Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

If I may hijack this thread, how are products handled that are not fully assembled until it reaches the customer site such as some industrial and Laboratory equipment? Can you even get an NRTL certification on such a product before it leaves the manufacturer? After the product is fully assembled

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

il 30, 2013 9:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing How about going to NRTL3? Sincerely, Dieter Paasche -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: April 29, 2013 5:03 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re:

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

How about going to NRTL3? Sincerely, Dieter Paasche -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: April 29, 2013 5:03 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing Hi Carl: I suggest you take it up a notch with NRTL2

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

Christopher No need to repeat 100% dielectric strength testing for Japan . You must provide the importer test records showing test has been performed on 100% production. The importer must retain these records for METI inspection. Peter Sent from my iPhone Peter S. Merguerian pe...@goglobalc

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

Hello Rich, This issue has been decided by the "chief engineer" for all USA medical labs at NRTL2. The interesting part is that the staff safety engineers at NRTL2 appear to agree with me (including Sr engineers there). I'm told that it's the responsibility of the chief engineer to worry about l

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

  Carl,   you not alone dealing with such issues.   Similar rules also apply to the PSE marketed wall-wort power supply in Japan. We are also facing 100% dielectric voltage withstand testing be repeated on all in coming power supplies Our porduct is a WiFi a/b/g/n device. I guess the Denon Law p

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

Hi Carl: I suggest you take it up a notch with NRTL2. Take it up the management chain at NRTL2. NRTL managers tend to be more open to issues of added cost to their client, especially where the value of the requirement is questionable. At the same time, the manager has some duty to support his e

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

In message , dated Mon, 29 Apr 2013, "McInturff, Gary" writes: I understand the argument but the logic runs out of room pretty quickly, in my opinion, since there is also a chance for damage after shipping to the customer, does one then send someone to the end user's location to run the te

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

dgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing In message <00bf01ce450a$f8c6ca10$ea545e30$@gmail.com>, dated Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Carl Newton writes: >  Still, customer?s NRTL2 is

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

There is no requirement in the US for one NRTL to accept the results of mark of another NRTL, though generally many will. Regards, Tom Smith, P.Eng Principal Engineer TJS Technical Services Inc. Tel: +1 403-612-6664 Email: tsm...@tjstechnical.com

Re: [PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

In message <00bf01ce450a$f8c6ca10$ea545e30$@gmail.com>, dated Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Carl Newton writes:   Still, customer?s NRTL2 is demanding that this test be repeated upon 100% of the power supplies at customer?s premises.  I don't know 'custom and practice' in USA, but I would expect that r

[PSES] NRTL requiring duplicate testing

Customer has a medical wall-wort power supply that has the typical NRTL (call them NRTL1) safety mark that you'd expect to see on a power supply marketed within the USA. Customer's entire device is located within the secondary of that wall-wort power supply and includes no connections to other mai