Re: [PSES] [SPAM?] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

** Gary Stuyvenberg Sr. EMC Engineer Thompson Consulting On Wed, 4/4/18, John Woodgate<j...@woodjohn.uk> <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk> wrote: Subject: Re: [PSES] [SPAM] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.

Re: [PSES] [SPAM?] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

Re: [PSES] [SPAM] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2018, 3:59 PM As is usual with these things, about 20% of the words are justified, the rest are not, or vice versa. For exa

Re: [PSES] [SPAM?] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

org/wiki/International_Commission_on_Non-Ionizing_Radiation_Protection *** Gary Stuyvenberg Sr. EMC Engineer Thompson Consulting On Wed, 4/4/18, John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk> wrote: Subject: Re: [PSES] [SPAM] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Stand

Re: [PSES] [SPAM] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

As is usual with these things, about 20% of the words are justified, the rest are not, or vice versa. For example, in the first citation, the first 7 words are not justified by any peer-reviewed research reports, the rest are largely true. In the second citation, the first 14 words are

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

Re: Exposure Limits Thought I would post this to the group as it has been the subject of debate for many years. I found it Interesting as it gets into the mechanisms at work and symptoms while underscoring the importance of our work. Gary Stuyvenberg Sr. EMC Engineer Thompson Consulting

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

April 2018 16:05 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID Yes, I cited the wrong Directive. Wrong citations are quite common, due to the Commission and the SMBs citing the largely me

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

:44 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID Yes, well, it's typical obscurantist wording. The LVD DOES apply, but without its low-voltage limit. That is what Article 3 1 (a) says, quite explicitly. John Woodgate OOO

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID Yes, I cited the wrong Directive. Wrong citations are quite common, due to the Commission and the SMBs citing the largely meaningless '/nn' numbers instead of the titles of the Directives. . The actu

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID Yes, well, it's typical obscurantist wording. The LVD DOES apply, but without its low-voltage limit. That is what Article 3 1 (a) says, quite explicitly. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

uk> *Sent:* 04 April 2018 16:05 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID Yes, I cited the wrong Directive. Wrong citations are quite common, due to the Commission and the SMBs citing the largely meaningless '

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2f> Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 *From:*John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk> *Sent:* 04 April 2018 16:05 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID Yes, I cited the wrong Dire

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

%2f> Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk> Sent: 04 April 2018 16:05 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID Yes, I cited the wrong Directive. Wrong citations are quite

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

As LVD (2014/35) is not applicable for Radio devices and so RFID, this standard is set up to be harmonized under the RED. Be it as an Electrical Safety Standard under the RED. Look at the provided link. Gert Gremmen On 4-4-2018 15:37, John Woodgate wrote: SECOND RESPONSE I should have

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

te [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] *Sent:* 04 April 2018 14:38 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID SECOND RESPONSE I should have mentioned that exposure standards have nothing to do with RED but are relevant to a differe

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 05:38:41 -0700, Grace Lin wrote: > Is there any harmonized standards applicable to 13.56 MHz RFID devices? > > The following four standards are listed in the latest published list > standards (March 9, 2018). It seems there is no one applicable to a

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

orate office phone: USA: (+1) 703 847 4700 From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: 04 April 2018 14:38 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID SECOND RESPONSE I should ha

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

SECOND RESPONSE I should have mentioned that exposure standards have nothing to do with RED but are relevant to a different Directive: DIRECTIVE 2013/35/EU OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 26 June 2013 on the minimum health and safety requirements regarding the exposure of

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

t;graceli...@gmail.com> Sent: 04 April 2018 13:39 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID Dear Members, Is there any harmonized standards applicable to 13.56 MHz RFID devices? The following four standards are listed in the late

[PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

Dear Members, Is there any harmonized standards applicable to 13.56 MHz RFID devices? The following four standards are listed in the latest published list standards (March 9, 2018). It seems there is no one applicable to a 13.56 MHz RFID device. EN 50360:2017 Product standard to demonstrate