RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Gary McInturff
, 2003 4:53 PM To: Gary McInturff Cc: john.al...@era.co.uk; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: product safety audit scenario Hi Gary: Your comment triggers another comment: Leadership. Typically, we tend to let the inspector be the leader for the duration of the inspection. The host

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Gary McInturff
: product safety audit scenario Alice, An inspector cannot hold your shipment! They can however ask you to remove the agency marking from the products prior to shipment. Some examples of major deviations: 1) change of power supply 2) pcb traces that are different than original design 3) change

Re: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Gary: Your comment triggers another comment: Leadership. Typically, we tend to let the inspector be the leader for the duration of the inspection. The host can be the leader. The host can set the agenda (in advance, although the inspector need not be notified). First, is to decide

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Sylvia Toma
: FastWave [mailto:bi...@fastwave.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:12 PM To: Sylvia Toma; Lay Siang Saw; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: product safety audit scenario The Certification laboratories such as UL, CSA, ETL, MET, etc. cannot hold a shipment. However, they can require

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Gary McInturff
Agree, with it all, except I signed the VN - right after it was cleared up with the UL engineer. The inspector was correct that it didn't match the descriptive file, it was also the case that it didn't matter from a hazard perspective, and to avoid the problem in the future we did need

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Sylvia Toma
Hello Alice, One scenario that an auditor can hold shipment is the system under audit employs a different power supply (different manufacturer name and/or model number) than the one stated in the Procedure or Critical Component list of the Test Report. Power supply is a critical component

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread John Allen
:16 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: product safety audit scenario In the real world, however, such jugements are made by the safety agency factory inspectors. Unfortunately, our factories have received several variance notices in the past, but not a single one has resulted

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: product safety audit scenario When the product differs from your product description - (most) auditors are expressly forbidden to make engineering judgments - therefore is it says Painted Steel in the narrative description and its actually Anodized Aluminum then he will have

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Gregg Kervill
When the product differs from your product description - (most) auditors are expressly forbidden to make engineering judgments - therefore is it says Painted Steel in the narrative description and its actually Anodized Aluminum then he will have no option but to stop shipment. Best regards

Re: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Alice: Scenario : Component A with rating mentioned in the UL's product report as 90-135/180-265 Vac, however in the phyical unit is written as 115/230 V . Q1 : Is this a non conformity ? Should a VN be raised ? Yes, this is a non-conformity. In this case, the report should be

Re: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread soundsu...@aol.com
Scenario : Component A with rating mentioned in the UL's product report as 90-135/180-265 Vac, however in the phyical unit is written as 115/230 V . Q1 : Is this a non conformity ? Should a VN be raised ? Theoretically, it's a non-conformity, however if the component is being used within its

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread bryan.c...@control-concepts.com
Alice, I have found that inspectors have allowed a manufacturer to claim more stringent or limited ratings than what is in the UL report. In some products that are rated at 120v from line-to-neutral, but are truly 3-phase products, it has been customary that you can denote the operating voltage