RE: Clean class B test bed

2002-02-08 Thread George Stults
Hi Tony, I was in the same position last year. Dell Dimension 500 MHz was recommended to me. I bought mine refurbished and ended up with a faster motherboard. I ordered two of them which was a good thing because the shield was bad on one of the keyboards. For a monitor I used a NEC MultiSync

Re: Clean class B test bed

2002-02-08 Thread Robert Macy
Tony, When we had to test a 100MHz video two board system, weaknesses in grounding structures of the PC's became extremely evident. Two stood out as the best (best internal motherboard grounding) Gateway (best) and Dell (very close 2nd best). No other PC's yielded a compliant system. [ Even

Re: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread Nick Rouse
To be pedantic, you are mixing units of two different quantities there Mike. Tesla and gauss are units of magnetic flux density, the B field Ampere/metre and oersted are units of magnetic field strength, the H field. Only in a vacuum does 1A/m generate a flux density of exactly 0.4 pi µT In air

TEM Cells

2002-02-08 Thread K . Maclean
Hi, Folks - We have noticed that not everybody is using the same formula for calculating E-field inside of a TEM cell. Does anyone out there have practical formulas (and/or any other useful information...) relating power to the E-field? Many thanks in advance, Cheers, Kate Kathy M.

Re: Clean class B test bed

2002-02-08 Thread Cortland Richmond
Tony, When I was in the computer business, we looked for clean _peripherals_. But merely having one that has few emissions of its own is not enough. You also need to get one that neither sends any down its peripheral connections, nor passes those peripherals contribute to be radiated. This turns

Clean class B test bed

2002-02-08 Thread Tony
Hello, I am looking to find a clean Class B test bed (PC) for radiated emission testing. If anyone knows of such a thing please post the manufacturer, model number, any other information I would need to acquire one for use here. Thanks for the help. Tony Rayman

12 Feb Silicon Valley EMC Society Meeting Notice

2002-02-08 Thread Tom Cokenias
Topic: COST EFFECTIVE PCB DESIGN Speaker:John Howard When: Tuesday 12 February 5:30PM social, meeting at 7 PM (Food and soft drinks provided) Where: SGI (Silicon Graphics) 1600 Amphitheater Parkway Building 40, Ozone Cafe Mountain View, CA Abstract

RE: TUV NRTL

2002-02-08 Thread richwoods
The meaning of TUV per TUV Product Service web site. Independent TUV's (Technischer Uberwachungsverein, English translation: Technical Inspection Association) were founded in the 1870's by the German steam boiler industry. These regional organizations helped regulate and supervise the safety of

RE: radiated emission from 15 inch TFT-LCD

2002-02-08 Thread Garnier, David S (MED)
Hi, The Hitachi Europe website has a app note on flat panel displays called APPS/043/1.0, titled flat panel displays - emi considerations. I have a copy on my hard drive that I would be willing to send. dave garnier -Original Message- From: XU,CATHERINE (HP-SanDiego,ex1)

Re: TUV NRTL

2002-02-08 Thread wronzio
George, I forgot!!! Sorry!!! The Best translations for GS are: Tested Safety Approved Safety Proved Safety I have spoken to many of the German engineers. It appears that there is not a Direct Translation as I get a

Re: TUV NRTL

2002-02-08 Thread wronzio
To all, TUV is Technischer UeberwachungsVerein The best English Translation is Technical Inspection Association/ Club To gain more information regarding the translations and history go to www.tuv.com. Click on Germany - About Us - Our History Bill Ronzio Southeast Area Manager TUV

RE: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread Mike Cantwell
I think the units you're looking to compare to would be Amps/meter. The conversion from Tesla to A/m is: 1 A/m = 1.26 uT = 0.0126 Gauss Therefore, a field of .7 mT converts to 555 A/m !!! (it is also equivalent to 10 Gauss) Assuming that your customer is referring to power frequency magnetic

TUV NRTL

2002-02-08 Thread georgea
It occurs to me that many folks are not aware that there are many different TUV agencies authorized to issue the German GS certificate. In other words, not all agencies with TUV in their title have the same country laboratory recognition. The Standards Council of Canada lists TUV Rheinland of

Re: CISPR Compliant EMI Receiver/SA

2002-02-08 Thread Lfresearch
Hi all, I like to use a spectrum analyser more for diagnostics, and a receiver for compliance work. Of course I'm biased, but the Schaffner receiver currently covers 1 GHz, and the new version about to hit the streets goes to around 20 GHz. Both are CISPR 16 compliant. I personally feel

RE: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread Crabb, John
There are a series of ENs, 50121, relating to EMC requirements for railway equipment. That's all I know - I just noted in my records back in 1997 that they were starting to appear. I also note in EN 61000-4-8 Power frequency magnetic field immunity, that 1 A/m corresponds to a free space

