Re: [PSES] CISPR 32 adoption

2015-02-20 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm certainly no statistician, but on page 11, it states, A manufacturer, knowing the typical standard deviation of RFI measurements on his products, can – using the 80%/80% rule - estimate the required margin to the limit already with a single prototype.

Re: [PSES] CISPR 32 adoption

2015-02-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message OF632FC821.D7AF2A0F-ON88257DF2.00726988-88257DF2.007367B6@US.Schneider-E lectric.com, dated Fri, 20 Feb 2015, ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com writes: A manufacturer, knowing the typical standard deviation of RFI measurements on his products, can – using the 80%/80% rule -

Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment?

2015-02-20 Thread Joe Randolph
Doug, Dave, Don, Rich: Thanks for your input on this confusing topic. Based on your input, my tentative conclusions can be summarized as follows: 1) The NEC requires an NRTL listing on all products that connect to the public telecommunications network (including ordinary

Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment?

2015-02-20 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Joe: I suppose that in theory, an AHJ could go into a Wal-Mart or other retail store and tag consumer telephone products that lack an NRTL listing, but my impression is that few AHJ’s are that zealous. When I first came to Oregon (1960s), Oregon had two full-time inspectors

Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment?

2015-02-20 Thread Kevin Robinson
OSHA Conducted a Request for Information (RFI) back in 2008 that compared the effectiveness and overall costs of SDoC vs 3rd Party Conformity assessment, the full summary report can be found here http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=OSHA-2008-0032-0099 . While there was no clean data

Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment?

2015-02-20 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
I'm drifting ever so slightly off topic now but . . . legislation certainly keeps NRTLs in business. I've long admired the EU model, where manufactures declare compliance and are responsible for it. Do we really need 3rd party certification in USA, Canada, Australia, etc? I think the new