Re: UL1950 vs EN60950

2001-04-19 Thread David Gelfand
Two differences that come to mind are - UL has power line cross tests not in EN. UL protective earthing resistance tests for two minutes, EN one minute. Others? David Gelfand Regulatory Approvals Memotec Communications Inc. Montreal Canada --- This

RE: Remote Hazrdous Secondary Voltage Power Feeding on Lan Cablin g

2001-04-19 Thread David_Sterner
Peter, The only widely used, potentially unsafe cabling for 802.x is shielded twisted pair (STP) --- sorry, Europeans. Since STP shield termination is undefined in 802.x; there is no prohibition against connecting two pieces of Class 2 equipment, potentially connecting dissimilar earth

Excess EMC Test equipment

2001-04-19 Thread Don Clayton
Correction: The Biconical antenna is a Tensor model 4104 not EMCO. Tensor changed it's name to EMCO. This Bicon is same as EMCO 3104 and I do have factory manual with antenna factors. No recent calibration has been done. --- This message is from the IEEE

RE: STA process with the FCC for immunity testing outside a scree n room

2001-04-19 Thread Lou Guerin
Paul, A STA is a Special Temporary Authorization issued by the FCC in accordance with 47 CFR Part 5, ยง5.56. It is only good for 6 months and can renewed once. You can apply for a STA by going to the FCC website https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/index_els.html . Regards, Lou Guerin Littlefeet,

RE: Remote Hazrdous Secondary Voltage Power Feeding on Lan Cabling

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Peter - 1) Agreed. Keep in mind that IEEE 802.3 compliant signals are unearthed SELV and how SELV is derived in the power source was not specified. 2) There are potential problems, but this is not to say insurmountable. I doubt, however, that LAN cable meeting Reinforced insulation

RE: UL1950 vs EN60950

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Amund - For the most part, installation code issues, component standard issues, power cross (overvoltage) testing and a number of other items sprinkled throughout the standard. You will need to buy a copy of the standard to get the full picture. It is not simple enough to place in an e-mail.

Re: STA process with the FCC for immunity testing outside a screen room

2001-04-19 Thread Cortland Richmond
An STA is basically a permit for operation not normally allowed a license holder. However, RF immunity testing covers so many frequencies, at such power, that unless the nearest town is over the horizon, and you have jungle canopy overhead to absorb RF and keep from jamming satellites, I think it

Re: STA process with the FCC for immunity testing outside a screen room

2001-04-19 Thread Jacob Schanker
Paul: STA stands for Special Temporary Authorization. In my experience, it is a process for getting short-term (up to 6 month) FCC authorization to operate a radio transmitter under either unusual conditions, or conditions for which you don't have a currently valid license. For instance, I've

EN50191 Safety in Electrical Testing

2001-04-19 Thread Mark
This month's Approval magazine has an article by Gary Davis of Clare Instruments on EN50191 (March 2001) which apparently covers safe electrical testing of products: equipment - methods - procedures - competency etc. The legal clout with regard to compliance in the UK will come from the

Safety Incidents

2001-04-19 Thread WOODS
My company has a standard process for the reporting and follow up of alleged safety incidents concerning our products. We are now attempting to create a standard format for the final report to ensure that all of the necessary aspects of the investigation are complete and adequately documented

STA process with the FCC for immunity testing outside a screen room

2001-04-19 Thread paul_j_smith
Dear Folks, It was recently suggested that an STA be on file with the FCC so that a scan test can be done outside a screen room ? Does anyone have any details on this STA process and who to contact to complete this STA application. Best Regards,Paul J Smith

RE: Odd CE mark...

2001-04-19 Thread Price, Ed
--- David Gelfand gelf...@memotec.com wrote: What directive covers this? http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/images/40U/40U-2712_headstock-back.jpg David I wonder if you could craft an Antiques Directive, or would that be a logical anachronism? Regards, Ed

RE: RSS139 and RSS210

2001-04-19 Thread WOODS
Peter, you can find these documents on line at http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/spectrum/engdoc/spect1.html http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/spectrum/engdoc/spect1.html Perform a search on RSS to find the documents. Richard Woods -- From: Peter Merguerian

RE: UL1950 vs EN60950

2001-04-19 Thread John Juhasz
Amund, I am going to be simplistic here (excuse me if I left something out) .. . . primarily the differences are with mains voltage rating and the tests that are involved (if you have 'universal input' they will test the product - like temperature testing- at various input voltages) and national

Re: Odd CE mark...

2001-04-19 Thread Nick Williams
It's an electric guitar, so I guess the CE mark will be there for the EMC directive. Rgds Nick. At 14:50 -0700 18/4/2001, Hans Mellberg wrote: Toy Directive is my guess!!! Hans --- David Gelfand gelf...@memotec.com wrote: What directive covers this?

RE: Major Differences between UL1950 and EN 60 950

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Amund, Major Differences are: 1. Overvoltage Test on TNV-1 and TNV-3 interfaces. 2. Components must meet US/Canadian component requirements. 3. Equipment (mainly permanently connected equipment) must meet the US National Electrical Code and Canadian Electrical Code requirements. 4.

RSS139 and RSS210

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, Can anyone identify what RSS139 and RSS210 standards stand for? It looks like Canadian requirements for receiving and transmitting equipment. If so, what are the equivalent FCC or other standards? Thank you. PETER S. MERGUERIAN Technical Director I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. 26

UL1950 vs EN60950

2001-04-19 Thread amund
Safety folks, What are the major differences between UL1950 and EN60950 ? Best regards Amund Westin, Oslo/Norway ... still winter ... 25cm powder this morning... -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su --- This

RE: CE Marking of modules

2001-04-19 Thread amund
Safety folks, What are the major differences between UL1950 and EN60950 ? Best regards Amund Westin, Oslo/Norway ... still winter ... 25cm powder this morning... -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su --- This

Re: SELV vs ELV

2001-04-19 Thread Lou Aiken
Perhaps the connector contains both mains and secondary circuits and does NOT provide reinforced insulation between those circuits - or maybe not. In any case the problem surrounding the connector can best be answered by the engineer at UL who determined the connector is the reason the output

Re:

2001-04-19 Thread Patrick Wong
Hi Gary, Can you tell me the detail of your product. For EMC it will be ok for IT product to Hong Kong. However it still have to comply the safety requirement based on IEC 60950 (unless it operates less then 45V- i.e. extra low voltage) based on the EMSD regulation for the HK government.

Re: SELV vs ELV

2001-04-19 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Dave: the UL report for the PSU, it states that the output is ELV, not SELV, because of the connector interfacing the modules to the rack. I don't see how a connector makes the difference between ELV and SELV. The terms ELV and SELV imply the energy is derived from a hazardous

Re: 115 V US plug or 230 V Euro plug on a 100-230 V ITE Equipment Ra ting

2001-04-19 Thread Patrick Lawler
You should probably include the Philippines on the list as well. I've heard anecdotal stories about people bringing their US appliances to the Philippines, only to have them burn out when they plugged the cord into the 216VAC NEMA wall socket. Apparently, a common solution is to use a step-down