RE: Compliance Documentation
The test reports that I refer to don't have any detailed design information in them so an NDA is not an issue. Test data we have always given to any customer who asks for it. Usually the only customers to ask for a test report (data) want it because they are going to integate our product into one of their larger systems and they need to know what to expect when they go to test the system. Steve Grobe - Transition Networks -Original Message- From: Jim Eichner [mailto:jim.eich...@xantrex.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:12 PM To: 'EMC-PSTC - forum' Subject: RE: Compliance Documentation Re: Anyone in our company has the ability to provide test reports to anyone who asks for them. Are you or is anyone else insisting on Non-disclosure agreements before handing over compliance reports? I don't mean Certificates or Declarations, which contain no test data or detailed product design info, but rather the full engineering reports? If so, do you attempt to control this? With paper copies, it's easy. If I don't think we have an NDA in place, I won't give the sales (usually) person the stuff to copy. With .pdf's on an intranet or shared drive, it's not so simple! Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Steve Grobe [mailto:ste...@transition.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:51 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject: RE: Compliance Documentation The test house we work with doesn't even send us reports on paper anymore. A couple weeks after testing a CD with my name on it shows up, on it are the test reports in pdf format. I copy these to our server, add hyperlinks to our intranet. Anyone in our company has the ability to provide test reports to anyone who asks for them. We haven't added them to our webpage yet but that may happen sometime this year. In my opinion digital is the only way to go. Steve Grobe - Transition Networks -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:58 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject: Compliance Documentation Hi all, I do have a question, but the setup is sort of fun, so here goes: Well, I'm at that point. A few years ago, when the EMC Directive was first effective, we had a couple of products that we put through testing. We started keeping Compliance Folders which consisted of a cover report generated with MS Word combined with our in-house test reports and third party test reports held together with a big rubber band. This was fun for a couple of products. It was also fun when our company could remember what we called ourselves and what our product names/models were. Well, business is good...too good. The corporate captains have been buying other companies, OEMing products from other people, OEMing products to other people, changing the corporate name, changing the corporate logo, changing product model numbers ... (buying 25,000 coffee stirrers with our logo on them, we used about 20 before they changed the logo. Anybody what a now obsolete GN Nettest coffee stirrer?) Now I have about 20 large folders with anywhere from 100 to 600 pages each. Every time we go through these excercises, I spend hours sniffing toner at the copier (may explain some of my personality) putting different headers and revision numbers on these documents. I then go through 1000's of sheets of paper to run off copies for our representatives and then 100's of dollars in shipping costs to get these 10 pound paper packages to the four corners of the Earth. This is on top of the revisions that we normally incorporate for product re-tests, re-designs ... My question is, is there a better way? I have considered buying Adobe Acrobat and then converting all of my Word Documents to Adobe documents. Then I could scan in the attachments. All of this digital information, I could then store on a CD ROM drive with a main directory for my cover report and sub-directories for all of the various 3rd party reports, CDRH filings ... We could then offer our Compliance information via pdf files on the web. Is anyone doing this? Do you have any recommendations for what software to use? What scanners work best? What scanner resolution will duplicate test reports without losing precious information? Better yet. Does anybody know of a service where you can send 1000's of pages of info to them for them to scan and convert to pdf files. This would prove valuable during the initial conversion. Has anybody tried this and been sorry they did? I'm ready to go digital. My goal is to incorporate word processed reports, third party test lab paper copies, third party test lab pictures, hand written data ... into a coherent package for storage and revision. I assume that many of you fight this same battle. Any hints or pitfall warnings would be greatly appreciated. Chris Maxwell Design Engineer NetTest 6 Rhoads Drive, Building 4 Utica,NY 13502 email: chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com phone:
RE: Compliance Documentation
