer writes: >> The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I >> cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table. There was a bug with _empty_ cells. > It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p > is the culprit Fixed. Thank you. > but

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:07 AM Denis Maier wrote: > > Am 20.05.2021 um 12:36 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:18 AM Denis Maier wrote: > >> But maybe cite/plain or cite/basic or so? > > > > First, are those two suggestions just synonyms for cite/bare? > > Yes. Nicolas

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:57 AM Denis Maier wrote: > >> I'm not really sure we need bare substyles at all. At least in biblatex > >> it's the basis for the other commands. > > > > Though see my followup message on autocite config. > > > > Does that change this discussion? > > Why? I put it in

Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

2021-05-20 Thread Denis Maier
Am 20.05.2021 um 12:36 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:18 AM Denis Maier wrote: Could be, but also [cite/text/bare] or cite/foot/bare or cite/super/bare as they all are essentially just wrappers around the plain cite command (textcite is a bit different, but parencite and