RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-29 Thread Grasso, Charles (Chaz)
Thanks Mike for an excellent post. -Original Message- From: Mike Murphy [mailto:mmur...@alesis.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 10:56 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Brent and group, I can verify that the CASPPER system does

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-29 Thread Mike Murphy
Brent and group, I can verify that the CASPPER system does perform this feat incredibly well in most cases IF you have the right conditions. I've had two demos of their product, one at our company in Santa Monica and another at an OATS. We devised quite a few scenarios to test its capabilities.

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-29 Thread pahlbf
-- Forwarded by Brent F Pahl/FOS/PEC on 03/28/2000 03:59 PM --- Brent F Pahl 03/23/2000 01:43 PM To: Lacey,Scott sla...@foxboro.com cc: Subject: RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS (Document link: Brent F Pahl) I recently attended

Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS - Dual Channel Spectrum Analyzer

2000-03-28 Thread Cortland Richmond
Cancellation Device for OATS - Dual Channel Spectrum Hi Cortland, I agree that if you want to get successful cancellation of ambient by mixing an negative ambient signal to the measured signal you need an exact adjustment of amplitude and phase. And here lies the problem. Is there a spectrum analyzer

Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS - Dual Channel Spectrum Analyzer

2000-03-28 Thread rc
list emc-p...@ieee.org cc:(bcc: Rene Charton/TUV-Twn) Subject: Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Basically, one combines the ambient, a signal whose amplitude is not dependent on distance from an EUT, in the correct phase and amplitude, with the signals received by an antenna

Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-24 Thread brent . dewitt
Having played with phase based cancellation some, the true nature of the problem is quite complex (pun intended). Using simple systems as Cortland has mentioned, allows you to null a single phase path to the ambient.. Since I tried this at an OATS in the mountains, it was a rather dismal

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-23 Thread JPickens
-Original Message- From: Brumbaugh, David [mailto:david.brumba...@pss.boeing.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:19 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS I would like to add that one must be careful when it comes to using such a system. I

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-23 Thread Lacey,Scott
Exactly. Scott Lacey -Original Message- From: Brumbaugh, David [SMTP:david.brumba...@pss.boeing.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:19 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-23 Thread Cortland Richmond
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:38:20 -0800 From: Doug dmck...@gte.net Subject: Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Reply-To: Doug dmck...@gte.net Perhaps it's because I've never understood ... How exactly does one do ambient cancellation at an OATS? UNSNIP

Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-23 Thread Hans Mellberg
One method is to use two antennae. Then only the difference is the emissions of your EUT as the second antenna is farther away from the EUT. I believe that Cassper, after DSP, subtracts one reading from the other but I have seen a site using two spectrum analyzers instead for each antenna. ---

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-23 Thread Brumbaugh, David
: Price, Ed[SMTP:ed.pr...@cubic.com] Reply To: Price, Ed Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 9:01 AM To: 'Doug'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Doug: As I understand the process, there isn't actually cancellation AT the OATS

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-23 Thread Price, Ed
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Perhaps it's because I've never understood ... How exactly does one do ambient cancellation at an OATS? --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc

Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-23 Thread Doug
Perhaps it's because I've never understood ... How exactly does one do ambient cancellation at an OATS? --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to:

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-23 Thread Gorodetsky, Vitaly
this rather promising technique. Regards, VG -Original Message- From: Mike Murphy [SMTP:mmur...@alesis.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 3:44 PM To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Jerry and the group, I've had the demo as well

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-22 Thread Shusterman_Boris
' Subject: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 01:48 PM Hello - A little while ago there was some discussion of a company designing an ambient cancelation device. Question: Does anyone remember the company

RE: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-22 Thread Mike Murphy
Jerry and the group, I've had the demo as well (two actually...one at my office and one at an OATS). It's an exciting product in theory and in some cases it performs amazingly well. In other cases it's very finicky and would require multiple ambient antennae and/or adjustment of those antennae

Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-21 Thread Martin Rowe (TMW)
|\/ -- From: Grasso, Charles (Chaz) gra...@louisville.stortek.com To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 01:48 PM Hello - A little while ago there was some discussion

Re: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-21 Thread Frank Krozel
- From: Grasso, Charles (Chaz) gra...@louisville.stortek.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS Hello - A little while ago there was some discussion of a company designing an ambient cancelation device. Question

Ambient Cancellation Device for OATS

2000-03-21 Thread Grasso, Charles (Chaz)
Hello - A little while ago there was some discussion of a company designing an ambient cancelation device. Question: Does anyone remember the company?? --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion