Re: [PSES] LED monitor

2013-08-21 Thread Richard Nute
Hello Bostjan: Ifthe LCD display is certified and the monitor is not, I would ignore the whole monitor as it is supplied by SELV and LPS, which makes it non-critical to safety and certification. Best regards, Richard On 8/21/2013 11:01 AM, Boštjan Glavič wrote: Hello Richard, Thank you f

Re: [PSES] LED monitor

2013-08-21 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Hello Richard, Thank you for your reply. Unit that we certify is composed of power supply, UPS, PC, some low voltage electronics and LCD monitor supplied by external AC/DC adapter. LCD monitor is not approved, but internal panel is UL approved. So if I understand you correctly, it is enough to

Re: [PSES] LED monitor

2013-08-21 Thread Richard Nute
Hello Bostjan: The certification of a component such as a video monitor cannot be used as a stand-alone certification; it can only be used to certify the component as part of another equipment. A certified component should be included in the list of critical components -- even though it is lo

Re: [PSES] LED monitor

2013-08-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
Since LPS used, and if power source approved per UL1310 and CSA No.223, the AHJ's only NEC construction concern is article 725, which may or may not be scoped for intended end-use equipment. In IEC terms, this could be considered Class III equipment, and the NRTL/SCC report would mostly emphasize

Re: [PSES] LED monitor

2013-08-13 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Tue, 13 Aug 2013, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Bo=B9tjan_Glavi=E8?= writes: Why do you find approval of the panel useless? I guess it doesn't get you past the AHJ, if the AHJ decides to be ornery. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why is the stap

Re: [PSES] LED monitor

2013-08-13 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Hello Richard, Yes the unit is supplied by external power supply source with SELV, LPS output. The complete unit will be NRTL certified. My question is whether we need to consider complete monitor (it is for building-in, not consumer monitor) as critical component or I can leave it out of list

Re: [PSES] LED monitor

2013-08-13 Thread Richard Nute
Hello Bostjan: If the LED monitor runs on mains voltage, then it must be certified by an NRTL. If it runs on low voltage, it need not be certified by an NRTL. But, I would get it certified anyway as it is easy, not time consuming, and cheap. And, it avoids any problems. The UL-recognized L

[PSES] LED monitor

2013-08-12 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Dear Experts, We are just approving one product for US/CAN market that comprises LED monitor. Would you consider LED monitor as a critical component and ask for NRTL approval? There is no back-light inverter inside and therefore no hazardous voltages. LED display panel itself is UL approved. I