Re: [PSES] UL 60950-1 clause 2.2.3

2014-09-07 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Rich Nute writes: I believe the authors of 60950-22 expected that user-accessible parts would comprise SELV circuits rather than grounded parts. See 2.1.1 and 2.2 in 60950-1. Grounded parts would be subject to 5.1 in 60950-1. Thank you. So what can the

Re: [PSES] UL 60950-1 clause 2.2.3

2014-09-07 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: I believe the authors of 60950-22 expected that user-accessible parts would comprise SELV circuits rather than grounded parts. See 2.1.1 and 2.2 in 60950-1. Grounded parts would be subject to 5.1 in 60950-1. Best regards, Rich - Original Message - From: John Cochran D

Re: [PSES] UL 60950-1 clause 2.2.3

2014-09-07 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Sun, 7 Sep 2014, John Cochran writes: Actually I need to meet the standard for outdoor enclosures, UL 60950-22, and clause 6.1 refers back to UL 60950-1 clause 2.2.2 and 2.2.3.  The difference is the voltage limits are reduced, due to contact resistance of the body being

Re: [PSES] UL 60950-1 clause 2.2.3

2014-09-07 Thread John Cochran
Actually I need to meet the standard for outdoor enclosures, UL 60950-22, and clause 6.1 refers back to UL 60950-1 clause 2.2.2 and 2.2.3. The difference is the voltage limits are reduced, due to contact resistance of the body being reduced when subjected to wet locations. The clause states th

[PSES] FCC EMI Test and Ferrites on Cables

2014-09-07 Thread Scott Douglas
I want to thank all who have been contributing to this thread. Thanks, too, for the reference to the FCC regulation section that backs up what we all know. And just to close this loop, I provided the rule part to the designer and he changed his mind and said he would ship the product with the

Re: [PSES] FCC EMI Test and Ferrites on Cables - a conundrum

2014-09-07 Thread Bill Owsley
For the FCC as noted in the post, special equipment, that is the stuff needed to pass the test, must be supplied with the equipment with instructions for using it. For example, the ferrites originally mentioned. In the EU, this has been held to be too complicated for the common consumer and s

Re: [PSES] FCC EMI Test and Ferrites on Cables - a conundrum

2014-09-07 Thread Doug Powell
Pat,It is incumbent on the original manufacturer to include any information pertinent to the correct use and operation of the product. ‎Many manufacturers have a "Conditions of Use" section in in their user manuals right behind the safety section. Of course would include any required I/O cables.  A

Re: [PSES] FCC EMI Test and Ferrites on Cables - a conundrum

2014-09-07 Thread Pat Lawler
All, I was looking through sales ads for electronics equipment, and saw a Blu-Ray disc player from a major company that came with an HDMI cable. In the past, I would have just considered this a convenience to the buyer, like including batteries for remote controls. Now, I'm wondering if the HDMI