RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread Scott Lacey
Rick, and group members, I thought that I would weigh in with an opinion on this one. The definition of phase should be determined by the requirements of the equipment. If the equipment only requires single phase power, regardless of voltage, then that is what should be specified. It does not

RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread Richardson, William G
The important thing to note is that a good amount of the utility load is not constant power. It is light bulbs, toasters, coffeemakers, hairdryers and electric heaters and so on. So lowering the voltage 10 % is the first step - the so-called brown-outs. Power is a square function, so the new

Re: Trading Standards UK

2001-05-04 Thread John Woodgate
3.0.6.32.20010504170055.00847...@mail.cinepower.com, Enci e...@cinepower.com inimitably wrote: In the UK, what scope does a Trading Standards Officer have with regard to inspecting compliance with European Directives? (LVD EMC) As I understand it, they can inspect the evidence to support a DoC

RE: Back to batteries

2001-05-04 Thread WOODS
These batteries are not sealed against the release of hydrogen gas that is generated during the charging process. I once tested for the concentration of gas in the battery area in a cash drawer enclosure of an electronic cash register and found a very high level - less than what is required for

Back to batteries

2001-05-04 Thread Gary McInturff
Do sealed Gel-lead acid batteries really require vented enclosures? If so why, they don't vent like the liquid lead acid batteries do they? Thanks - Gary --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical

RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread mkelson
It looks like California does run on reduced voltage. See the following URL, for instance: http://www.world.std.com/~techbook/seec2_2.htm http://www.world.std.com/~techbook/seec2_2.htm It says: 2.2.2 North America ANSI C84.1 Electric Power Systems and Equipment - Voltage Ratings (60 Hz)

RE: Is 36-72VDC power supply input still valid?

2001-05-04 Thread Gary McInturff
Hopefully, one our European friends will have a better answer, but my understanding was that in older (don't have a definition of older) European telco you would find the batter stack with 60 V, rather than 48, Then you had to worry about the charging voltage and step down power supplies.

RE: Is 36-72VDC power supply input still valid?

2001-05-04 Thread David Spencer
Hi Paul, I am assuming that you are speaking about telecommunications switching equipment. The upper end of -72 volts supports -60V battery plant found in a few German offices with (I believe) Siemens switches. There is every indication that these systems will not spread to other offices and

RE: UL 1419 Earth Leakage

2001-05-04 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Duncan, Here is the definition of Direct Plug-in Equipment from the EN60950 standard-Equipment that is intended to be used without a power supply cord; the mains plug forms an integral part of the equipment enclosure so that the weight of the equipment is taken by the socket-outlet These are

RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread Ravinder Ajmani
Can someone explain to me how reducing the voltage will lower the power consumption, if the load is kept constant. On the contrary, this should cause an increase in consumption because higher current means increased copper losses in the wiring. This is the reason why power distribution is done

UL 1419 Earth Leakage

2001-05-04 Thread duncan . hobbs
Group, Are there any group members who are familiar with the earth leakage requirements of UL1419 (Standard for Safety - Professional Audio and Visual equipment) in section 41.1 Our equipment is a detachable power cord connected, class 1 appliance rated at 100 -250 V. Section 41.1.9 of the

RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread Hans Mellberg
Daren, you bring up an interesting point. California's energy woes could possibly be band-aid if the voltage was reduced 10%. (maybe that is too big of a management issue, does anyone know?) Assuming that a large percentage of the users don't have switcher regulators then that would equate to a

Trading Standards UK

2001-05-04 Thread Enci
In the UK, what scope does a Trading Standards Officer have with regard to inspecting compliance with European Directives? (LVD EMC) As I understand it, they can inspect the evidence to support a DoC and samples of equipment have to be made available for them if they wish. Can they inspect

RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread Hans Mellberg
The US 220 came from the days of single phase split winding transformers yielding 110 to Neutral. Not a three phase thing but, the open-delta two phase transformers used in residential distribution, were two split winding transformers wound is a three phase style with the third winding missing.

Re: Radiated emssions equipment to 10 GHz?

