I'm drifting ever so slightly off topic now but . . . legislation certainly keeps NRTLs in business. I've long admired the EU model, where manufactures declare compliance and are responsible for it. Do we really need 3rd party certification in USA, Canada, Australia, etc? I think the new approach directives and CE mark in Europe is working. _______________________________________________________________________________
Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering From: Richard Nute <[email protected]> To: [email protected], Date: 02/20/2015 02:21 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment? Hi Joe: I suppose that in theory, an AHJ could go into a Wal-Mart or other retail store and tag consumer telephone products that lack an NRTL listing, but my impression is that few AHJ’s are that zealous. When I first came to Oregon (1960s), Oregon had two full-time inspectors who did just that. Laws or rules in many jurisdictions (e.g., Los Angeles) say that non-certified products cannot be sold or even offered for sale. One of my former employers was cited in Los Angeles for showing a non-certified product – an engineering sample – at an electronics show. So, the retailer is held responsible to sell only certified products. Most retailers abide by the laws that apply to them. Best regards, Rich ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. ______________________________________________________________________ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to < [email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>

