RE: OSHA

2000-12-07 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
Ken, Regarding frequency of inspection, my sarcastic response (with a spritz of reality) is that this depends on the budget that our Congress gives them, which will vary year to year. In the past CAL-OSHA (the California arm of OSHA) was very aggressive in workplace inspections. Nowadays,

RE: Risk assessment

2000-12-07 Thread Cameron O'phee
Hi Stig, I have a copy of Croner's Industrial Equipment Safety which has a risk calculator which is based on a nomogram introduced in British Standard BS 5304:1988. The calculator has three input parameters, Probability level, Exposure Frequency and Consequences. The output of the calculator

CE Marking Cables

2000-12-07 Thread Courtland Thomas
Hello group, I would like to know if there are any requirements for CE Marking a cable or any passive device, such as a basic surge protector. Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety

RE: EN55024

2000-12-07 Thread rbusche
Barry brings up a good point. The products manufactured by my company, Evans Sutherland, are typically high computer systems (flight simulators) used in a Heavy Industrial environments. As such we routinely test to EN 55022 Class A (emissions) and EN 50082-2 (immunity). More recently we have

RE: EN55024

2000-12-07 Thread Barry Ma
Hi Chris, I agree with 99.9% of your convincing opinions with a tiny question. You said: “I believe its because the scope of EN 55024 is geared toward the residential, commercial and light industrial environment. If I were producing a piece of ITE equipment intended for a truly industrial

Re: Risk assessment

2000-12-07 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Stig: I believe you are interested in severity of injury, not potential for injury, or risk of injury. Here is a numerical assignment for severity of injury that I found in my files. I have no idea of its source. 10 Death 9 Long-term or permanent coma 8 Full body

Risk assessment

2000-12-07 Thread Stig Jorgensen
Hi Group, Dec 07,2000 I am in the process of establishing the potential for an injury from a hazard. I can get a reasonable 'expression' to describe the potential for a hazard to turn into an accident (event). I am looking for the words that classifies the

RE: EN55024

2000-12-07 Thread William D'Orazio
Chris, My point exactly! I was starting to wonder if my question was not clear. By the way you just made my colleagues Gold EMC List. I share the same point of view, the environment shall eventually decide the level! Thanks to all(I enjoyed the debate), William

Re: International Equivalent of EN50116

2000-12-07 Thread georgea
Tony, My understanding is that there is no international equivalent to EN50116. It is also my understanding that IEC 60950 incoporates the essential production testing requirements of EN50116 for ITE, viz. earthing resistance and electric strength. But then I have been wrong

RE: EN 61000-3-3 listing on a DoC.

2000-12-07 Thread Gary McInturff
I don't see the concern about identifying compliance with the standard. You analyzed it and discovered that it doesn't apply. By analyzing the requirement and arriving at a determination that it doesn't apply that constitutes , in my opinion, complaisance, just as sufficiently as passing

RE: EN 61000-3-3 listing on a DoC.

2000-12-07 Thread Wagner, John P (John)
Yes. A DOC without EN61000-3-3 may be interpreted as incomplete. We are in the same sitiuation as you -- our products don't cause fluctuations or fllicker. Nevertheless, we write a test report for EN61000-3-3 (just a paragraph or so) citing section 6.1 -- and we list EN61000-3-3 on the DOC.

International Equivalent of EN50116

2000-12-07 Thread Tony Reynolds
All, Can anyone point me in the right direction of an International Equivalent of the European Standard EN50116:1996 Information Technology Equipment - Routine Electrical Safety Testing in Production. Thanks Tony Reynolds Pitney Bowes

Flicker in DoC

2000-12-07 Thread ari . honkala
Hi Chris, how are you! I would say that nothing is done wrong if you assume that your product is in a scope of std but you consider it as compliant without testing. I thing the safest way would be to include the std in DoC and make a notion about the compliance w/o test in the file where you

RE: EN55024

2000-12-07 Thread Maxwell, Chris
Let me first say that I think people are missing the thrust of William's initial question. The ensuing debate has taken a life of its own. (I can't resist a debate, so I'll weigh in after looking at William's question). William is wondering why EN 55024 (an ITE standard) only has immunity limits

RE: EN 61000-3-3 listing on a DoC.

2000-12-07 Thread WOODS
Some standards are very clear that some tests may not be necessary under certain circumstances. It is required that the test report properly reflects what was done and a reason given for not performing a test. In my opinion, you can claim compliance to any standard when the equipment complies

RE: EN55024

2000-12-07 Thread Mark Gill
Only because I really enjoy stirring the pot...if you read EN 55022 1998, clause 4.2 clearly states, Class A is a category of all other ITE which satisfies Class A ITE limits but not the class B ITE limits. Such equipment should not be restricted in its sale but the following warning shall be

RE: Ground potentials and communications.

2000-12-07 Thread Mark Gill
Hey Cameron - Damaging currents can be either a.c. power currents due to different ground potentials, a.c. fault currents, or large lightning surges (due to external strikes as well as intrabuilding). These phenomena are the reason shielded cables can not be consistently connected at both ends

Re: EN 61000-3-3 listing on a DoC.

2000-12-07 Thread reheller
Good questiondoes this also hold true for 61000-3-2 if your product is under 75 watts? == Chris Allen chris_al...@eur.3com.com on 12/07/2000 03:31:14 AM Please respond to Chris Allen

SLIM Latest 2000.6

2000-12-07 Thread Alan E Hutley
The very latest SLIM document can be downloaded from our web site. Just log on and select Newsflash. It is a21 page pdf file. If you prefer I can email it to you in Word. Cheers Alan E Hutley Editor EMC+Compliance Journal www.emc-journal.co.uk http://www.emc-journal.co.uk/ nutwoo...@msn.com

EN 61000-3-3 listing on a DoC.

2000-12-07 Thread Chris Allen
I have a question regarding EN 61000-3-3. The standard states under section 6.1 that Tests shall not be made on equipment which is unlikely to produce significant voltage flicker and fluctuations. This is true for the equipment in question. I have been asked by a customer to included the

RE: EN55024

2000-12-07 Thread CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more...
Just to stay with the apples: Compliance to EN 55022 is like ordering an apple on the Internet. Your ordered it, but will you receive an apple ? Compliance with EN 55022 gives presumption of compliance only. When the product standard refuses to comply to what the EC had in mind , the EN will

Ground potentials and communications.

2000-12-07 Thread Cameron O'phee
Hi All, I believe there would be safety considerations when using non-isolated RS 485 for communications between machines that may be separated by large distances in a building and consequently be powered from different circuits/phases. The communication circuits ground is connected to the

RE: Current revision of the aircraft Standard (RTCA-D0-160?)?

2000-12-07 Thread Price, Ed
Bill: Sorry, but I don't have any info about DO-160B. DO-160D, issued 29 July 1997, is the current version. There is a US Department of Transportation FAA Advisory Circular, AC 21-16D, dated 21 July 1998, which recommends that DO-160D may be used to demonstrate airworthiness requirements. It