2001-05-04 Thread Ken Javor
The old standby is the HP8566, but it uses harmonic mixing above 2.5 GHz, which decreases sensitivity. Then there is the HP8593 which also has decreasing sensitivity above 6 GHz. The 8566 is obsolete, but readily available. Carnel (to my knowledge) still makes the excellent EMI receiver series

RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread mkelson
From the point of view of an electrician or a technician, I can understand, to some extent, how one could consider a phase-to-phase connection as being single phase. From the point of view of a design engineer, however, there would probably be some differences. With a system that references

Product Safety - Japan

2001-05-04 Thread georgea
The new Japan DENAN requirements are not completely clear, and I know of no on-line source in English to clear up certain aspects. For example, in the past, AC/DC adapters have required certification and the application of the Dentori-T mark with cert. number. However, there was no mandatory

RE: EMC-PSTC List Archive Site

2001-05-04 Thread UMBDENSTOCK
New address: http://www.cfont.com/ -- From: Peter G Schreiner III[SMTP:p...@sciatl.com] Reply To: Peter G Schreiner III Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:09 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: EMC-PSTC List Archive Site Being new to the list, I would

RE: DC/DC Convertor with BASIC INSULATION

2001-05-04 Thread Goldstein, David
SynQor Lucent/Tyco di/dt Power One Hope that this helps David B. Goldstein Principal Manufacturing Engineer Cratos Networks 313 Littleton Rd; Suite 20 Chelmsford, MA 01824 978-244-0068 ext. 150 FAX (978) 244-0618 dgoldst...@cratosnetworks.com -Original Message- From: Peter

Mexico Radios

2001-05-04 Thread Wismer, Sam
Group, I need some opinions on shipping radio devices to Mexico. Information is very difficult to get from the SCT directly and our distributors play down the need for type approval, so I am having difficulties in getting a straight answer to the legal way to ship product. My understanding is: -

EMC-PSTC List Archive Site

2001-05-04 Thread Peter G Schreiner III
Being new to the list, I would like to search the archives for answers to questions that might have been addressed many times in the past. I have not been successful in my attempts to link to the archive site that was provided in my introductory message after subscription to the list.

Radiated emssions equipment to 10 GHz?

2001-05-04 Thread David Gelfand
What receivers or spectrum analyzers are used for making radiated emissions measurements to 10 GHz? Best regards, David. David Gelfand Regulatory Approvals Memotec Communications Inc.

DC/DC Convertor with BASIC INSULATION

2001-05-04 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, Does anyone have a list of manufacturers of Approved (UL Recognized/ TUV Approved) 36-72V range dc/dc convertor with the following characteristics and at least BASIC INSULATION between the input and output? The dc/dc converor will be used for a telecom device intended for connection to

Re: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread CDUPRES
Hi Brian. Just to add a little more fuel to the flames! We supplied an Instrument to a well known semiconductor Manufacturer in Oregon which was powered from two 220 volt phases. I marked the rating plate as 220 volt one phase as has been suggested. However the local inspector made us

Re: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread Doug McKean
In my experience, a system that gets its power from a power supply which for input has either a transformer or a switcher with a two port input across which is connected one hot line and one neutral line or two hots out of phase from each other, that system is a 'single phase' system. Even

RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread Nerad, Daren HS-SNS
All right... I had heard this from a former nuclear power plant worker (NOT Homer Simpson, opposite end of intelligence spectrum). Passed it on as a bit of cynical (realist?) humor... (the caffeine in the Mountain Dew made me get an early jump on Friday Funnies) Daren A. Nerad EMC Engineer

Re: EN60945 - Conducted emission

2001-05-04 Thread John Woodgate
20010503173419.30021.qm...@www3.nameplanet.com, am...@westin.org inimitably wrote: John Woodgate wrote: According to which standard? Requirements are not identical in different standards, sometimes for good reasons and sometimes for historical reasons. -- Standard :EN60945 / IEC945. Is

Re: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-04 Thread John Woodgate
b78135310217d511907c0090273f5190d0b...@curly.ds.cubic.com, Price, Ed ed.pr...@cubic.com wrote: The nominal 208 Vrms value exists from any phase-to-phase pair. The voltage from any phase to neutral is 115 Vrms. 208/sqrt(3) = 120, not 115. 110 V was around in the 1920s, AIUI. By WW2, the voltage

Re: Measurement instruments that are installed into a PC

2001-05-04 Thread John Woodgate
cefaf4001934d411b06e00805f9593fd6a9...@corpmail2.genrad.com, Chaplis, Bob chapl...@genrad.com wrote: Signametrics makes modular instruments that can be installed into a PCI slot within a PC. Im familiar with only the DMM module at this time. This module is capable of measuring voltages to 330v,

Re: quiet support equipment

2001-05-04 Thread mike harris
Hi George, When I was starting the same kind of search 2 years ago, I asked Dell's EMC dept. for a suggestion on their quietest desktop pc. The PC was is very quiet, but the video card made some monitors scream at highest rated resolution refresh rate. Other video cards will have vastly