Re: [PSES] Semi-Anechoic Chamber Question - Correction Factor

2011-12-22 Thread Cortland Richmond
This has me bemused; when I was new in the trade, I worked for Wang Labs in Tewksbury, Massachusetts. In fact, I got into the trade there (during the interview i asked to be allowed to play with the receiver -- fun!)... Our chamber was not tall enough to raise antennas to 4 meters; the buildi

Re: [PSES] Semi-Anechoic Chamber Question - Correction Factor

2011-12-22 Thread Sundstrom, Michael
Bill, I'd guess 6dB as in voltage, with dBuV being used. Michael Sundstrom OHD / TREQ Dallas Electronic Lab Analyst, EMC Lead 2170 French Settlement Rd, Suite B Dallas, Texas 75212 (214) 579 6312 (940) 390 3644c KB5UKT Albert Einstein once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thi

Re: [PSES] Semi-Anechoic Chamber Question - Correction Factor

2011-12-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message <1324530145.50231.yahoomail...@web39603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, dated Wed, 21 Dec 2011, Bill Owsley writes: Thus, the received voltage received via a direct path added with a reflected path, assuming no distance or reflection loss, would be 6 dB higher than the direct path alone.  Thi

Re: [PSES] Semi-Anechoic Chamber Question - Correction Factor

2011-12-22 Thread Ken Javor
Voltage or power, a dB is a dB. Constructive interference between the direct and reflected ray (given a perfectly conductive ground plane) can increase the field intensity by a factor of two if the phase difference between the two is a half-wavelength. That is 6 dB, whether you speak of the field

Re: [PSES] Semi-Anechoic Chamber Question - Correction Factor

2011-12-22 Thread Bob Richards
There is a theoritical NSA program on the ETS website that will calculate the NSA for any given distance and scan height. I used it to generate numbers for a compliant 3m site (1 to 4m recieve scan height) and then ran the numbers with the transmit and recieve antenna heights at something like 3

Re: [PSES] harmonics & flicker

2011-12-22 Thread Pat Lawler
I heard that the omission of EN 61000-3-2 in earlier editions of the general medical EMC standard (EN 60601-1-2) led people to think EN 61000-3-2 did not apply to medical equipment, even equipment for home or office use. The line harmonics standard was added in later editions of the medical stand

Re: [PSES] harmonics & flicker

2011-12-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message <6ao6f7p76evlg7fn7qsgr5bkdtp3ddv...@4ax.com>, dated Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Pat Lawler writes: I heard that the omission of EN 61000-3-2 in earlier editions of the general medical EMC standard (EN 60601-1-2) led people to think EN 61000-3-2 did not apply to medical equipment, even equipm

Re: [PSES] Semi-Anechoic Chamber Question - Correction Factor

2011-12-22 Thread Cortland Richmond
On 12/22/2011 9:27 AM, John Woodgate wrote: If the direct and reflected rays are equal amplitude and in phase, then it's +6 dB; if they are at 180 degrees, it's minus infinity dB. In between you can get any value, depending on relative phase and transmission loss. Equal amplitude only occurs

Re: [PSES] Semi-Anechoic Chamber Question - Correction Factor

2011-12-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message <4ef37136.5070...@earthlink.net>, dated Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Cortland Richmond writes: On 12/22/2011 9:27 AM, John Woodgate wrote: If the direct and reflected rays are equal amplitude and in phase, then it's +6 dB; if they are at 180 degrees, it's minus infinity dB. In between you ca

[PSES] Orgalime: UL an "effective barrier to trade"

2011-12-22 Thread Richard Nute
Orgalime position paper: "EU manufacturers suffer from malfunctioning of the US certification market: potential abuse of dominant position" http://www.orgalime.org/Pdf/PP_possible_abuse_of_dominant_position_in_US_cer tification_market_oct11.pdf "This practice of denying recognition of compone

Re: [PSES] Orgalime: UL an "effective barrier to trade"

2011-12-22 Thread Brian Oconnell
As usual, Mr Nute finds the good stuff. The root problem may be in the historical process - back when FM and UL were explicitly stated in OSHA code. This is no longer the case, but continues when the phrase "UL approval" is used to indicate 'NRTL' approval. My employer has problems with this, but