Re: Anyone in our company has the ability to provide test reports to anyone who asks for them. Are you or is anyone else insisting on Non-disclosure agreements before handing over compliance reports? I don't mean Certificates or Declarations, which contain no test data or detailed product design info, but rather the full engineering reports? If so, do you attempt to control this? With paper copies, it's easy. If I don't think we have an NDA in place, I won't give the sales (usually) person the stuff to copy. With .pdf's on an intranet or shared drive, it's not so simple! Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Steve Grobe [mailto:ste...@transition.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:51 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject: RE: Compliance Documentation The test house we work with doesn't even send us reports on paper anymore. A couple weeks after testing a CD with my name on it shows up, on it are the test reports in pdf format. I copy these to our server, add hyperlinks to our intranet. Anyone in our company has the ability to provide test reports to anyone who asks for them. We haven't added them to our webpage yet but that may happen sometime this year. In my opinion digital is the only way to go. Steve Grobe - Transition Networks -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:58 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject: Compliance Documentation Hi all, I do have a question, but the setup is sort of fun, so here goes: Well, I'm at that point. A few years ago, when the EMC Directive was first effective, we had a couple of products that we put through testing. We started keeping Compliance Folders which consisted of a cover report generated with MS Word combined with our in-house test reports and third party test reports held together with a big rubber band. This was fun for a couple of products. It was also fun when our company could remember what we called ourselves and what our product names/models were. Well, business is good...too good. The corporate captains have been buying other companies, OEMing products from other people, OEMing products to other people, changing the corporate name, changing the corporate logo, changing product model numbers ... (buying 25,000 coffee stirrers with our logo on them, we used about 20 before they changed the logo. Anybody what a now obsolete GN Nettest coffee stirrer?) Now I have about 20 large folders with anywhere from 100 to 600 pages each. Every time we go through these excercises, I spend hours sniffing toner at the copier (may explain some of my personality) putting different headers and revision numbers on these documents. I then go through 1000's of sheets of paper to run off copies for our representatives and then 100's of dollars in shipping costs to get these 10 pound paper packages to the four corners of the Earth. This is on top of the revisions that we normally incorporate for product re-tests, re-designs ... My question is, is there a better way? I have considered buying Adobe Acrobat and then converting all of my Word Documents to Adobe documents. Then I could scan in the attachments. All of this digital information, I could then store on a CD ROM drive with a main directory for my cover report and sub-directories for all of the various 3rd party reports, CDRH filings ... We could then offer our Compliance information via pdf files on the web. Is anyone doing this? Do you have any recommendations for what software to use? What scanners work best? What scanner resolution will duplicate test reports without losing precious information? Better yet. Does anybody know of a service where you can send 1000's of pages of info to them for them to scan and convert to pdf files. This would prove valuable during the initial conversion. Has anybody tried this and been sorry they did? I'm ready to go digital. My goal is to incorporate word processed reports, third party test lab paper copies, third party test lab pictures, hand written data ... into a coherent package for storage and revision. I assume that many of you fight this same battle. Any hints or pitfall warnings would be greatly appreciated. Chris Maxwell Design Engineer NetTest 6 Rhoads Drive, Building 4 Utica,NY 13502 email: chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com phone: 315-266-5128 fax: 315-797-8024 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE
RE: Compliance Documentation
Hi Chris, Nice lead in... :-P snip I have considered buying Adobe Acrobat and then converting all of my Word Documents to Adobe documents. Then I could scan in the attachments. All of this digital information... snip Great idea, I currently use Adobe Acrobat for what you are describing, it is a great tool and will let you make anything you print into a pdf by simply printing to the adobe printer driver, for MS Office docs there is a special driver that lets you import special formats (i.e. styles and TOC's in word) and use them as bookmarks in your pdf. You can then go into acrobat and edit your bookmark tree to whatever extent you want to carry it. This can make for some pretty impressive looking docs. As far as scanning in documents goes... that may be a little tedious and I have never had much