Fw: BSMI Standards

1999-07-19 Thread ed . price
Posted for: PRYOR MCGINNIS c...@prodigy.net From: PRYOR MCGINNIS c...@prodigy.net Subject: BSMI Standards Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:28:44 -0400 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Hello All,

Re: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-19 Thread Douglas McKean
John, I can only try to relate safety with the extensive use of shall with ISO certification having gone through the lead auditor course nightmare. For ISO 9001, there's about 136 shalls listed. Get all your shalls right and you *will get* the certification. Miss a shall and you *will

Virtual Grounding (Earthing)

1999-07-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, I have been shown this innovative plug-in product which has a socket for use with any appliance. The product has a virtual grounding system and is used to provide a reliable grounding system to installations where the grounding cannot be relied upon. Has anyone come across a

US NEC and Canadian CEC

1999-07-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, Does anyone have a resource for a Rule of Thumb method for the following pertaining to permanently wired equipment in the US and Canada? I am looking for something that is to the point and without having to use the NEC/CEC. 1. Determine the ampacity of conductors anticipated in the

10 N force Test on Internal Components Prior to Overvoltage Tests

1999-07-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, For IEC 950/UL1950, there is a requirements that before measuring spacings, a 10 N force test is required on internal components. However, there is nothing under the UL/CSA 1950 Overvoltage Tests (for telecom interfaces connected to exposed plant) which requires a similar test

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-19 Thread Gorodetsky, Vitaly
I can't help making this innocuous comment. (English is not my major.) All I have to say is that Europeans are, as usually, more attached to purified English. Shall is stronger (more dictatorial or, if you want, directive) than must. -Original Message- From: John Juhasz

re: ETSI

1999-07-19 Thread Henning, Eric
You can download this standard directly from ETSI at: www.etsi.org eric.henn...@bailey.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For

IEC950 vs. EN 60950

1999-07-19 Thread SMEE Actions Mesures
Daniel, IEC950 and EN60950 are technically the same standards. The EN is a copy of IEC 950 with some common modifications. If you have the EN standard, these modifications are marked with a vertical line in the margin. Pierre SELVA SMEE Actions Mesures - This message is coming from the

RE: IEC950 vs. EN 60950

1999-07-19 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
When a country adopts IEC950, it is sometimes necessary for that country to introduce national deviations due to local laws or conditions. EN 60950 contains EU deviations from IEC 950. -- From: Biggs, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, NA) [SMTP:bigg...@gemischova.ge.com]

RE: NSA

1999-07-19 Thread bma
Richard, You may try different Tx/Rx antenna deployment as well: (1) Move two antennas from their original places. Say, rotate the line between two antennas for 90 degree. You have large enough OATS. (2) Move your Tx antenna a little bit far away from the turn table. The wavelength of 30 MHz

Re: Off Topic Maybe: Hydrogen Fuel Cells

1999-07-19 Thread Richard A. Schumacher
The upshot is that fuel cells for home use will either not use hydrogen at all (e.g., methanol), or will use another hydrocarbon as the input fuel with an internal reformer to make hydrogen on the fly. Hydrogen will not be transported or stored in significant quantities, whether as a gas, a

IEC950 vs. EN 60950

1999-07-19 Thread Biggs, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, NA)
To those LVD expertshow do IEC950 and EN 60950 differ? I understand one is an international standard and one is european but are they considered the same basic standard? DB ___ Daniel W. Biggs HW Development

Indoor use only symbol

1999-07-19 Thread Michael Gusel
Hello group, Several years ago I was told that this symbol is required by DIN 30 600 Reg. No. 02808-3. I do not know whether this requirement is still enforced in Germany. Can someone from Germany clarify ? Thank you. Best Regards,

ETSI TS 102 080

1999-07-19 Thread Nezam Najafi
To All: Dose anyone knows about this document 'ESTI TS 102 080' ? I thank you for your response in advance. Regards, Nezam Najafi Madge Networks - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single

Re: EMC testing laboratories accreditation in Germany ?

1999-07-19 Thread SMKhyser
Dear Mr. Grunberg, For EMC testing laboratories accreditation in Germany, Please contact. Mr. Werner Friedrich - Accreditation Office Regulierungsbehörde für Telekommunikation und Post(Reg TP) Tel.: +49-6131-18-2016 Fax.: +49-6131-18-5622 E-mail: werner.freidr...@regtp.de Best regards Syed

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-19 Thread John Juhasz
Many thanks to those who responded to my query about the use/meanings of the words 'shall' and 'must' in product safety standards. Must and shall appear to be interchangeable. UL1950 uses both (couldn't make up there minds?), but 'must' appears a lot in the Annexes. EN60950 (IEC950) uses

Re: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-19 Thread Paul McCoy
John, For the international and European standards the two terms of concern are shall and should. If a requirement is specified with shall it is mandatory and the wrath of God or his lawyers will be visited upon you for ignoring it. If the requirement is specified with should it is a

Need RF Switch info

1999-07-19 Thread Michael Taylor
I am having no luck finding data on a 6 position RF coaxial switch. Switch was manufactured by Dynatech / U-Z . (PN# M6-433G38FT -- 6 pole-28Vdc - DC-18Ghz). Picked up several surplus (new) to replace patch panel in lab. Anyone have an address / phone / catalogue data showing control

EMC testing laboratories accreditation in Germany ?

1999-07-19 Thread Morel Grunberg
I'm looking for German accreditation for my EMC laboratory and I'm interested to know who is the rellevant body in Germany ( similar to UKAS / NAMAS or NVLAP ). The situation it's little bit confusing for me now, after the massive privatization of many governamental bodies. Any reply will be

FW: NSA

1999-07-19 Thread Arun Kaore
If the problem is on the horizontals, I hope that you have accounted for the Mutual Impedance Correction Factors of Table G4 (CISPR 16-1:1993). Also, check and make sure that your 3 metre antenna factors are ok, no VSWR problems (put a 3 dB pad to check). Do also make sure that there is no