Re: MITI/Dentori-T

2000-06-20 Thread Ralph Cameron
George: I read some Japanese but do not know the meaning of dentori unless it is a compound of two other nouns. I would say, dentori because there is no "Y" in the Japanese syllabry. Japanese are quite flexible in their phonetic liberties particularly when appealing to an English speaker. Ralp

RE: NAVSEA OP3565

2000-06-20 Thread jestuckey
Thank you very much for you Security Awareness. Given my background it is refreshing to see and should be punctuated with exclamation points, especially in this day and time. Best Regards, John E. Stuckey -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Tue

Re: Dentori mark

2000-06-20 Thread Egon H. Varju
George, The only "correct" spelling is in Japanese Kanji characters, of course, which are not phonetic. The Romanji, or phonetic, representation is normally "Dentori." Doesn't matter if you use upper or lower case, since there is no case in Japanese anyway. If you're interested in trivia

RE: General Product Safety and Liability Directives

2000-06-20 Thread WOODS
Articles 2 and 3 of the General Product Directive specifically mention "consumers". Check also, the fourth "whereas" which mentions consumers. Likewise, many of the "whereas" clauses of the Liability Directive mention consumers. Article 9(b)(I) indicates that the products are for "private use or c

RE: R&TTE & Spain, France

2000-06-20 Thread WOODS
Jon, for frequency information, check the CEPT Decisions and Recommendations at http://www.ero.dk/ . The alert symbol forms part of the CE marking, so it must appear where ever the CE marking must appear: the packaging, the product and the Declaration. The member states or geo

Re: NAVSEA OP3565

2000-06-20 Thread Ken Javor
The cover page of OP 3565 says: DISTRIBUTION STATEMENT: Distribution authorized to US government agencies only; administrative/operational use; 15 July 1989. Other requests for this document must be referred to the Naval Sea Systems Command (SEA-09B2). WARNING This document contains technical

R&TTE & Spain, France

2000-06-20 Thread Jon Bond
Hi Groups, We have performed ETS 300 328, ETS 300 826 (61000-4-3, 61000-4-2), CE, and FCC testing on our 11MBPS (2.4GHz) wireless card. We intend to ship this card throughout the EU after forwarding the Annex IV (TCF) info to a Notified Body and receiving their "opinion" on the test data. Que

Re: SLIM

2000-06-20 Thread Brian Jones
Gail, and everyone This seems most improbable to me, but just to be sure, I contacted the Department of Trade & Industry here in the UK. The person I contacted has not heard anything to this effect either, but is checking where such a story might have originated. I will post further information

Video Testing

2000-06-20 Thread John Juhasz
Hi all . . . I know that this is a little 'off topic' of what normally gets posted here but I can't find an answer anywhere else (even on the internet). . . does ANYONE know of an independent laboratory that does testing of Video signals (against EIA specs)?? I can't find one!! Unreal . . .

Re: SLIM

2000-06-20 Thread Benoit Nadeau
Bonjour de Montreal, I'm also very skeptical about this since the tendency is Europe is to de-regulate. If you look at the new RTTE Directive you will see that Notify Bodies will only produce "advices" to the manufacturer, no type approval anymore. I wonder how the EMC Directive could manage to m

RE: Philosophy for old designs with new requirements.

2000-06-20 Thread Gert Gremmen
Dear friends, As far as the validity of European Standards ( harmonized standards) concerns, not the DOW or other dates are valid, but -with the exclusion of all other dates- the ones on the most recent list of harmonized standard as published in the European Official Journal (OJ/C) , lastly publ

Re: MITI/Dentori-T

2000-06-20 Thread Rich Nute
Hi George: > I am confused. Which is the correct spelling: > > Dentori or Dentory The word is a Japanese word. The translation of a Japanese word is a phonetic translation. The spelling of the word is inconsequential as long as the phonetic is maintained. Spelling is an english la

NEC

2000-06-20 Thread WOODS
What wiring method does the US National Electrical Code require/allow for a rf cable from a transmitter to an antenna? Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your

Dentori mark

2000-06-20 Thread richard . payne
George: I have no sure and certain reference for this, but my understanding is as follows: Spelling - Dentori Dentori is the name of the law which requires certain products to be certified for sale in Japan and to bear the "Dentori mark", commonly and unofficially referred to as the "T-mark". T

Re: General Product Safety and Liability Directives

2000-06-20 Thread Ron Pickard
Hi Richard, I disagree with you regarding your claim about these two directives only being applicable to consumer products. The General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) is focused towards product where no other directives apply. The GPSD states"

Re: SLIM

2000-06-20 Thread eric . lifsey
List Chums, I just love getting inflammatory tidbits from the List, and, since nobody else has commented yet... Last October we completed our own full compliance lab for EN 61326 as well, an investment at that time of about 250k USD (not counting equipment we already had, about 100k worth). The

RE: MITI/Dentori-T

2000-06-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Not so dumb. It's probably a translation issue, since Kenji and the English alphabet are nothing alike. I've mostly seen it spelled in all-caps as DENTORI. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Homologation Engineering Nortel Networks ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: geor...