luck with keeping scanned docs looking very clean that's why I would never personally go the scanning route. If you can get a good scan then it might be alright but even then you may want to hire someone to scan it all because it would probably take an unusually long time... Do you have the option of going back to the test houses that evaluated your products and asking if they have soft copy available? snip Better yet. Does anybody know of a service where you can send 1000's of pages of info to them for them to scan and convert to pdf files. This would prove valuable during the initial conversion. snip You might want to try your local printshop, I haven't checked but there must be some entreprenuer out there that has thought of this. I can't imagine it would be cheap though... I think you're on the right track, since I started organizing my reports in soft form it has been much easier to refer back to it when needed as well as get information to those who request it. I still keep one hard copy of everything. One thing to watch out for is security, we all know how easy it is to track electronic copies right? :-P If you make versions that contain proprietary information for internal use you will need some way of ensureing those copies are never distributed by those who should know better but do not. Also be careful with the security options in Acrobat, you will want full control over the master copy but may want to limit editing/printing rights on the distibuted versions.. Just a few things to think about... Cheers, Jeff Bailey Compliance Engineering SST - A Division of Woodhead Canada Phone: (519) 725 5136 ext. 363 Fax: (519) 725 1515 mailto:jbai...@mysst.com Web: www.sstech.on.ca All comments contained in the message are my own and do not necessarily express the views of SST/Woodhead Canada. -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:58 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject: Compliance Documentation Hi all, I do have a question, but the setup is sort of fun, so here goes: Well, I'm at that point. A few years ago, when the EMC Directive was first effective, we had a couple of products that we put through testing. We started keeping Compliance Folders which consisted of a cover report generated with MS Word combined with our in-house test reports and third party test reports held together with a big rubber band. This was fun for a couple of products. It was also fun when our company could remember what we called ourselves and what our product names/models were. Well, business is good...too good. The corporate captains have been buying other companies, OEMing products from other people, OEMing products to other people, changing the corporate name, changing the corporate logo, changing product model numbers ... (buying 25,000 coffee stirrers with our logo on them, we used about 20 before they changed the logo. Anybody what a now obsolete GN Nettest coffee stirrer?) Now I have about 20 large folders with anywhere from 100 to 600 pages each. Every time we go through these excercises, I spend hours sniffing toner at the copier (may explain some of my personality) putting different headers and revision numbers on these documents. I then go through 1000's of sheets of paper to run off copies for our representatives and then 100's of dollars in shipping costs to get these 10 pound paper packages to the four corners of the Earth. This is on top of the revisions that we normally incorporate for product re-tests, re-designs ... My question is, is there a better way? I have considered buying Adobe Acrobat and then converting all of my Word Documents to Adobe documents. Then I could scan in the attachments. All of this digital information, I could then store on a CD ROM drive with a main directory for my cover report and sub-directories for all of the various 3rd party reports, CDRH filings ... We could then offer our Compliance information via pdf files on the web. Is anyone doing this? Do you have any recommendations for what software to use? What scanners work best? What
RE: Compliance Documentation
The test house we work with doesn't even send us reports on paper anymore. A couple weeks after testing a CD with my name on it shows up, on it are the test reports in pdf format. I copy these to our server, add hyperlinks to our intranet. Anyone in our company has the ability to provide test reports to anyone who asks for them. We haven't added them to our webpage yet but that may happen sometime this year. In my opinion digital is the only way to go. Steve Grobe - Transition Networks -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:58 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject: Compliance Documentation Hi all, I do have a question, but the setup is sort of fun, so here goes: Well, I'm at that point. A few years ago, when the EMC Directive was first effective, we had a couple of products that we put through testing. We started keeping Compliance Folders which consisted of a cover report generated with MS Word combined with our in-house test reports and third party test reports held together with a big rubber band. This