RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-13 Thread Mel Pedersen
:Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design In a message dated 98-10-12, Mel Pederson writes: If one considers the worst case (DC) voltages that could possibly exist on TNV-3 lines and also SELV circuits, and considers the likelihood that these are at opposite polarity, one would obtain a worst

Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-13 Thread Egon H. Varju
Greetings, The thing that has to be kept in mind though, is that the normal operating voltage is not what is important. What is important is the ringing voltage. The normal operating voltage in North America is only 48 V dc, but when the phone rings, this ringing voltage is nominally 90 V ac.

Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-13 Thread Kaan_Gregersen
Hello, Its me again, with another two cents (Hey! maybe this one is worth a nickel... :-). Clause 2.2.7.4 talks about working voltages for determining Creepage Distances with no apparent distinction between Primary and/or Secondary circuits. The clause lists three bullets, with the third bullet

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-13 Thread Hughes, Richard [HAL02:0S22:EXCH]
: kaan_greger...@mtn.3com.com [SMTP:kaan_greger...@mtn.3com.com] Sent: 13 October 1998 17:50 To: EMC-PSTC Subject:Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design Hello, Its me again, with another two cents (Hey! maybe this one is worth a nickel

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-12 Thread Mel Pedersen
Pedersen; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; 'Diaco Davari' Subject:Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design Mel, I notice you mentioned that European labs are using a working voltage of 150 Vdc which requires 1.6 mm creepage. I have assumed they were using 125 Vdc which requires only 1.5 mm

Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-12 Thread JPR3
In a message dated 98-10-12, Mel Pederson writes: If one considers the worst case (DC) voltages that could possibly exist on TNV-3 lines and also SELV circuits, and considers the likelihood that these are at opposite polarity, one would obtain a worst case 180VDC = -120VDC (TNV-3) - 60VDC

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-12 Thread Mel Pedersen
: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design This is my understanding of the situation Barry. If one considers the worst case (DC) voltages that could possibly exist on TNV-3 lines and also SELV circuits, and considers the likelihood that these are at opposite polarity, one would obtain a worst case

Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-10 Thread Barry Esmore
: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design Date: Friday, 9 October 1998 11:51 I believe that your experts are wrong...4.2 is a rather odd number to come up with. The most common requirement here is SUPPLEMENTARY INSULATION for a PRIMARY CIRCUIT at 250Vrms (as defined by EN 60950) between the TIP

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-09 Thread Mel Pedersen
:Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design Hello Folks, Does anyone know what the crepage distance shall be across the isolation from the line side to modem side within the DAA of Modems? Which document/standard refers to this specific spacing in detail ? I have been told by local experts

Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-09 Thread Rich Nute
Hello Diaco: My reading of Clause 6 of IEC 950/EN 60950 is: between TNV circuit and primary circuit: double or reinforced insulation, including applicable creepage distance and clearance, or basic insulation and a grounded conductive barrier, including

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-09 Thread Lesmeister, Glenn
8:54 PM To: dav...@pmc.philips.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design Hello Diaco: My reading of Clause 6 of IEC 950/EN 60950 is: between TNV circuit and primary circuit

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-09 Thread Mel Pedersen
[SMTP:glenn.lesmeis...@compaq.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 12:14 AM To: 'Rich Nute'; dav...@pmc.philips.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design In most cases, Norway, Sweden and Finland? require supplementary insulation for a primary

Re: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-09 Thread Peter Merguerian
modem is. Best Regards, Date sent: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:29:28 -0700 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org From: Diaco Davari dav...@pmc.philips.com Subject:Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design Send reply to: Diaco Davari

Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-08 Thread Diaco Davari
Hello Folks, Does anyone know what the crepage distance shall be across the isolation from the line side to modem side within the DAA of Modems? Which document/standard refers to this specific spacing in detail ? I have been told by local experts on EN60950 that I need 4.2 mm spacing across