Re: NOM Mark

2002-02-08 Thread georgea
Divine, I do know that Mexico uses 127V nominal, and standard U.S. type plugs, both two blade and two blade with ground pin. You do NOT have to provide three pin plugs unless device is Class I. See Mexico at: http://www.panelcomponents.com/guide.htm NOM is more of an import certification

Re: TUV NRTL

2002-02-08 Thread paul_j_smith
We use TUVRNA for NRTL very successfully. Paul J. Smith, Teradyne, Boston richwo...@tycoint.com@majordomo.ieee.org on 02/07/2002 02:17:45 PM Please respond to richwo...@tycoint.com Sent by: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject: TUV NRTL

Re: CISPR Compliant EMI Receiver/SA

2002-02-08 Thread Scott . Mee
Richard, We have had great experience using the Rohde Schwarz ESI-7. (20Hz - 7GHz) This receiver takes measurements very quickly, and is very friendly over the GPIB bus. If you're concerned about price, this unit may not be for you, but if you are willing to spend some money, you will get

SV: SV: Immunity Standards

2002-02-08 Thread amund
See attached file. I assume that this is the latest published OJ for EMC standards. I can't find EN61000-6-1 listed. For the moment I don't have any information if there are any problems with this standard. But I have seen that DOP will be April 1 2002. Could it mean that the Commission do not

RE: SV: Immunity Standards

2002-02-08 Thread Colgan, Chris
I checked the OJ a couple of days ago (not just the reflist, I searched all documents after the latest reflist for EMC stuff) and it was not mentioned. Chris -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [SMTP:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 07 February 2002 23:45 To:

NOM Mark

2002-02-08 Thread Divina Ng
Dear All, Is anybody know about the NOM Mark? What is the applicable standard for an AC Operated Desk Lamp? In order to get the NOM Approval, does it need to have the power plug a 3 pin type of plug even though there's no earth grounding connected. Any feedback from you all regarding this

Re: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Robert Macy m...@california.com wrote (in 013301c1b033$eed45cc0$69e10...@robert.macy.california.com) about 'Teslars???', on Thu, 7 Feb 2002: I don't believe those numbers. We have light rail train go by here which is powered by 600Vac (I believe it's 600 Vac) I haven't

Re: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Robert Macy m...@california.com wrote (in 013301c1b033$eed45cc0$69e10...@robert.macy.california.com) about 'Teslars???', on Thu, 7 Feb 2002: If you're English, 1 tesla is 10,000 gauss. It is, but electronic engineers in Britain use SI units. Magnetic materials

Re: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread Tom Cokenias
Martin, I believe they were saying Tesla (units of magnetic flux density) 1 Tesla = 10,000 gauss so 1 mTesla = 10 gauss There is a relationship between flux density (B) and magnetic field (H) in A/m B = mu H (Greek letter mu represents permeability of the material) EN 61000-4-8 for power

Re: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread Ken Javor
In the MKS system of units, also known as SI(International System), 1 Tesla = 1 Weber per square meter. Relating it to more usual units, 1 T = 10,000 Gauss, which was the unit in the older cgs measurement system. The equation defining the relationship between magnetic field and the currents

RE: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread WELLMAN,RON (A-PaloAlto,ex1)
I did a search on Hotbot to see what a Teslar is. Some interesting references come up about watches and protection against EMFs. Here is an example: http://www.lessemf.com/schumann.html Regards, +=+ |Ronald R. Wellman

RE: radiated emission from 15 inch TFT-LCD

2002-02-08 Thread XU,CATHERINE (HP-SanDiego,ex1)
Hi, The following paper might be a good references on this topic: EMC analysis of an 18 LCD monitor Zeeff, T.M.; Hubing, T.H.; Drewniak, J.L.; Dussroff, R.E.; Van Doren, T.P. Electromagnetic Compatibility, 2000. IEEE International Symposium on , Volume: 1 , 2000 Page(s): 169 -173 vol.1

Re: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread Robert Macy
That's Tesla, which is a weber per sq meter. It is a measure of the B field, flux per area. If you're English, 1 tesla is 10,000 gauss. I don't believe those numbers. We have light rail train go by here which is powered by 600Vac (I believe it's 600 Vac) I haven't seen the fields from the

Re: Teslars???

2002-02-08 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Joe: We have a customer that is concerned about how our product, laboratory equipment, will respond to electromagnetic disturbances from a high speed train that runs close to their lab. The customer states that the disturbance will be around 0.7-1.2 m Teslar. I believe you

Re: SV: Immunity Standards

2002-02-08 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that am...@westin-emission.no wrote (in LFENJLPMMJB mhpeibnilceleccaa.am...@westin-emission.no) about 'SV: Immunity Standards', on Thu, 7 Feb 2002: CENELEC has proposed DOW July 1 2004. But first it must be published in the Official Journal. Are you sure that it has not