was fun for a couple of products. It was also fun when our company could remember what we called ourselves and what our product names/models were. Well, business is good...too good. The corporate captains have been buying other companies, OEMing products from other people, OEMing products to other people, changing the corporate name, changing the corporate logo, changing product model numbers ... (buying 25,000 coffee stirrers with our logo on them, we used about 20 before they changed the logo. Anybody what a now obsolete GN Nettest coffee stirrer?) Now I have about 20 large folders with anywhere from 100 to 600 pages each. Every time we go through these excercises, I spend hours sniffing toner at the copier (may explain some of my personality) putting different headers and revision numbers on these documents. I then go through 1000's of sheets of paper to run off copies for our representatives and then 100's of dollars in shipping costs to get these 10 pound paper packages to the four corners of the Earth. This is on top of the revisions that we normally incorporate for product re-tests, re-designs ... My question is, is there a better way? I have considered buying Adobe Acrobat and then converting all of my Word Documents to Adobe documents. Then I could scan in the attachments. All of this digital information, I could then store on a CD ROM drive with a main directory for my cover report and sub-directories for all of the various 3rd party reports, CDRH filings ... We could then offer our Compliance information via pdf files on the web. Is anyone doing this? Do you have any recommendations for what software to use? What scanners work best? What scanner resolution will duplicate test reports without losing precious information? Better yet. Does anybody know of a service where you can send 1000's of pages of info to them for them to scan and convert to pdf files. This would prove valuable during the initial conversion. Has anybody tried this and been sorry they did? I'm ready to go digital. My goal is to incorporate word processed reports, third party test lab paper copies, third party test lab pictures, hand written data ... into a coherent package for storage and revision. I assume that many of you fight this same battle. Any hints or pitfall warnings would be greatly appreciated. Chris Maxwell Design Engineer NetTest 6 Rhoads Drive, Building 4 Utica,NY 13502 email: chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com phone: 315-266-5128 fax: 315-797-8024 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Safety requirements for mounting rails for lamps
Dear all, Who knows what product European safety requirements/ standards are valid for mounting-rails into which lamps at low voltage are mounted? The rail is powered by 12 or 24 volt ac, the supply current can be approx. 16A. Thanks in advance, Kris Carpentier --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
61326-1
Good people of the group: Are requirements in IEC61326-1 (EMC for lab instruments) similiar to/same/much different than CISPR11/16 and/or the good stuff in 61000-3-x/-4-x ?? If so, is the level of difference enough such that I will have have to buy (yet) another standard? thanx much, Brian O'Connell Taiyo Yuden (USA), Inc. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Compliance Documentation
Hi all, I do have a question, but the setup is sort of fun, so here goes: Well, I'm at that point. A few years ago, when the EMC Directive was first effective, we had a couple of products that we put through testing. We started keeping Compliance Folders which consisted of a cover report generated with MS Word combined with our in-house test reports and third party test reports held together with a big rubber band. This was fun for a couple of products. It was also fun when our company could remember what we called ourselves and what our product names/models were. Well, business is good...too good. The corporate captains have been buying other companies, OEMing products from other people, OEMing products to other people, changing the corporate name, changing the corporate logo, changing product model numbers ... (buying 25,000 coffee stirrers with our logo on them, we used about 20 before they changed the logo. Anybody what a now obsolete GN Nettest coffee stirrer?) Now I have about 20 large folders with anywhere from 100 to 600 pages each. Every time we go through these excercises, I spend hours sniffing toner at the copier (may explain some of my personality) putting different headers and revision numbers on these documents. I then go through 1000's of sheets of paper to run off copies for our representatives and then 100's of dollars in shipping costs to get these 10 pound paper packages to the four corners of the Earth. This is on top of the revisions that we normally incorporate for product re-tests, re-designs ... My question is, is there a better way? I have considered buying Adobe Acrobat and then converting all of my Word Documents to Adobe documents. Then I could scan in the attachments. All of this digital information, I could then store on a CD ROM drive with a