Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Pete, Thanks for your advice! Thru this exercise, some test labs are using the dow as guide for the mandatory date without caring the OJEU. Obviously the similar confusion exists. For example, HS 60065 in LVD calling for requirements of lithium battery 62133. It does not specify which

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Pete Perkins
Scott,I’m not quite that hard-nosed on this issue. I have recommended that manufacturer’s choose the best available path knowing that the EU bureaucrats will move the goal posts again on us. So I would say, use harmonized standards when it is clear that they are

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Charlie, Deeply appreciate your further advice!! Best regards, Scott On 22 June 2018 at 20:26, Charlie Blackham wrote: > Scott > > > > *[CB] comments* below > > > > Regards > > Charlie > > > > *Charlie Blackham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web:

[PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
Gert, Note 55032 has replaced 55022 in EMC HS but not in RED. Suppose 55035 and 55032 are a pair of EMS and EMI for MME. Any particular reason? Regards, Scott On 22 June 2018 at 21:03, Gert Gremmen wrote: > It IS far behind. This step was made just to stop the delay. > > Virtually all

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Gert, Glad to have leant this new process behind and congratulate your contributions to these two groups! However I have worries about the current status that is far behind the demand of HS. With this new step, further delay may be anticipated! Is there any ID to identify the standards have

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Michael Derby
Hello, The big problem with that approach is the change to the ‘state of the art’ (many more radios) and the fact that the technical requirements changed from the R to the RED (additional emphasis on receiver testing). So, quite simply, there are many cases where the old R standard would

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Charlie Blackham
Scott [CB] comments below Regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: www.sulisconsultants.com Registered in England and Wales, number

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Jim Hulbert
My suggestion would be to go back to the harmonized standards list from the RED’s predecessor, the R, and search there for applicable EMC standards. I would use those for compliance in the absence of harmonized standards for the RED, with rationale in the technical file. Does anyone see any

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Charlie, I am not fully catching up your points. Could you please give some insights of the points highlighted below. Thanks! On 22 June 2018 at 00:28, Charlie Blackham wrote: > Scott > > > > Sound and Broadcast receivers fall under the scope of the RED (it was one > of the changes from

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread John Woodgate
Yes, the Commission does not always make the docopocoss the same as the dow.  The situation is known to be unsatisfactory, due to the Commission changing its criteria for listing standards in the OJ. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh,