Re: Copper Thieving

2001-01-22 Thread Ralph Cameron
Doug: A picture says a 1000 words. Well Done. Ralph Cameron - Original Message - From: POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com To: rehel...@mmm.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:40 AM Subject: RE: Copper Thieving I would like to add a little more

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-22 Thread POWELL, DOUG
I would like to add a little more to this discussion. Last August we had a serious problem occur when a board house arbitrarily added thieving dots to one of our PCBs. This significantly reduced the spacing requirement in a safe-unsafe area. As it turned out, we did not catch the problem

Re: Copper Thieving

2001-01-19 Thread Perry Qu
Hi! Michael: Thank you for your suggestion. It seems that copper fill that you and several other guys mentioned does not applied in my board. For external layers, you can implement the copper ring or, as other people suggested, using copper fill but grounded it. In my case, I have a high-layer

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-19 Thread Roman, Dan
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Copper Thieving How does electrically floating copper interact with electromagnetic fields? David --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread Cook, Jack
: Re: Copper Thieving Hi! Dan: I understand that EMC guys don't want to see the floating coppers on the PCB because of ESD and/or emission problem. But on the manufacture side, they claim that if you don't do copper balance on the layer where you have large area without copper, you will sure

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread Dick Grobner
I agree - what is it? I tried looking it up in some of my PC design books at the start of this one and came up blank. Does it go by another name? -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:15 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread Roman, Dan
I make them ground it with appropriately spaced vias. -Original Message- From: Perry Qu [mailto:perry...@alcatel.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:19 PM To: Roman, Dan Cc: 'Stephen Phillips'; rehel...@mmm.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; DORIN OPREA Subject: Re: Copper Thieving

Re: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread Perry Qu
. It has lead to many arguments with the CAD department over the years! -- Dan -Original Message- From: Stephen Phillips [mailto:step...@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:33 AM To: rehel...@mmm.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Copper Thieving Copper

Re: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread David Gelfand
[mailto:step...@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:33 AM To: rehel...@mmm.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Copper Thieving Copper applied to the outer PCB layers, in a pattern, to even out the copper placement so the board is less likely to warp through soldering. Obviously

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread Abbas Hosseinian
to many arguments with the CAD department over the years! -- Dan -Original Message- From: Stephen Phillips [mailto:step...@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:33 AM To: rehel...@mmm.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Copper Thieving Copper applied to the outer PCB

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread Roman, Dan
] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:33 AM To: rehel...@mmm.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Copper Thieving Copper applied to the outer PCB layers, in a pattern, to even out the copper placement so the board is less likely to warp through soldering. Obviously, it would be put

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread James, Chris
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Copper Thieving Copper applied to the outer PCB layers, in a pattern, to even out the copper placement so the board is less likely to warp through soldering. Obviously, it would be put where there is not etch, large open areas, to somewhat offset where you

Re: Copper Thieving

2001-01-18 Thread Stephen Phillips
Copper applied to the outer PCB layers, in a pattern, to even out the copper placement so the board is less likely to warp through soldering. Obviously, it would be put where there is not etch, large open areas, to somewhat offset where you might have planes of copper elsewhere on the