main directory for my cover report and sub-directories for all of the various 3rd party reports, CDRH filings ... We could then offer our Compliance information via pdf files on the web. Is anyone doing this? Do you have any recommendations for what software to use? What scanners work best? What scanner resolution will duplicate test reports without losing precious information? Better yet. Does anybody know of a service where you can send 1000's of pages of info to them for them to scan and convert to pdf files. This would prove valuable during the initial conversion. Has anybody tried this and been sorry they did? I'm ready to go digital. My goal is to incorporate word processed reports, third party test lab paper copies, third party test lab pictures, hand written data ... into a coherent package for storage and revision. I assume that many of you fight this same battle. Any hints or pitfall warnings would be greatly appreciated. Chris Maxwell Design Engineer NetTest 6 Rhoads Drive, Building 4 Utica,NY 13502 email: chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com phone: 315-266-5128 fax: 315-797-8024 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Interpretation of EN 61000-6-2/EN 61000-4-6 Requirements
Shaike, I would interpret Note 3 of Table 3 of EN 61000-6-2 to have three separate parts. The first part pertains to battery powered devices (not applicable for your product). The second part applies to devices such as yours that has an a.c - d.c power adaptor. And the third part applies to d.c. powered devices that have permanent connectors and a d.c. power source within 3 meters (doesn't sound like your product applies here either). The test is not applicable if your product falls under parts one or three. However, based on what you have told us, the test is applicable to your product since it has an a.c. - d.c. power adaptor and, I assume, a non-permanent, consumer removable, d.c power plug. Part two tells you to apply the stimulus to the a.c. side of the adaptor. If I were writing this document, I would make three separate bullets under Note 3 and I would re-arrange the bullets so that the first two discuss what products are excluded from the test and the third bullet would be the one about the a.c. - d.c. adaptor. I may be way out on a limb here but this is the way I'd interpret the standard. Hope you hear more from the remainder of the group. Its always good to receive multiple views and reassuring when several tend to tell you the same thing. Dan Kinney Horner APG -Original Message- From: S Raz [SMTP:ieee-...@itl.co.il] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:00 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Cc: jim_bac...@monarch.com Subject: Interpretation of EN 61000-6-2/EN 61000-4-6 Requirements Hello Group, Your response to my following question will be greatly appreciated. 1. A product has a 2.5 m long cable including signal leads and DC power leads. The DC power leads are connected to the DC output of AC 230 VAC AC/DC adaptor. 2. Question: Are the DC leads exempt from EN 61000-6-2/EN61000-4-6 test (cable shorter than 3 m)? Or should they be tested as table 3 of EN 61000-6-2 requires for input and output DC power ports? Thanks Shaike Raz --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: UL 1063
Hi Robert, One source might be www.ul.com but I doubt that it's free. Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com -Original Message- From: Distefano, Robert [mailto:distefa...@pan0.panametrics.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:00 AM To: EMC group Subject: UL 1063 All, I apologize up front if I am posting to the wrong forum. Can anyone tell me where I down load a copy of UL 1063. Thanks in advance, Bob Di Stefano Systems Manufacturing Engineering Panametrics Inc., ASD 221 Cresent Street Waltham, MA 02453 781-899-2719 ext 615 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: UL 1063
Hello Bob, UL Standards are copyrighted; UL's purveyor of standards is comm2000. They maintain a website at: www.comm-2000.com where you can order and download standards (among other resources). Regards, Art Michael * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * International Product Safety Bookshop * * http://www.safetylink.com/bookshop.html * * * * Just released! Check out: * * Chinese Product Safety Compliance * * * * Another service of the Safety Link* * www.safetylink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Distefano, Robert wrote: All, I apologize up front if I am posting to the wrong forum. Can anyone tell me where I down load a copy of UL 1063. Thanks in advance, Bob Di Stefano Systems Manufacturing Engineering Panametrics Inc., ASD 221 Cresent Street Waltham, MA 02453 781-899-2719 ext 615 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
UL 1063
All, I apologize up front if I am posting to the wrong forum. Can anyone tell me where I down load a copy of UL 1063. Thanks in advance, Bob Di Stefano Systems Manufacturing Engineering Panametrics Inc., ASD 221 Cresent Street Waltham, MA 02453 781-899-2719 ext 615 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
