Re: Production Line Test Requirements - Medical Devices

2001-05-21 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: Because continuity at low current does not ensure that the protective circuit will carry a large fault current - it might be 'hanging on by one strand'. Yes, for one strand. No, for five strands. Some years ago, I did some experiments on what problems the 25-amp test

Environmental test labs

2001-05-21 Thread David Heald
Greetings all, I am looking for recommendations for a NEBS environmental test lab that has an operational temp/humidity chamber of significant size and with tremendous cooling capacity (8kW or more). I have a large (6+'wide, 7+'tall) telecom product that consumes about 8kW of energy during

RE: Cooking induction apparatus and FCC

2001-05-21 Thread Gary McInturff
Sorry, once again ham fisted typing lead to C64.5 rather than the proper C63.4 - my error hope it didn't confuse to many folks. Thanks for straightening that out. Gary -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:39 PM To: Gary

RE: Cooking induction apparatus and FCC

2001-05-21 Thread reheller
Part 18 still uses MP-5 but it is not mandatory. In cases of dispute, MP-5 will be used by the FCC. You can't go wrong, however, using ANSI C63.4 as the test set-up. Or you can use the CISPR limits as Gary described. I do not know what C64.5 is. You do not have to submit your test results

Re: Public Health and Safety Signs - Tomfoolery so delete if you

2001-05-21 Thread John Woodgate
200105211432.kaa24...@interlock2.lexmark.com, oover...@lexmark.com inimitably wrote: I once read a safety article (tongue-in-cheek I believe) that said that the safety industry was weaking the species by allowing the weak and feable to continue exist and procreate. I believe that this was

Re: Production Line Test Requirements - Medical Devices

2001-05-21 Thread John Woodgate
36BDBCA75E0FD411A80100104B93ABF202C2C079@MGCMAIL, Dick Grobner dick.grob...@medgraph.com inimitably wrote: Why wouldn't a simple continuity tests as defined by UL be appropriate from equipment coming off of the production line (assuring that the protective earth circuit in intake)? Because

Re: UL P.A.G.

2001-05-21 Thread John Woodgate
lobbjbnlajjdfilpcaancehncjaa.peperkin...@cs.com, Pete Perkins peperkin...@cs.com inimitably wrote: Some standards committees themselves work to clarify the requirements; for instance TC74/IEC 60950 has a chairman's advisory panel that will answer questions from IEC national committees (not from

RE: Production Line Test Requirements - Medical Devices

2001-05-21 Thread Ned Devine
Hi Dick, The requirement for using 10 to 25 Amps comes from the test house. It is their mark. If you want to use it, they can require you to do anything they want. Is it fair, no. Does the requirement make engineering sense, no (I believe that Rich Nute did an article on how this requirement

Test Equipment

2001-05-21 Thread Courtland Thomas
Hello group, I am interested in purchasing some new/used test equipment. I am looking specifically for a 'Digital Balance Analyzer' and an 'AC Stress/Hazardous Voltage/Hazardous Current Analyzer'. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics

RE: UL P.A.G.

2001-05-21 Thread Fee John
Hi You mentioned the CTL Decisions. While I understand that not all the decisions have been placed on the web yet, you will find many of them at www.iecee.org. Try under CTL or CTL Decisions John Fee National Electronics Technology Centre Enterprise Ireland Phone +353-1-8082214 Fax +353-1-8370705

RE: Cooking induction apparatus and FCC

2001-05-21 Thread Gary McInturff
Bon Jour (That's about it for my French) Pierre, MP-5 isn't relevant any more. I believe you want ANSI C64.5. and I think you'll find mostly similarities. I can't think of any dissimilarities of the top of my head, Even FCC part 15 allows use of the CISPR limits for radiated and conducted

RE: Cooking induction apparatus and FCC

2001-05-21 Thread Gary McInturff
-Original Message- From: Pierre SELVA [mailto:pierre.se...@worldonline.fr] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:09 AM To: Forum Safety-emc Cc: Pierre SELVA Subject: Cooking induction apparatus and FCC Dear colleagues, I need to know your opinion on the following : I have to perform EMC

RE: Production Line Test Requirements - Medical Devices

2001-05-21 Thread Dick Grobner
Jon Thx for the info, however, I re-checked the two known US standards (UL2601, Appendix D - Manufacturer's Responsibilities, Construction Considerations and Requirements for Factory Tests) (NFPA 99, Grounding Circuit Continuity - Measurement of Resistance). UL defines Production Line Grounding

RE: Public Health and Safety Signs - Tomfoolery so delete if you don't have the time.

2001-05-21 Thread Nerad, Daren HS-SNS
Gary, We learned about this one almost 13 years ago with the first baby... My wife inadvertently went through about a pot of coffee while on the phone (long distance) with a rarely seen friend. In a way, the results of that were much worse than passing on a glass of wine or two!! Since neither

RE: UL P.A.G.

2001-05-21 Thread Pete Perkins
PSNet UL Practical application guide discussion Several good points have been made in the discussion of the practical application guide supplied by UL; I’ll add my U$ two-bits worth here Let's start with a story: the question of interpretation has been with us for a long time. An old timer,

RE: Li-ion Batteries

2001-05-21 Thread Michael Mertinooke
Is there a European standard for Li-ion batteries? Is there a battery directive? If yes, what standards is applicable? CE mark required? -- As far as I know, the relevant EU directive is 98/101/EC, 22 December 1998, which adapts 91/157/EEC on batteries and accumulators. This only

Re: Public Health and Safety Signs - Tomfoolery so delete if you

2001-05-21 Thread ooverton
I once read a safety article (tongue-in-cheek I believe) that said that the safety industry was weaking the species by allowing the weak and feable to continue exist and procreate. I believe that this was directed toward the mentally weak and feable (read stoopid). By warning them about

Cooking induction apparatus and FCC

2001-05-21 Thread Pierre SELVA
Dear colleagues, I need to know your opinion on the following : I have to perform EMC testing on an induction cooking table and I would like to obtain the FCC certification. In Europe, this kind of apparatus is subjected to the EN55011 (CISPR11) and the test conditions are clearly stated, mainly