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2003-06-28 Thread Peter L. Tarver
My response to Mr. Horvat's message was indeed blunt, but _was_not_ personal. If my response lacked the decorum some delicate souls crave, then certainly those self-same creatures can take me to task off the list (some already have), rather than making personal comments on the list. I have

Re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-27 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in 6D8B5870.6AD0B19A .0ba45...@aol.com) about 'Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: John, What you highlight is one of the differences between traditional ICT equipment and traditional radio equipment. ICT

RE: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-27 Thread Peter Horvat
those who constructively contributed, a great thanks. PH From: Reginald Henry [mailto:rhe...@vicon-cctv.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:31 AM To: 'Alexandru Guidea'; 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies Alex, My feeling actually. If we are here

Re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-27 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Reginald Henry rhe...@vicon-cctv.com wrote (in 8FACEFD20E5BD311BA5200E018C14B4401A2C30C@VICONMAIL) about 'Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: So, if there should be some looking up of information by the questioner, point him or her in the

RE: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-27 Thread Reginald Henry
by the questioner, point him or her in the direction as to where to find it without the negative comments. Peace, RH From: Alexandru Guidea [mailto:gui...@cae.com] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:09 PM To: Peter Horvat; 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-27 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in 44E75E95.7A170092 0ba45...@aol.com) about 'Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies' on Thu, 26 Jun 2003: [R_Hughes ] Technically incorrect: it is also possible to have a design

re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-27 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in 44E75E95.7A170092 0ba45...@aol.com) about 'Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies' on Thu, 26 Jun 2003: [R_Hughes ] Technically incorrect: it is also possible to have a design

Re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-27 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in 44E75E95.7A170092 .0ba45...@aol.com) about 'Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies' on Thu, 26 Jun 2003: [R_Hughes ] Technically incorrect: it is also possible to have a design where the secondary circuit is floating from earth and

re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-26 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Group, Please see my comments below... Richard Hughes From: j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:24 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies I read in !emc-pstc that Alexandru Guidea

re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-26 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Peter, Most people want the output to meet the requirements for an SELV Circuit. Probably the transformers and opto-couplers (if any, in the feedback loop) within the power supply will meet the requirement for Reinforced Insulation and this implies an ability to withstand 3,000 Vac. However,

Re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-26 Thread douglas_beckw...@mitel.com
Hello Peter PC power supplies are Class I devices. By definition in EN60950 clause 1.2.4.1 the power supply only requires basic insulation between Primary and earth, primary and secondary, and must be provided with a protective earth. The basic insulation + protective earth provides the two

Re: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-26 Thread Ed Eszlari
Peter, Most PC power supplies evaluated according to EN60950 or IEC60950 use Basic insulation from the Primary circuitry to the earthed chassis or earthed parts (Class I). They also use Reinforced insulation from Primary to Secondary (Input to Output). If you happen to locate a Class II power

RE: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies

2003-06-26 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Peter- This appears to be a case of not reading the standard. Please buy a copy and read it. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services San Jose, CA peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com From: Peter Horvat Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:37 AM Hi, Can