Charles/Joe
Yes I was referring to homeplug. Thanks your advice I will follow EN 60950.
Regards
Andy
From: Grasso, Charles [mailto:charles.gra...@echostar.com]
Sent: 23 June 2014 20:19
To: McCallum, Andy; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] EN-61000-6-4
Andy - Are you referring to
Brian,
It is puzzling why the CSDS Proposal for 6.5.2.4 would reference the Voltage
Test (Hipot). I wonder if this was in error.
In UL61010-1 3rd Ed. annex F Routine Tests, F.3.1, I believe this is
referring to the HiPot test that you would perform on 100% of your production.
It states, The
In the field, lots of people such as customers, market surveillances,
customs, etc. are asking for a DoC on particular product and/or its variants
in Europe. What is the exact meaning of the DoC? Is it the one to support
the compliance of CE mark? Or the compliance of all legal requirements
No. Nicht. Aon. It does NOT matter that current flows through the 'filters' and
other stuff during AC hi-pot and 'trips' the instrument. This is a good thing -
set limit levels on your test equipment to verify cap values and leakage paths.
There is no inherent current limit for this test in the
Brian, et al,
Lots of good discussion but let's focus on the basics.
Nute has pointed out that during hi-pot testing the current that
flows will be related to the increase in voltage. So, if the hi-pot voltage
is 10x the line voltage then the test current will be 10x the line
For IEC60065 Appendix N2.1 (informative) specifies a maximum production line
dielectric trip current limit of 100mA. This is considered a dielectric
failure and looked at as the same as breakdown or flashover.
-Original Message-
From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]
There is a lot of guidance on the internet related to CE Marking and DoC's
https://www.gov.uk/ce-marking
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/cemarking/
http://www.ce-marking.org/what-is-ce-marking.html
-Original Message-
From: Scott Xe
Let us see - that is at least 500VA at test levels for most of my stuff - so
you will probably have other problems long before that... And was said, the
current limit is not normative.
As a feared and despised employee (Darth Vader theme music here) of a company
division that makes power
Would there be a conflict of interest if Compliance reported to Operations?
Compliance reports to Quality, and Quality reports to Operations.
-Original Message-
From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 4:45 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
On 6/24/2014 6:55 AM, Kunde, Brian wrote:
What does stressed only by d.c. mean? How are Mains Circuits stressed by
d.c.?
Hi Other Brian:
One must distinguish between ac mains and dc mains.
dc mains are not subject to the same overvoltages as
are ac mains. Therefore, dc mains are not as
On 6/24/2014 10:29 AM, Tyra, John wrote:
For IEC60065 Appendix N2.1 (informative) specifies a maximum production line
dielectric trip current limit of 100mA. This is considered a dielectric
failure and looked at as the same as breakdown or flashover.
Hi John:
IEC 60065 is dumb. A
test
-Original Message-
From: Brian Oconnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:07 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: UL61010-1 CSDS Proposal for 6.5.2.4
Let us see - that is at least 500VA at test levels for most of my stuff - so
you will probably have other problems long
I don't disagree Rich as I was only pointing out that IEC60065 does have some
guidance regarding tester trip points logical or not.
-Original Message-
From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:49 PM
To: Tyra, John; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re:
Aahh, so the statement,
Conformity is checked by inspection, and by the a.c. test of 6.8.3.1 with a
duration of at least 1 min, or for
MAINS CIRCUITS stressed only by d.c., the 1 min d.c. test of 6.8.3.2, using the
applicable voltage from Table 5.
is saying that for AC Mains you use AC voltage
John has provided the essential stuff.
Some of my employer's customers seem to get the Declaration of Conformity
confused with a (contractual) 'Certificate of Conformity'. Methinks the
important stuff is framed by the how the document meets the directives'
requirements for the basis of the
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