Re: Measurement uncertainties for voltage measurement

2003-09-24 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@bocedwards.com wrote (in E1BA0362B28ED211A1E80008C71EA3060206FDB3@z- 160-100-30-252.est.ibm.com) about 'Measurement uncertainties for voltage measurement' on Wed, 24 Sep 2003: All measurements are less than 15V DC. How much less and to how many

RE: Measurement uncertainties for voltage measurement

2003-09-24 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
Ian, I am assuming you are connecting the reference source to the calibrated meter and to the meter to be calibrated (DUT). I am also assuming that the reference is a variable voltage source covering the range you need to calibrate. Draw a diagram of the system and there and list the parts and

Ethernet transformer that meets 60950 basic insulation requirements

2003-09-24 Thread douglas_beckw...@mitel.com
Hi Someone on the list was asking a week or so ago about an ethernet transformer that meets the 60950 basic insulation requirements. Forgive me, my brain is little and I forgot who. I have the information on the part, so whoever it was, please email me and I will send it

Measurement uncertainties for voltage measurement

2003-09-24 Thread Gordon,Ian
Everyone, This may seem to be a little out of the groups remit but someone may have had experience of this. I am trying to determine the measurement uncertainty associated with calibrating an instrument which is essentially a voltmeter. This is done using a reference voltage source and a second,

Re: DC PSU for conducted immunity testing to EN61000-4-6

2003-09-24 Thread Ken Javor
Why not build an unregulated linear power supply out of parts from Radio Shack? Or buy a cheap 12 Volt lead-acid battery 1 or 2 Amp trickle charger and put a filter cap on the output. As long as it is unregulated, it should not respond in any anomalous fashion to EMI. From: Chris Chileshe

RE: Safety Standards Comparison

2003-09-24 Thread Doug Massey
Hi Reg - 60950, in its various forms, is the safety standard for Information Technology Equipment. IEC 60950 = 'root' standard. UL60950 = IEC 60950 + US / Canadian national differences. EN 60950 = IEC 60950 + national deviations of all EU/EFTA countries. IEC 60529 is a standard for determining

Re: DC PSU for conducted immunity testing to EN61000-4-6

2003-09-24 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Chileshe chris.chile...@ultronics.com wrote (in 01c3827e.ebde2400.chris.chile...@ultronics.com) about 'DC PSU for conducted immunity testing to EN61000-4-6' on Wed, 24 Sep 2003: Question 1: Is anyone aware of a power supply suitable for this type of testing? The

RE: Safety Standards Comparison

2003-09-24 Thread Reginald Henry
Group, Thank you all for the information. I got it ! RH From: Sam Davis [mailto:sda...@ptitest.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:24 AM To: Reginald Henry; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Safety Standards Comparison 60950 (IEC or EN) is a safety standard for Information

RE: Safety Standards Comparison

2003-09-24 Thread Sam Davis
60950 (IEC or EN) is a safety standard for Information Technology Equipment (ITE). It is the standard for evaluation of a piece of ITE equipment for electric shock, energy hazards, fire hazards, radiation hazards, chemical hazards, and mechanical hazards. 60529 (IEC or EN) is the ingress

RE: generic standards and competent bodies

2003-09-24 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
Hi Miquel, Basically you can use the self-certification route with all From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Miguel Abrahams Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:35 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: generic standards and

RE: generic standards and competent bodies

2003-09-24 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
Hi Miguel Yes, all standards listed in the OJ list of harmonized standards qualify for self certification. That includes all generic standards. You may download a list on many sites among ours. Self certification also includes signing a liability declaration and of course is no easy way to

RE: Safety Standards Comparison

2003-09-24 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Reg - 60950 is a product safety standard for ITE 60529 is an ingress protection reference standard for outdoor use equipment/enclosures Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Homologation Services Sanmina-SCI Corp. San Jose, CA peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com From: Reginald

Safety Standards Comparison

2003-09-24 Thread Reginald Henry
Group, SAFETY: EN60950 vs. IEC60529 (Taiwan ) standard. Has anyone here worked with these two standards enough to give me the basic differences and similarities between the two ? Thanks in advance Reg Henry This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical

RE: DC PSU for conducted immunity testing to EN61000-4-6

2003-09-24 Thread Chris Chileshe
Group After reading Ray's reply, I realise I had written LISN instead of CDN. Kindly replace LISN with CDN in my original posting. Rgds From: r...@rpgarner.freeserve.co.uk [SMTP:r...@rpgarner.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:39 PM To: Chris Chileshe;

Re: DC PSU for conducted immunity testing to EN61000-4-6

2003-09-24 Thread r...@rpgarner.freeserve.co.uk
Chris, I would suggest you need to change your test house. A good test house would already have power supplies available fed via filters to the test bench. They would also have ambient measurement information available to proof that their power supply was suitable for testing. I am also

generic standards and competent bodies

2003-09-24 Thread Miguel Abrahams
Hello group, When you are testing according to generic standards, can the self-certification route be taken, or does a competent bodies needs to be involved? Thanks, Miguel Abrahams CAE Inc. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion

RE: DC PSU for conducted immunity testing to EN61000-4-6

2003-09-24 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
Hi Chris, The power supply definitely should be decoupled by a standard CDN (f.a. CDN-T2) in order to couple the RF current from the calmp to ground. Then any standard power supply will probably do the job. This is exactly one of the major drawback (apart from needing higher power amps) that

RE: Country Homologation Requirements for .......

2003-09-24 Thread Collins, Jeffrey
Group, I'm looking for your opinion on telecommunication requirements for the following countries. Specifically, this is in reference to the following types of telecom gear: -48VDC, No PSTN connection, normally found in Central Office locations As this information seems to be vague or

Re:

2003-09-24 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Lothar Schmidt lothar.schm...@cetecomusa.com wrote (in 5EFB06767D7DD211828C0008C74CE95BEB7C68@calvin) about '' on Tue, 23 Sep 2003: The standard is not harmonized yet, but recently published. ALL ENs are identical in all CENELEC countries, which is the real, original

Arcing Sparking

2003-09-24 Thread Speakman, Jim
Fellow Listers, Many thanks to all those that responded to my query on arcing and sparking. I now have a much better appreciation of the difference. All of your answers will be passed to the original design review team from whence the query came. Cheers Jim __ Jim

DC PSU for conducted immunity testing to EN61000-4-6

2003-09-24 Thread Chris Chileshe
Group, After quite a struggle to get a product through conducted immunity tests (clamp method), I finally discovered that the weak link in the chain was in fact my laboratory power supply which I have been taking along with me to a nearby test house. The problem remained undetected for a

Re: Measurement of touch current

2003-09-24 Thread Neil Helsby
I am not into 3-phase but from my long ago college days I would see no reason for the star to star not being correct and I guess that the critical factor is the star isolating transformer. I would also agree with your transforms for different voltages / frequencies. You don't say which of the

TONIGHT - Chicago PSTC Meeting - CCC Chinese Compulsory Certification - THURS Sept 25th, 5:30pm for 6pm

2003-09-24 Thread Glyn Garside
Reminder: Ken Thomas ktho...@productsafetyinc.com 08/15/2003 15:26 To: list Subject: Chicago PSTC Meeting Announcement Please see the attached for information on our next meeting. Guests are welcome. Please ask any guest to RSVP so that we can make sure we have enough seats and