Re: NAVSEA OP3565

2000-06-20 Thread Antonio Sarolic
Hi group I am glad someone mentioned the OP 3565 document. I tried to locate it several times, but never successfully. I did some research on HERO and HERF, but couldn't compare the results to the document. I would appreciate a copy as well as advice how to get it. Thanks. Regards to all. Antoni

over voltage tester

2000-06-20 Thread John Chan
Dear Sir/Madam; I am looking for a over voltage tester to test for UL 1950 third edition. Can anyone tell me where I can buy one? Thanks. Best Regards; John Chan Bay Area Compliance Laboratory Corp. (Sunnyvale, CA) Tel: (408) 732 9162 Fax: (408) 732 9164 e-mail address: jo...@baclcorp.com

RE: Philosophy for old designs with new requirements.

2000-06-20 Thread georgea
Don asked: >I would appreciate some feedback on the following: > >Let's say I have several existing designs which meet the requirements for CE >Marking today (EMC & Safety). What is the requirement for these existing >designs when a new standard comes out, let's say six months from now? > >I thi

RE: Philosophy for old designs with new requirements.

2000-06-20 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Don, The new standards have associated with them a date known as the Date of Withdrawal (DoW). That is the date on which the presumption of conformity to the essential requirements of the applicable directive (in this case, the EMC Directive) is withdrawn for the old standards. Any product impo

MITI/Dentori-T

2000-06-20 Thread georgea
Dumb question: I've used the term "Dentori-T" mark when referring to the Japan mark authorized by MITI. Lately I have seen this spelled as "Dentory", even on foils presented by Japanese companies. I am confused. Which is the correct spelling: Dentori or Dentory George Alspaugh ---

RE: Site Attenuation Measurement / Antenna Factors

2000-06-20 Thread Barry Ma
Hi, Please allow me to take the liberty of fwding this note in another discussion forum. Michael was talking about OATS validation using networm analyzer. -barry ma - From: Michael Foegelle [mailto:michael.foege...@emctest.com] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:15 AM To: Tim Harrington

General Product Safety and Liability Directives

2000-06-20 Thread WOODS
In the following discussion, I am interested in determining the legal aspects only. The General Product Safety Directive and the Liability Directives apply to consumer products and not to products used in the workplace. Consider electrical products that would otherwise be subject to the Low Voltag

Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam; Safety and EMC Requirements

2000-06-20 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, What are the requirements for Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam for Safety and EMC? Thanks Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmergue

RE: Philosophy for old designs with new requirements.

2000-06-20 Thread George Sparacino
Hello Don, As I understand it, once a standard has been replaced (reached it's DOW), product bearing the CE marking and intended for shipment to the EU must meet the requirements of the new standard. This almost always involves some degree of product redesign. I've found that this is also a good t

Re: Measuring noise, spectrum analyzer

2000-06-20 Thread Ralph Cameron
Ron Tektronix has some application notes for using spectrum analyzers in measuring CDMA signals which would apply to OATS sites. You may want to contact their local office as the notes are free. They may even be available on their web site Ralph Cameron EMC Consultant for Suppression of Consum

NAVSEA OP3565

2000-06-20 Thread Wismer, Sam
Group, I posted a question regarding NAVSEA OP3565 on or around the 13th and received a good response from someone on the list but I lost that email. Hopefully, he or someone else here can help with an additional question. I am looking for an opinion on whether or not our type of radio equipment

Re: Philosophy for old designs with new requirements.

2000-06-20 Thread Jim Hulbert
For EMC, if you have demonstrated compliance with the EMC Directive via the technical construction file route, you probably don't need to be concerned with new standards. You should check with the competent body that assessed the file. However, if you have demonstrated compliance with the EMC

MIL STD for 19" enclosures

2000-06-20 Thread David Monreal
Hi! First of all, thank you for the virus advise. Heh... I was about to open it when I saw your warning message. Thank you. Besides, I would like to know which are the MIL standards for 19" shielded enclosures. I'd also like to know if any MIL STD talks about seismic pads for those enclosures.

where I could get NIST tenical note?.

2000-06-20 Thread ylj
Group, Could anyone tell me where I could get NIST tenical note?. Thanks in advance, Lucian Yau

Is anything wrong with"http://assist.daps.mil"?

2000-06-20 Thread ylj
Group, Is anything wrong with"http://assist.daps.mil";? Thank you. Lucian Yau

RE: Jokes text -- MAY INCLUDE VIRUS!

2000-06-20 Thread Liew, Shih Perng
Thanks for your prompt warning. I received about 8 messages containing LIFE_STAGES.TXT and deleted all. SP -Original Message- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 1:51 AM To: tdonne...@lucent.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Jokes text --

FYI - AS/NZS 60950 (new AS/NZS 3260) Just Published

2000-06-20 Thread Kevin Richardson
Thought the group would be interested to know that the Australian equivalent of IEC 60950 3rd Edition has just been published (5 Jun 2000). The Australian equivalent to IEC 60950 has in the past been designated AS/NZS 3260 however, with Australia adopting the 3rd Edition of IEC 60950 we have rede

Re: Korea New EMI label

2000-06-20 Thread leejh
> 1) Is this logo replacing the old EMI/EMS logo (an oval shape logo > surrounded by Korean wording and approval number)? A>yes from 2000.5.22 > 2) When is this new logo effective? Any grandfather period? A>from 2000.5.22 > 3) Do previous approved products need to change to