Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-19 Thread Dave Cole
I would leave it in and include a large warning that this installation is experimental/unsupported due to varying reliability issues. I would also include links or suggestions on how to find the history on RPI implementations and issues. I think the RPI is a powerful solution and it will

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-19 Thread Matt Shaver
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 11:05:19 -0800 (PST) "Peter C. Wallace" wrote: > The 7C80 (and 7C81) are SPI interfaced devices Sorry, I confused the two, but SPI is what I meant! :) The whole PiMesa setup seems like a really good way to go for a control... Thanks, Matt

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 21:49, Andy Pugh wrote: > No, the Pi4 makes no sense as a machine controller. I meant, of course, that the Pi400 makes no sense. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 18 January 2021 16:49:54 Andy Pugh wrote: > > On 18 Jan 2021, at 21:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > But that isn't possible if the pi is a pi400 I assume? Too much > > plastic in the way. :( That, and a $4 chomerics style keyboard > > scares me. The pi400 may fill a market niche, but

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread Rod Webster
>No, the Pi4 makes no sense as a machine controller. I got it to be a LinuxCNC dev environment that I can toss in my suitcase when I travel and plug in to the hotel TV Hmm, last night I installed the Linuxcnc dev environment on my Chromebook now it supports Linux in a container using Debinan

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 18 Jan 2021, at 21:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > But that isn't possible if the pi is a pi400 I assume? Too much plastic > in the way. :( That, and a $4 chomerics style keyboard scares me. The > pi400 may fill a market niche, but I don't think we are "that" market. No, the Pi4 makes

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 18 January 2021 15:26:01 andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 20:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats much better Peter, but how long can the cable be? > > Zero (units) > > The Pi plugs straight in to the board. But that isn't possible if the pi is a pi400 I assume? Too much

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:22:12 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: EMC developers To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support? On Monday 18 January 2021 14:05:19 Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 20:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > Thats much better Peter, but how long can the cable be? Zero (units) The Pi plugs straight in to the board. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses,

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 18 January 2021 14:05:19 Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > URL to buy one, maybe more? Found it, too much usefull i/o has > > disappeared, so I'm not that interested. I am using all 4

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021, Gene Heskett wrote: URL to buy one, maybe more? Found it, too much usefull i/o has disappeared, so I'm not that interested. I am using all 4 usb jacks + spi at 40 megabit write and 25 megabit reads, but I suspect

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 17 January 2021 22:44:36 Matt Shaver wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:08:05 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 17 January 2021 12:06:42 Matt Shaver wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:17:57 + > > > > > > andy pugh wrote: > > > > The current linuxcnc-served Raspberry Pi

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Matt Shaver
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:08:05 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 17 January 2021 12:06:42 Matt Shaver wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:17:57 + > > > > andy pugh wrote: > > > The current linuxcnc-served Raspberry Pi realtime kernel does not > > > work with the latest hardware

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Rod Webster
>As for odroid-h2, I have a c2 I put over $100 worth of my SS into at the >time, bricked, trying to install linux thru a UEFI bios that had no >mandatory off switch. Odroid had zero sympathy. I found the Odroid-H2+ bios to be well behaved and booted from both Linux Mint and the Debian Buster

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 17 January 2021 19:05:01 andy pugh wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 23:49, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Andy, I have a working 4.19 kernel. Runs on a pi3b or pi4b. > > But does it run on the new Pi4? That I don't know, if the hardware has been changed from the 2gig rpi4b I bought last

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 23:49, Gene Heskett wrote: > Andy, I have a working 4.19 kernel. Runs on a pi3b or pi4b. But does it run on the new Pi4? The 4.19 kernel on the LinuxCNC server works perfectly well on _my_ Pi4 and on the Pi400 that I bought for testing when this issue was first reported.

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:08:05 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: EMC developers To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support? On Sunday 17 January 2021 12:06:42 Matt Shaver wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2021

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 17 January 2021 10:17:57 andy pugh wrote: > The current linuxcnc-served Raspberry Pi realtime kernel does not work > with the latest hardware revision of the raspberry Pi. > > https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/41092-last-update-of-

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 17:29, Matt Shaver wrote: > Does it work for the 3B+? If so, maybe just add a note to the docs that > this is the hardware you have to use. In my own experience the Pi3 > works well, the Pi4 seems kind of shaky... Well, the Pi4 has the advantage of non-USB Ethernet, which

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 17 January 2021 12:06:42 Matt Shaver wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:17:57 + > > andy pugh wrote: > > The current linuxcnc-served Raspberry Pi realtime kernel does not > > work with the latest hardware revision of the raspberry Pi. > > Does it work for the 3B+? If so, maybe just

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Rod Webster
I'm with Andy, To my mind, we are spreading ourselves too thin on the ground to support multiple Architectures. In my experience, the Odroid H2+ is a much better candidate with an Intel processor and a complete PC that fits in the palm of your hand. Yes it costs a bit more than a PI but it does

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Matt Shaver
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:17:57 + andy pugh wrote: > The current linuxcnc-served Raspberry Pi realtime kernel does not work > with the latest hardware revision of the raspberry Pi. Does it work for the 3B+? If so, maybe just add a note to the docs that this is the hardware you have to use. In

Re: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread Chris Morley
As usual Andy, this sounds reasonable. Could always be revisited in the future if thing change. Chris From: andy pugh Sent: January 17, 2021 3:17 PM To: EMC developers Subject: [Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support? The current linuxcnc-served Raspberry Pi

[Emc-developers] Withdraw Pi support?

2021-01-17 Thread andy pugh
The current linuxcnc-served Raspberry Pi realtime kernel does not work with the latest hardware revision of the raspberry Pi. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/41092-last-update-of-linuxcnc-raspberry-pi4-usb-does-not-work?start=0#194602